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Aumanor
Nov 9, 2012

Danaru posted:



Another double update!



:siren:Let's Play Metal Gear Ghost Babel Episode 7 - Flamethrower Raven:siren:

Wherein I hit 0% approval rating in less than sixty seconds.



:siren:Let's Play Metal Gear Solid 2 Episode 15 - Dan Fights A Bunch Of Giant loving Robots:siren:

This episode actually went over an hour because I fell into cutscene zone as if it was a wide open easily avoidable pit trap, so I ended up cutting it in half. Episode 16 I'm pretty sure is 100% cutscene :v:

You missed at least two intances of "Patriots" in the cutscene prior to the RAY fight, Dan.

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CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

SSNeoman posted:

What's funny is that if they could legitimately mass produce a usable version of RAY it would legitimately be better than REX or Arsenal. Why bother having one invincible weapon when you could just have a swarm of really good ones? As far as I know most modern military tactics rely on having more numbers than the other guy.

As the future of the MGS universe shows, that wouldn't really work out too well considering soon there will be super-cyborgs who can cut through them like butter. I find that very interesting, actually- that the MGS world, in its later years, turned the focus from improving on technology controlled by humans to improving the human beings themselves -but we'll get to that when we get to it I guess. Provided Dan doesn't fuckin' kill himself via alcohol poisoning during MGS3 or something.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
And here during GB you see the point where the novelty of Circleman's delayed navigation wore off of me (as well as my hydrocodone) and I said gently caress it and pulled out a map myself. Though as we'll see, I'm not always the best navigator.


Also, I agree that the Ray fight is one of the coolest things in the entire game and I love it. I really thought there'd be more for the "normal" class fight. You got like, 10. Also, anyone else think the initial series that fight you's names looking like "ROSE" on screen was meant as a mind gently caress?

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Choco1980 posted:

And here during GB you see the point where the novelty of Circleman's delayed navigation wore off of me (as well as my hydrocodone) and I said gently caress it and pulled out a map myself. Though as we'll see, I'm not always the best navigator.

In fairness I should have gone for a map as soon as the whole "plant C4 on certain pillars" thing came up in the walkthrough, rather than try to follow written directions.

In more fairness, without me Dan would still have been in the box maze.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??


This was basically me from episode 6 of ghost babel onward, except with more hitting myself with the nikita on purpose.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Mikl posted:

What Dan said about knives is 100% true. When I did karate my teacher (5th dan black belt) explicitly told us: "If you get mugged and all the guy wants is your wallet, loving give it to them. Happened to me a handful of times. If I do everything right 99,9% of the time I can have the guy on his rear end with a broken arm no problem, but 0,1% he moves in a weird way or I stumble or something and I get stabbed and die, and that one in a thousand chance is not worth the maybe fifty bucks I have in my wallet."

You just need to learn about Surviving Edged Weapons

The whole movie is here and there's a lot of weird stuff in it that's not in the short recap, but I should warn everyone that there are also some graphic photos of stab wounds and dead people, since it is a police training video. The first link is fine if you're okay with bad special effect violence

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

Skwirl posted:

You just need to learn about Surviving Edged Weapons

The whole movie is here and there's a lot of weird stuff in it that's not in the short recap, but I should warn everyone that there are also some graphic photos of stab wounds and dead people, since it is a police training video. The first link is fine if you're okay with bad special effect violence

Oh man, we actually watched this video in Policing, there's a part where the narrator talks while the guy in the black shirt stabs wildly at nothing for like two straight minutes, and it was the funniest poo poo. Then he brought up how a criminal can cover 21 feet in the time it takes to unholster, unsafety, aim, and fire your gun. That was a lot less funny.

Fun fact, I'm actually legally allowed to own a handgun, but that poo poo's expensive and the closest firing range is two hours away. :effort: I also had the second best accuracy in the class, beaten only by my childhood friend who had military training. Double-action revolvers are supremely my poo poo, gently caress the single action. Sorry Ocelot, I don't trust any gun where the 'safety' can accidentally fire the weapon and do the exact loving opposite of what the safety is there for.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Danaru posted:

Oh man, we actually watched this video in Policing, there's a part where the narrator talks while the guy in the black shirt stabs wildly at nothing for like two straight minutes, and it was the funniest poo poo. Then he brought up how a criminal can cover 21 feet in the time it takes to unholster, unsafety, aim, and fire your gun. That was a lot less funny.

Fun fact, I'm actually legally allowed to own a handgun, but that poo poo's expensive and the closest firing range is two hours away. :effort: I also had the second best accuracy in the class, beaten only by my childhood friend who had military training. Double-action revolvers are supremely my poo poo, gently caress the single action. Sorry Ocelot, I don't trust any gun where the 'safety' can accidentally fire the weapon and do the exact loving opposite of what the safety is there for.

Old west gunfighters would apparently only keep 5 bullets in their six shooter to avoid exactly what you're talking about. So at least you know you'd have an extra bullet in a firefight with Ocelot.

Also, I'm glad to know that you'll "never die in no ghetto."

