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EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Bogmonster posted:

This Is England 90 was pretty enjoyable. Woody's phone call with his mum and dad felt like a lot of calls I've had with my parents. Everyone seems to be having too much of a good time so I'm sure some horrible poo poo will happen as the series goes on. Glad its back though.

I loved the film, and always felt it would've been an enjoyable watch even without the racist angle. It had a great feel to it, and the characters were good enough. The plot just added to it and it was an excellent watch.

But the first TV series left me a bit sour. It's been years now so I can't remember the specifics (and I even remember writing really positive things about the first few episodes), but I think it bugged me that horrible things constantly followed this group of people everywhere they went, the shoe horning of characters from the film into pointless roles (one of the racists now pals around with the main cast, which was weird), and a few things that made it feel like he didn't get the structuring of a TV show as well as a movie.

Did future seasons do anything to make me enjoy it fully again? I kinda just wanted a show about Woody and pals with a really well crafted 80s feel. It didn't need to be all jokes, but it was just so dark and it was cut really uncomfortably between the two.

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The Big Taff Man
Nov 22, 2005


Official Manchester United Posting Partner 2015/16
Fan of Britches
You wrote positive things about the first few episodes? There were only 4.

Without spoilers 88 is pretty much dealing with the fallout from 86 and Shauns relationship, but the dynamic of Woody and his parents, or Woody and his boss is brilliant.

I dont know what to say if you didnt think it worked as well as a tv show, I thought it worked much better as it allowed him to tell a broader story

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

The Big Taff Man posted:

I ended up rewatching it, I'm so in love with Joe Gilgun. Plz give Woody and Lol a happy ending

Like gadget right Leeds dad?

I really hope Woody and Lol get a happy ending. They're just so good together.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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The Big Taff Man posted:

You wrote positive things about the first few episodes? There were only 4.

Yeah, the beginning of the rape stuff mainly came at the end of episode 3 yeah? I remember it was only really the last episode that soured me against the whole thing.

Maybe I'll give 88 a shot now I don't have expectations and I might get into it a bit more.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
I like Tamal he's pretty good.

e: lol that look from Nadia

XMNN fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Sep 16, 2015

CherryCat
Feb 21, 2011

That's a strawberry.

College Slice
Does anyone actually like Ian?

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

XMNN posted:

I like Tamal he's pretty good.

e: lol that look from Nadia

Tamal will probably win even though I like Flora (probably because she emails in to Wittertainment with Kermode and Simon Mayo). I love Nadia's expressions more and more every week.

Irisi
Feb 18, 2009

WeAreTheRomans posted:

Tamal will probably win even though I like Flora (probably because she emails in to Wittertainment with Kermode and Simon Mayo). I love Nadia's expressions more and more every week.

Her look of googly-eyed horror when poor Mat decided to put his icing sugar sculptures in the oven had me in fits.

I like Tamal though, he's a pet, so cheerful and optimistic. Totally deserved Star Baker this week too.

Captain Mediocre
Oct 14, 2005

Saving lives and money!

Incoming privatisation of the BBC

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Ah yes, because the privatise-out & contract-back-in has been such a winning formula for so many industries.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
Works out great for some people.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Catching up on Hunted.

Good god Emily is bloody deranged.
"oh no facial recognition cameras"
"oh no they'll have spies on the bus"
*rings home*
*rings home again*

Jesus wept. She was safe. Untraceable. They had no way to find her. And she loving torpedos herself.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
Peter Kay and that accent in Cradel To Grave :allears:.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Strom Cuzewon posted:

Catching up on Hunted.

Good god Emily is bloody deranged.
"oh no facial recognition cameras"
"oh no they'll have spies on the bus"
*rings home*
*rings home again*

Jesus wept. She was safe. Untraceable. They had no way to find her. And she loving torpedos herself.

I've not stated watching this because the ads sounded way more dramatic for my liking.

What are the rules around going on the run? Like are you basically to just be unfindable for a week/month? Are they getting time off work to take part in this? Do they get any kind of head start?

