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TontoCorazon posted:What the gently caress is fallout 4? Trees made of androids, or androids made of trees. It's all very up in the air at this point.
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Trees? What trees?
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Sep 18, 2015 08:04
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The ones mimicking sentient life, obviously.
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Sep 18, 2015 08:06
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The Hist were first.
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Sep 18, 2015 10:25
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I think that Todd Howard makes good video games, and he seems like a nice man.
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Sep 18, 2015 13:11
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Hey guys. I'm playing Mad Max currently and it's the best fallout game ever.
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TontoCorazon posted:What the gently caress is fallout 4? "Since we last talked, this game has gone through.... So many permutations. First, we reimagined the whole thing as an interactive social-media experience. Then we realized it was actually more of a floating art installation, but that didn't feel right either. We thought.... is it a high-end perfume? A series of interrelated fortune cookies? A hat that if you turn it upside down, it's a boat? --No, Fallout 4 is none of those things. Fallout 4 is a bimonthly curated box of snacks." -Todd Howard, September 17, 2015
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Sep 18, 2015 16:25
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I am totally for fallout merchandising. It's the one series I've been very disappointed there wasn't poo poo everywhere that I could buy. For too long you've had to get every collectors edition or promotional thing everywhere to actually have anything for your shelf. Then you stare at ebay and sigh at the astronomical prices because of course you weren't at some UK press release to get whatever vault-tec viewfinder with 3D fallout slides. I'm both annoyed that Guy Fieri is being considered for writing a cookbook, but also amused. He's actually the perfect person to come up with a bunch of recipes for microwave radiation blasted inedible depression. If he doesn't accidentally cook with cockroach or rat meat from time to time, I donno who does. Mordaedil posted:I think it was some guy on reddit or something that made it, the developers got linked and thought it was a neat idea and decided to contact the Monopoly guys and are making it a reality. Naw I was looking at their store page. I'm sure whatever reddit version you're talking about looked better.
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Sep 18, 2015 16:42
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are some of you guys actually mad at the merchandise or but yea they totally missed an opportunity wrt bottle caps for monopoly money
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Sep 18, 2015 17:21
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Cheap Shot posted:I am totally for fallout merchandising. It's the one series I've been very disappointed there wasn't poo poo everywhere that I could buy. For too long you've had to get every collectors edition or promotional thing everywhere to actually have anything for your shelf. Then you stare at ebay and sigh at the astronomical prices because of course you weren't at some UK press release to get whatever vault-tec viewfinder with 3D fallout slides. Wait, my joke about a cannibal Guy Fieri is actually coming partially true? WAS TODD HOWARD ACTUALLY CREME-OF-PLENTY THIS WHOLE TIME?!
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Eonwe posted:are some of you guys actually mad at the merchandise or Seems like everyone so far has been happy they're going to merch it up. But they printed caps on the paper money. Uggh. Not even NCR Bux or anything. 
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Sep 18, 2015 19:37
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marktheando posted:I think that Todd Howard makes good video games, and he seems like a nice man. Going to have to agree with this
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Sep 18, 2015 19:38
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Cheap Shot posted:Seems like everyone so far has been happy they're going to merch it up. Yeah that's dumb af. If it was either caps or NCR money I'd buy it just to have those but uhh caps on paper money? marktheando posted:I think that Todd Howard makes good video games, and he seems like a nice man. Yeah he legit tries hard to make something good I think. Watching the making of videos for these games is cool because you're like 'hey actually they're putting a lot of thought into what they're doing and they're trying hard, it's just that these games have so many moving parts you can't expect perfection or to have the same opinions on everything.'
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Sep 18, 2015 19:42
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Many retards argue that bethesda is dumbing down each iteration of the game but I argue they aren't
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Sep 18, 2015 19:45
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TontoCorazon posted:What the gently caress is fallout 4? It's a mod for "Shower With Your Dad Simulator."
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Sep 18, 2015 21:04
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THE PENETRATOR posted:Many retards argue that bethesda is dumbing down each iteration of the game but I argue they aren't I agree. Yeah there isn't a piece for individual gloves/pauldrons/boots whatever like in Morrowind but on the other hand tons of other systems have been improved and made deeper. I'd much rather have Skyrim's combat than be able to have two different gloves on at the same time.
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Sep 18, 2015 21:45
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As soon as you can mod out John Fallout's voice, all the new characters, and the entire story, Fallout 4 will own insanely hard
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Sep 18, 2015 22:29
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Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:As soon as you can mod out John Fallout's voice, all the new characters, and the entire story, Fallout 4 will own insanely hard After listening to the interview with Brian T. Delaney (male character voice) I honestly am sad so many people are against the voice acting. This is his break out gig and he's a totally rad dude. You could tell he was super passionate about his role in the making of the game. I would have liked to have heard Courtenay Taylor, but unfortunately in her interview they sent some boring head of so and so to talk over her. I just wanted to skip through it to hear what she had to say but it wasn't worth sitting through the sausage fest.
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Sep 19, 2015 01:28
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So who was the first to post "John Fallout" and why does everyone think they're being clever when they do too?
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Sep 19, 2015 01:45
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Cheap Shot posted:After listening to the interview with Brian T. Delaney (male character voice) I honestly am sad so many people are against the voice acting. To be fair the people against it are the minority, so really it's fine for the dude. Like I mean especially the sort of people that would hire him in the future aren't likely to give a poo poo about some rando's argument that voice acting makes it harder for them to imagine their own character or something.
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Sep 19, 2015 01:49
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Why do you think everybody thinks they're being clever when they do so? Are you un-american?!