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Skwirl posted:

Old west gunfighters would apparently only keep 5 bullets in their six shooter to avoid exactly what you're talking about. So at least you know you'd have an extra bullet in a firefight with Ocelot.
You wouldn't, he doesn't know that. See: MGS1.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

anilEhilated posted:

You wouldn't, he doesn't know that. See: MGS1.

In that case, you'd have the advantage from him limping do to a shot foot.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
You're pretty GAAHH

Pyroi
Aug 17, 2013

gay elf noises

Aumanor posted:

You missed at least two intances of "Patriots" in the cutscene prior to the RAY fight, Dan.

Well, you know what that means.

He has to get super drunk and then play POOPS.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Doesn't sound so bad. He can enjoy the cool music. Some of the best tunes in the series, actually.

Aumanor
Nov 9, 2012

NikkolasKing posted:

Doesn't sound so bad. He can enjoy the cool music. Some of the best tunes in the series, actually.

Calling to the Night is probably the second best Metal Gear song.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
So hey, we had a thread stopping problem occur OF NO ONE'S FAULT, but I managed to fix it within ten minutes! I'll just post a transcript of Grace and I on steam so you can get the full picture:

quote:

Danaru: oh also I broke my ps3
Grace: ...what
Danaru: yeah, uh, whoops
Grace: ...how
Danaru: [Friends of mine] offered to lend me theirs though, and I could still upload all the saves to PSN
Grace: ...how did it even though
Danaru: I opened it and vacuumed it but also it's a 9 year old piece of hardware, so it was more brittle than I though
Danaru: t
Grace: ...why on earth did you open and vacuum it
Danaru: HEY
Danaru: YOU KNOW WHAT IM GONNA DO
Danaru: LET'S DOWNLOAD A FILE TO BREAK THE PASSWORD TO THIS RAR OF AN AYUMI HAMASAKI ALBUM
Danaru: OH NO
Danaru: MY COMPUTER DIED
Danaru: WHO COULD
Danaru: WHO COULD HAVE EVEN THOUGH
Grace: YOU OPENED IT AND VACCUUMED IT WHERE DID ANYONE SAY THAT WAS A GOOD IDEa
Danaru: LIKE WHEN DAN SAID "DON'T DO IT" AND I WAS LIKE "IMMA DO" AND THEN BROKE
Danaru: BROKE
Danaru: CHRIS BROKE
Grace: DAN BROKE
Danaru: CHRIS BROKE
Danaru: YOU BROKE EVERYTHING
Grace: NO
Danaru: NO
Grace: YOU BROKE IT
Danaru: GET
Danaru: NOPE
Grace: YOU BROKE PS3
Danaru: GET
Grace: DAN BROKE
Danaru: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL2D3DnDyCY
Danaru: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHkgoHPlgVE
Grace: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHkgoHPlgVE

Welcome to a peek at pretty much every conversation we've ever had.

Spoilers: If you ever need to distract either of us for any reason, Red Pandas.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
I'm just imagining you, kneeling and weeping next to a full-size floor vacuum you were just trying to stuff into your PS3. The vacuum is still running.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
I tried to see if on my many backlogged zoo trips with my son I managed to get a good red panda shot. The few shots I have are pretty crummy and barely able to be made out. Otherwise I'd jump in on the Red Panda game. I got tons of giraffe pictures though. Giraffes are awesome.

ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012

I made the hat by transforming my zen

MGS2 has so much 'shut up NERD Raiden' it's great

Danaru are you even going to play ACID?

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

ZenVulgarity posted:

MGS2 has so much 'shut up NERD Raiden' it's great

Danaru are you even going to play ACID?

At some point, yep :v:






:siren:Let's Play Metal Gear Ghost Babel Episode 8 - A Hind-D?!:siren:

The descent into madness continues!

Heavy Sigh
Nov 13, 2011

They've planted corn everywhere.

Soiled Meat
I still can't believe he fell asleep during that.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??




:siren:Let's Play Metal Gear Solid 2 Episode 16 - A Cruise of Ruse:siren:

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
I love this sequence so much. It's even better if you actually buy into the AI's justification - they aren't a just a product of a society, they're ideals embodied, formed long before, and thus they neatly fit themselves into evolution.
I wonder how many people who played for the first time were actually fooled by them - thinking not that they're talking into another computer but that there really is some kind of alien/mystic thingamajig at the White House.

Oh, and Fortune's SUDDEN PLOT POWERS may be bullshit but boy, is it an amazing scene. Everything from the darkness, glowy bullets, RAY's demonic gaze, Cam Clarke appearing, it all just slides you further down from sanity and into the surreal landscape that's the AI reveal and final battle.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: MGS2's finale is a much better end to the story than MGS4's.

anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Sep 20, 2015

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



anilEhilated posted:

I love this sequence so much. It's even better if you actually buy into the AI's justification - they aren't a just a product of a society, they're ideals embodied, formed long before, and thus they neatly fit themselves into evolution.
I wonder how many people who played for the first time were actually fooled by them - thinking not that they're talking into another computer but that there really is some kind of alien/mystic thingamajig at the White House.