It's just that it seems like it would be really easy to just take a bunch of cash out of the cash machine, grab some supplies and camping gear and just go out in some hills somewhere/campgrounds somewhere.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Kin posted:

I've not stated watching this because the ads sounded way more dramatic for my liking.

What are the rules around going on the run? Like are you basically to just be unfindable for a week/month? Are they getting time off work to take part in this? Do they get any kind of head start?

It's just that it seems like it would be really easy to just take a bunch of cash out of the cash machine, grab some supplies and camping gear and just go out in some hills somewhere/campgrounds somewhere.

They can't use their own bank accounts, they're given one with 450 quid at the start. They're given about two weeks notice that they've been accepted onto the programme, and then an hour's head start.

All of them start well, grab some cash, get out really fast. And then do really loving stupid stuff

So far we've had:

Two Sikh brothers who set a false trail by leaving behind a mobile phone with an obvious "let's go here, they'll never think of that" email on it, resulting in the professionals tailing some asian backpackers. They got passed around friend-of-a-friend a half dozen times, then one of them keeps calling his fiance (:qq: "but i used a burner!" :qq:) and they end up trapped in the back room of a corner shop, watching the fuzz strongarming their way in on the CCTV.

Rosemary and Thyme who vanish completely into the bus network, are completely invisible for ages, then both get out cash at the same time and almost immediately get jumped

A young mum, perpetually paranoid and ducking down to avoid "siemans facial recognition cameras" who hitchhikes, again, invisibly, for ages. Then keeps calling to check up on her son, and narrowly avoids being grabbed

A doctor, obsessed with crime novels, who didn't even clear "average penis length" from his search history, and is generally too drat clever for his own good: he starts well, getting a clapped out car, no questions asked, from a dodgy car dealer and sneaks up to scotland. For some unknown reason he then gives a mate his credit card, and gets her to withdraw cash and send it to him. He then sets a trap by directing the detectives to a house in the middle of nowhere, while he secretly watches them from the forest, presumably while masturbating.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Strom Cuzewon posted:

Rosemary and Thyme who vanish completely into the bus network, are completely invisible for ages, then both get out cash at the same time and almost immediately get jumped


This was my thought too. Withdraw all the cash you can, then get to the nearest decently-sized city, and just hop between public transport. Constantly on the move, cash only, no other details involved. and transport stations are the only places left you can reliably find payphones. Only problem is all the CCTV.

aga.
Sep 1, 2008

Hunted's pretty good. They keep doing stupid things even though they know (or have been told forcefully) that they're stupid. It's a shame they can't split up though, that one woman should have ditched the facial recognition paranoid idiot who scuppered them.

Surely they could just get a pile of new sims from a pound shop and avoid being tracked on the burners (which they are failing to burn) by using a new one every time?

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
They should try not phoning people for a week.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

^^^^^ paranoid woman is the contestant, the other girl is just along for the ride.

The reason the burners are scuppering them is because they're only thinking about one end of the call. Their loved ones phones are all being monitored, so if they get a call from a number the police can't identify, it's blatantly the burner. It's the wife and kids who need the burners too.

I've no Idea if it's as easy as they make it out to be. Or how the show is navigating the legal minefield of monitoring the phones of non-suspected criminals.



Hijo Del Helmsley posted:

This was my thought too. Withdraw all the cash you can, then get to the nearest decently-sized city, and just hop between public transport. Constantly on the move, cash only, no other details involved. and transport stations are the only places left you can reliably find payphones. Only problem is all the CCTV.

Most CCTV in the country is privately owned, and I don't think the public cameras are really networked in a way that would make it even remotely practical to find someone with them. They're very much for after the fact identification, when you know when and where you want to look.

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

I haven't watched the show, but is there any reason why they couldn't Burkha up?

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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They should hide coded messages in emails that look like they're selling viagra.

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

EL BROMANCE posted:

They should hide coded messages in emails that look like they're selling viagra.

