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Why even bother trying to understand an ideology if you have to read about it, am I right guys?
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What do you mean I need to read the book before writing a book report *faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart*
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Sep 15, 2015 18:07
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asdf32 posted:Oh so you didn't read my book or study all my definitions. Let me link a quick 42 page read that explains it all. Hey guys I'm just joking around, about people who aren't me.
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Sep 15, 2015 18:07
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Muscle Tracer posted:fishmech is more correct (and posts some a+ content when you don't disagree with him) whereas asdf would be in the ultrabland megaboring zone of "not even wrong" if he was even a little consistent Yeah fish mechs problem is he is pedantic as all gently caress, but at least he is correct more often than not.
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Sep 15, 2015 18:11
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CharlestheHammer posted:Yeah fish mechs problem is he is pedantic as all gently caress, but at least he is correct more often than not. Is fish mech guy this "nintendo kid" who posts really pedantic arguments in every single thread in every single sub-forum on all of SA and is the god-expert on every subject imaginable and is really sick and tired of people being wrong on the internet to the point that he'll spend hours misinterpreting what you said in a way that lets him be correcting you on some point you may not have been even making?
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Sep 15, 2015 22:53
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Baronjutter posted:Is fish mech guy this "nintendo kid" who posts really pedantic arguments in every single thread in every single sub-forum on all of SA and is the god-expert on every subject imaginable and is really sick and tired of people being wrong on the internet to the point that he'll spend hours misinterpreting what you said in a way that lets him be correcting you on some point you may not have been even making? That's the one. He also occasionally makes humorous jokes, which means he's a better poster than Jrod or asdf.
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Sep 15, 2015 22:57
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He is surprisingly not poo poo when ti comes to archaic first person shooters though.
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Sep 16, 2015 01:10
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Baronjutter posted:Is fish mech guy this "nintendo kid" who posts really pedantic arguments in every single thread in every single sub-forum on all of SA and is the god-expert on every subject imaginable and is really sick and tired of people being wrong on the internet to the point that he'll spend hours misinterpreting what you said in a way that lets him be correcting you on some point you may not have been even making? Yeah, and it's hilarious when he makes some really loving obvious mistake (like suggesting Iraq is near Australia).
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Sep 16, 2015 01:11
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fishmech is real and strong and my friend, please do not besmirch him, here, in this thread
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Sep 16, 2015 01:28
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Literally The Worst posted:fishmech is real and strong and my friend, please do not besmirch him, here, in this thread
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Sep 16, 2015 03:50
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Caros posted:Just going to leave this here so I can get it easily if jrodefeld ever comes back. Here is Stefan molyneux doing an interview with Bell Curve author Charles Murray where the interview not only doesn't involve beating Charles Murray to within an inch of his life but is in fact a discussion about his book in general and how fully 50% of all Sub-Saharan Africans (including their US descendants) have an iq of 70 or less, which would make them mentally retarded. I started watching this but I gave up. YouTube did recommend me another Molyneaux video though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4SS8uyhQnY The Truth About South Africa and Apartheid   We're the Freedom People! Liberate man from the tyranny of the State. Okay, here's your government-defined racial catagory, these soldiers will now show you to the few places you're legally allowed to live. Ah freedom.
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Sep 16, 2015 06:51
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Wow guys it wasn't racism, it was just concern for the survival of the white population. Racists would never think of putting it that way.
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Sep 16, 2015 08:07
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Yeah, and it's hilarious when he makes some really loving obvious mistake (like suggesting Iraq is near Australia). Sometimes wikipedia has an error on it
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Sep 16, 2015 08:59
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If it was in perceived self-defense, what's the harm of apartheid anyway
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Sep 16, 2015 10:12
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Actually if you think about it the blacks did initiate force by existing in areas of economic value and furthermore *posts ten mises.org links*
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Sep 16, 2015 11:36
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:If it was in perceived self-defense, what's the harm of apartheid anyway All the Afrikaaners did was stand their ground.
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Sep 16, 2015 12:23
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VitalSigns posted:I started watching this but I gave up. YouTube did recommend me another Molyneaux video though friends, apartheid isn't *racism*, it's just a comprehensive social apparatus that exists to subjugate one ethnically-distinct group beneath another!
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Sep 16, 2015 12:39
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Cerebral Bore posted:Actually if you think about it the blacks did initiate force by existing in areas of economic value and furthermore *posts ten mises.org links* Having something I want is initiating force against me and I am well within my rights to defend myself and remove the threatening situation.