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:So who was the first to post "John Fallout" and why does everyone think they're being clever when they do too? I can tell you're the person that others groan about when they hear you were invited somewhere
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:So who was the first to post "John Fallout" and why does everyone think they're being clever when they do too? Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:I can't wait to loot a series of fallen raiders and hear John Fallout insanely badassily say "I can--" "I can--" "I can--" "I can--" "I can use--" "I--" "I can use this..." Jane Fallout apparently came first, though.
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Boogaleeboo posted:To be fair the people against it are the minority, so really it's fine for the dude. Like I mean especially the sort of people that would hire him in the future aren't likely to give a poo poo about some rando's argument that voice acting makes it harder for them to imagine their own character or something. I meant more a shame that those people wont enjoy his work because of something something character immersion, more than any kind of worry for the future of his career. He'll def go places after this for sure.
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Sep 19, 2015 02:41
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wait people are still falling for this scam?
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Sep 19, 2015 02:51
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Let me post a somewhat extreme picture about my personal main worry on voice acted protag
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i can see that. But to be fair, but the bad example is bioware when they started trying to write everything like joss wheadon. i doubt bethesda will go down that route.
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GuyUpNorth posted:Let me post a somewhat extreme picture about my personal main worry on voice acted protag So we went from an endless e-book to a snappy interactive movie (Sega-CD/3DO style). I know which one I'd invite into my home. I just hope Fallout 4 got Christopher Walken.
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Moridin920 posted:I agree. Yeah there isn't a piece for individual gloves/pauldrons/boots whatever like in Morrowind but on the other hand tons of other systems have been improved and made deeper. On the plus side of armor things, in FO4 they stated that armor customization goes as deep as individual pauldrons / etc ut idk if that's just power armor
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i can see that. But to be fair, but the bad example is bioware when they started trying to write everything like joss wheadon. i doubt bethesda will go down that route. I think he mainly meant there there is inevitably a loss in the breadth your character is able to communicate when every line has to be recorded. If the writing is good enough I don't think it matters too much, but Bethesda leaves a lot to be desired.
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popewiles posted:I think he mainly meant there there is inevitably a loss in the breadth your character is able to communicate when every line has to be recorded. If the writing is good enough I don't think it matters too much, but Bethesda leaves a lot to be desired. On the flip side every conversation doesn't take an hour as you attempt to exhaust every possible thread of nested conversation, like some sort of endless matryoshka doll made of talking
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THE PENETRATOR posted:On the plus side of armor things, in FO4 they stated that armor customization goes as deep as individual pauldrons / etc ut idk if that's just power armor Unless they allow layers I doubt every single piece of armor will be customizable. They DID show the status screen, each VATS segment with separate armor slots, but unless you can, say, equip a lab coat over your chest and armored chaps over your VAULT-TEC issue spandex pants (seriously, the vault suit looks sprayed on in the previews) I'm not sure exactly how much the different armor ratings over each limb will matter.
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icantfindaname posted:so both the playerbase and the developers are retarded, autistic nerds who are scared and confused by anything other than the same lovely boring environment they've been seeing for the last 17 years. you're really selling me on this game I hope there's at least one area in the game that's just a crazy vibrant tropical jungle for some reason and the only quest there is to either burn it down because the people living outside of it are afraid of the change in environment, or use magical radiation to make it grow faster, because the people living inside of it think the people outside of it are dumb and should have the same environment as them.
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Strudel Man posted:Jane Fallout apparently came first, though. lol I'm freakin cool
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THE PENETRATOR posted:On the plus side of armor things, in FO4 they stated that armor customization goes as deep as individual pauldrons / etc ut idk if that's just power armor So like the Taylor Maid mod? Sounds good if true.
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Moridin920 posted:I agree. Yeah there isn't a piece for individual gloves/pauldrons/boots whatever like in Morrowind but on the other hand tons of other systems have been improved and made deeper. Ftfy. All Skyrim did was add finishers to Oblivion's weightless hp sponge combat. Which is hilariously not an improvement because all Oblivion did was change Morrowind combat from being rng based for a few levels, then solid high damage fights to being consistent but low damage fights all game. So yeah, you're saying you'd rather have less dress up options because it gave you more tedious combat. Next you're going to tell me you're glad they got rid of the spell button so now if you want to shoot a fireball after slashing a dude you have to pause, change your equiped weapon, watch a stupid ready animation, shoot the fireball, pause, change weapons, unsheethe your sword, then slash another dude. Like yes there's lots of nerd overreacting to changes in TES, but combat is something Beth is loving awful at, and at best keeps making it just as bad as previous games, if not worse. Which is why Fallout 3 ruled, because combat was fun. But we'll have to wait and see if slowmo Vats is an improvement or not. Personally, I'd rather more time be spent giving me more options to look pretty. And I especially hope they got the armor designers from NV on this because FO3 had some terrible designs and NV had some super cool ones.
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GuyUpNorth posted:Let me post a somewhat extreme picture about my personal main worry on voice acted protag PST is the one game everybody cites as a proof of old games being much deeper, and it still isn't very good as a work of fiction, interactive or not. At least by embracing a more cinematic and conventionally paced approach, RPGs have found a media form they can more comfortably inhabit.
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popewiles posted:I think he mainly meant there there is inevitably a loss in the breadth your character is able to communicate when every line has to be recorded. If the writing is good enough I don't think it matters too much, but Bethesda leaves a lot to be desired. Reducing breadth is actually likely to improve a game's story. In a hypothetical scenario, typing/speaking out what you wanted your PC to say and then having the computer interpret the results would be Very Bad even if the translation software worked perfectly.
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Are people still whining about voiced protagonists, jesus loving christ.THE PENETRATOR posted:On the plus side of armor things, in FO4 they stated that armor customization goes as deep as individual pauldrons / etc ut idk if that's just power armor Nah it's other armour types too. 
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