That's harder than you'd think.

aga.
Sep 1, 2008

Strom Cuzewon posted:

It's the wife and kids who need the burners too.

The wives helpfully give up all information and passwords on request to the hunters so I'm not sure how effective that would be.

Crankit
Feb 7, 2011

HE WATCHES
They'd be better off recording an audio casette, or whatever the more modern equivalent is and posting that back to their family. I was wondering how the whole phone tracking, credit card tracking and CCTV worked though. I'm pretty sure the police don't hand out access to ANPR, and banks don't give CC use info to anyone, so does the cameraman who follows them about just text back "used atm in walthamstow"?

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

I think
your hair
looks much
better
pushed
over to
one side

Angrymog posted:

I haven't watched the show, but is there any reason why they couldn't Burkha up?
No, they can disguise themselves if they want to. One girl had a poo poo wig, for example. Regarding the phone calls, they should just stop being pathetic and accept that they can't make any calls. At maximum they're only gone for a month, just suck it up and stay off the grid ffs

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

Well deserved star baker this week, and glad to see that Victorian week wasn't too gimmicky.

stickyfngrdboy
Oct 21, 2010
Anyone watch 6° of separation? Panel show (yawn) with Brian Cox hosting. Ben Miller and Hugh Dennis captain teams of scientists. It's not very funny, only lightly entertaining, and not really interesting.

I like Brian Cox but he's not ideal in this role. The host should be an idiot who is amazed by everything sciencey, no matter how banal.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!
Is Dragon's Den over? It ended with a "next week on" but hasn't been on since!

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Crankit posted:

They'd be better off recording an audio casette, or whatever the more modern equivalent is and posting that back to their family. I was wondering how the whole phone tracking, credit card tracking and CCTV worked though. I'm pretty sure the police don't hand out access to ANPR, and banks don't give CC use info to anyone, so does the cameraman who follows them about just text back "used atm in walthamstow"?

Im pretty sure this is exactly how it works - they seem to have decided what would be used in a real situation, and 'triggering' based on that.

The CCTV part is a bit off though - CCTV really isn't networked to a central hub (unless you're watching person of interest), they're often just tapes in a back room which is overwritten monthly.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Well, Black Mirror might be scoring a second point after google glass if this turns out to be true: http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/606695/David-Cameron-dead-pig-private-part-Oxford-University-student-Prime-Minister

Story is a bit heavy on 'anonymous MP' at the minute however.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
Well, he did always say he had a normal university experience. Be honest, who here hasn't placed their todger in a severed head as part of a hazing ritual?

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich
In my day the severing came after I did, though

Mr Beens
Dec 2, 2006

WeAreTheRomans posted:

In my day the severing came after I did, though

Meh. In my day the severing was done while I was doing it.

LampkinsMateSteve
Jan 1, 2005

I've really fucked it. Have I fucked it?
:nws: probably

http://www.b3ta.com/challenge/DavidCameronPigGenitals/popular/

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S75JTR_v58I

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Taear posted:

Is Dragon's Den over? It ended with a "next week on" but hasn't been on since!

I never know when it's on, either. I've missed whole series because the BBC just doesn't advertise it. I'm also not keen on the changes they've made to the show. I find the incessant music throughout the negotiations really grating and I don't rate the three newcomers. I really miss Theo the Foetus :(

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

I think
your hair
looks much
better
pushed
over to
one side
It finished a few weeks ago. I still like it, but I loving hate Touker Suleyman. He comes across like a complete idiot every time and is simultaneously the smuggest one on there. I used to not like Deborah Meaden but somehow she now seems to be the best one

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

#baeofpigs and not one of the comedy news shows are on air :(

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:

Angrymog posted:

#baeofpigs and not one of the comedy news shows are on air :(

I doubt the BBC ones will say much, 8 out of 10 cats would if that's airing still.

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Flatscan
Mar 27, 2001

Outlaw Journalist

Angrymog posted:

#baeofpigs and not one of the comedy news shows are on air :(

Have I Got News For You starts next week. They'll say something, if only to take the piss out of Hislop.

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