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Sep 16, 2015 14:48
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VitalSigns posted:I started watching this but I gave up. YouTube did recommend me another Molyneaux video though I saw that one when I looked at his page but to be perfectly honest my brain just said "NOPE". I can handle Charles Murray because Im desensitized, but anyone defending apartheid in ttyol 2015 makes me feel like my brain is gonna leak out my ears.
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Sep 16, 2015 16:24
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VitalSigns posted:I started watching this but I gave up. YouTube did recommend me another Molyneaux video though I'm watching the video, and I don't understand where this guy's cult appeal comes from. I had heard somewhere that he was a reasonably charismatic an-cap guru, or something like that. This is just a boring PP presentation by some racist rear end in a top hat.
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Literally The Worst posted:fishmech is real and strong and my friend, please do not besmirch him, here, in this thread fischmech was one of 4 people on my ignore list, and is the only one I later changed my mind and took back off. His gimmick is way less tiring than MIGF's.
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Sep 16, 2015 19:48
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:fischmech was one of 4 people on my ignore list, and is the only one I later changed my mind and took back off. His gimmick is way less tiring than MIGF's. Wait, you haven't ignored all of the sincere pro-gamegaters? 
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Sep 16, 2015 19:50
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Jack of Hearts posted:I'm watching the video, and I don't understand where this guy's cult appeal comes from. I had heard somewhere that he was a reasonably charismatic an-cap guru, or something like that. This is just a boring PP presentation by some racist rear end in a top hat. He doesn't have to be charismatic or intelligent. He just tells his supporters what they want to hear.
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Sep 16, 2015 19:55
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Klaus88 posted:Wait, you haven't ignored all of the sincere pro-gamegaters? I have managed to avoid our contingent of alligators. That, or I had ignored them already for one reason or another.
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Sep 16, 2015 19:56
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DarklyDreaming posted:He doesn't have to be charismatic or intelligent. He just tells his supporters what they want to hear. The quirk to molyneux is he is just well spoken enough that he can come off as a voice of authority. He has an acting background and he doesn't use a lot of filler ummm and uhhs as he speaks. This coupled with the fact that he presents a lot of (misleading) data makes him someone you can point to and pretend the he is an intellectual. You pile on the personal cult and it becomes hard to just point out to a would be follower that he is as much a kook as some bearded fifty year old with a barely functional webcam. You are absolutely right however, thst is biggest success is jumping out in front. His misogyny for example, is a recent affectation. Back in 2009 or 2010 you wouldn't see what you see now with blatant attacks on women, but once he realized there was a solid MRA crossover with his existing audience you can drat well bet he jumped on top of that.
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Sep 16, 2015 20:01
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:fischmech was one of 4 people on my ignore list, and is the only one I later changed my mind and took back off. His gimmick is way less tiring than MIGF's. It's not a gimmick, he's just that good
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Sep 16, 2015 20:01
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Literally The Worst posted:It's not a gimmick, he's just that good 
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Sep 16, 2015 20:08
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If somebody paid 30 bucks for , then the free market has determined that fishmech is worth 3 normal posters and that you are wrong and bad. Checkmate statist 
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Sep 16, 2015 20:13
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Jack of Hearts posted:I'm watching the video, and I don't understand where this guy's cult appeal comes from. I had heard somewhere that he was a reasonably charismatic an-cap guru, or something like that. This is just a boring PP presentation by some racist rear end in a top hat. When you're a racist rear end in a top hat (aka libertarian) he is an intellectual orator.
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Sep 16, 2015 20:19
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Jack of Hearts posted:This is just a boring PP presentation by some racist rear end in a top hat. This describes literally all libertarians, so that shouldn't be the least bit surprising.
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Sep 16, 2015 21:33
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It just shows what a sham ancapism is. You would think, out of any policy in the world, the one a libertarian would definitely oppose is the government defining racial categories and then sending MEN WITH GUNS to tell you where you can live and impose themselves on the job creators' precious freedom of contract by dictating whom they can hire, but hahaha nope that all gets selectively defined as "self-defense" and "retaliatory force"
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Sep 17, 2015 00:22
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Klaus88 posted:Wait, you haven't ignored all of the sincere pro-gamegaters? They don't usually have the endurance to last more than a couple posts, so I just skip a couple pages on a thread that gets onto gg arguments.
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Jack of Hearts posted:I'm watching the video, and I don't understand where this guy's cult appeal comes from. I had heard somewhere that he was a reasonably charismatic an-cap guru, or something like that. This is just a boring PP presentation by some racist rear end in a top hat. The first thing you have to realize is that the video portion is just there so he can have something up on YouTube. He's not trying to put together a slick video presentation, he's just using YouTube to distribute podcasts. It's like the Sam Sedar videos people post. The content isn't the video. It's a guy sitting at a desk talking into a microphone. I think the real reason why people find him so charismatic is that he's long winded, and he appeals to the teenage mentality of "everybody else is a sheep." On the long-winded side: there's a group of people out there who fashion themselves as intellectuals. They like to think that they are so much smarter than everybody else, and what's something a smart person can do? Go in depth on a subject matter. For example, I could talk for hours about broadcasting and how all the various things work and still have more to say, where the average person could maybe go five minutes before saying "Well, I just turn on the TV and I get pictures. That's all I care about!" Most of us see them as total buffoons, because often, they don't know the difference between having a lot to say and just saying a lot. Take JRod's posts: nine times out of ten, you could cut out at least 50% of the sentences and get the same amount of information across. The other thing is that they start talking about things that people really don't care about, which also helps hide their ignorance from most people. After all, if you started going into the history of American Slavery, the average person knows it exists and they think it was a bad thing that should not have happened, but most of them don't really care enough to know about the particulars. And amazingly, people like Monyleaux can talk about a lot of things in depth for hours on end. Clearly, he must be a genius! And that ties into "sheeple" point. Ancap is based upon this idea that you have some secret understanding of how the world really works, and everybody is just blind to it. And if they would only open their eyes and see for themselves! So, you have this guy talking about all this esoteric poo poo in depth, playing into your fantasy that you and he really knows what's going on and everybody else is an idiot, and it gets you. After all, we want to belong to something. You can see that from all the AnCaps in this thread. They constantly talk about how we just need to think for ourselves, before plagiarizing Mises.org.
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Cemetry Gator posted:On the long-winded side: there's a group of people out there who fashion themselves as intellectuals. They like to think that they are so much smarter than everybody else, and what's something a smart person can do? Go in depth on a subject matter. For example, I could talk for hours about broadcasting and how all the various things work and still have more to say, where the average person could maybe go five minutes before saying "Well, I just turn on the TV and I get pictures. That's all I care about!" Most of us see them as total buffoons, because often, they don't know the difference between having a lot to say and just saying a lot. Take JRod's posts: nine times out of ten, you could cut out at least 50% of the sentences and get the same amount of information across. The other thing is that they start talking about things that people really don't care about, which also helps hide their ignorance from most people. After all, if you started going into the history of American Slavery, the average person knows it exists and they think it was a bad thing that should not have happened, but most of them don't really care enough to know about the particulars. And amazingly, people like Monyleaux can talk about a lot of things in depth for hours on end. Clearly, he must be a genius! My theory on JRod's absence is that critiquing his writing style got under his skin more than critiquing his ideas ever could.
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VitalSigns posted:It just shows what a sham ancapism is. You would think, out of any policy in the world, the one a libertarian would definitely oppose is the government defining racial categories and then sending MEN WITH GUNS to tell you where you can live and impose themselves on the job creators' precious freedom of contract by dictating whom they can hire, but hahaha nope that all gets selectively defined as "self-defense" and "retaliatory force" Ancaps love this because they like to imagine a post-government world where the men with guns are their employees.
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Nolanar posted:My theory on JRod's absence is that critiquing his writing style got under his skin more than critiquing his ideas ever could. My dream is that he's finally realized the error of his ways and is actually doing something with his life. But it's much more likely that he's died from drinking unpasteurized milk or something 
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Typical Pubbie posted:Ancaps love this because they like to imagine a post-government world where the men with guns are their employees. They never take this to the logical conclusion where the men with guns just kill them and take what they want from the cold dead hands of the Ancaps.
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Nolanar posted:My theory on JRod's absence is that critiquing his writing style got under his skin more than critiquing his ideas ever could. To be honest I think it was mostly because we pointed out how much of a dumbass he was and how his ideas had zero substance. I have never otherwise met somebody that could type so much and say absolutely nothing.
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Muscle Tracer posted:My dream is that he's finally realized the error of his ways and is actually doing something with his life. 
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Klaus88 posted:They never take this to the logical conclusion where the men with guns just kill them and take what they want from the cold dead hands of the Ancaps. Don't be ridiculous Klaus, that would be illegal.
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