Oh, and Fortune's SUDDEN PLOT POWERS may be bullshit but boy, is it an amazing scene. Everything from the darkness, glowy bullets, RAY's demonic gaze, Cam Clarke appearing, it all just slides you further down from sanity and into the surreal landscape that's the AI reveal and final battle.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: MGS2's finale is a much better end to the story than MGS4's.

I agree with all of this. I absolutely love the Patriots' AI speech at the end here. It's such a huge mishmash of information, some of it legit and some of it complete BS, that it's clearly intended to leave Raiden - and by extension the player - baffled at what to believe. They do say the best lies are told between truths.

Trivia: According to the official MGS2 script included with The Documents of Metal Gear Solid 2, the AI we're talking to is JFK. JD was an MGS4 thing.
Also "Star-Spangled Banner" was supposed to play for some of this.

I think my favorite part will always be:
Raiden: I'll decide for myself what to believe and what to pass on!

Colonel : But is that even your own idea?

Rose: Or something Snake told you?

Colonel: That's the proof of your incompetence, right there.


Sons of Liberty was such a perfect way to end the series but nope. The MGS Fandom can be summed up like this
MGS comes out...
Fans: THIS WAS AMAZING! WE WANT MORE!
MGS2 comes out...
Fans: THIS SUCKS. YOU BETTER FIX THIS KOJIMA!
MGS3 comes out...
Fans: THIS WAS AMAZING WE WANT MORE!
Kojima: Okay here ya go you motherfuckers. I have wanted to stop making these games forever now but if you are going to threaten to kill me and give me tons of cash, I might as well make another game. Sure, there are questions that were never meant to be answered, plot threads that were never meant to be connected, but gently caress it all. The MGS3 support team were the villains all along! You don't even want to know how far I had to reach up my rear end to come up with that one.

Zain
Dec 6, 2009

It's only forever, not long at all
I remember there being a piece about how MGS2 is sort of an avant garde telling of gaming in general or something like that. It's a great game if you look at it in the message it was really trying to convey about gaming or something like that.


Edit: I think it was this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-2YuPGYabw

Oh Fortune has Situs inversus.

Zain fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Sep 20, 2015

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
JFK and JD are the same thing, Kojima just changed the name later since its only referred to as JFK in the original script, everywhere else its referred to as the "Master AI", which is JD up in space :v:

pick-e
Aug 10, 2014
For all the poo poo Ray rightfully gets, I still think it's pretty drat cool looking. Plus it provides the best and most hectic giant robot fight in the series. Though Liquid Dan's sidle maze and nikita navigational skills proved an even bigger spectacle...

Danaru posted:

r.i.p. ps3
9 years old? Wait, were you using an original model all this time? If so yours put up one good fight compared to mine which lasted a year and a half at best. :(

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
Yeah, the Document of Metal Gear Solid 2 is a major time sink but is filled with all sorts of nuggets. Like you start realizing just how much of a military sperg Kojima is right from the start when he starts describing how we're supposed to know a Hind is being used by Gurlukavich simply from the sound the rotors make. Also, apparently Arsenal was supposed to crash into Ellis Island originally, leading to a diatribe about immigration as well as the financial ramifications of it hitting Federal Hall. I really only skimmed the script because good lord is it an info dump. I got it for like 12 bucks. The other features on the disc are a bunch of promotional vids, and a playset for checking out all the game's models to do stuff with, and then five semi-random levels from Substance. If you can beat all of them then started a game of Substance on the same PS2 memory card, you'd start with 100% unlock. The fifth level however was a balls hard sniper-escort mission that I could never beat where Meryl's lying unconscious on a raised staircase across a gap, and soldiers just start streaming into the level from both sides and you have to hold them all off despite the variety of routes they take. Substance significantly increases difficulty over VR Missions, but it also comes up with a ton of really cool innovations worth checking out. I can't wait til we get to it.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??




:siren:Let's Play Metal Gear Ghost Babel Episode 9 - Do Not Taunt Gun Camera:siren:

I want you all to know I beat the Extreme mode Sahelanthropus fight in MGS5 on my third attempt, and I only took ten hits.

There's no reason for me to bring up a really good Metal Gear fight before putting up this episode, none at all.

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!
You're not going to convince us you're actually good at video games, you know :colbert:

White Coke
May 29, 2015

Danaru posted:


I want you all to know I beat the Extreme mode Sahelanthropus fight in MGS5 on my third attempt, and I only took ten hits.


Ten hits? Come back when it's zero. And I bet you didn't use the water gun either...

pick-e
Aug 10, 2014

Mikl posted:

You're not going to convince us you're actually good at video games, you know :colbert:
As one of the rare MGS fans who has no interest in playing MGSV, I have no frame of reference for his claim. When the LP of it rolls around the LP curse will hit and he'll inevitably suck against whatever the "Sahelanthropus" is on Normal mode thus disproving his claim. :v:

Kal-L
Jan 18, 2005

Heh... Spider-man... Web searches... That's funny. I should've trademarked that one. Could've made a mint.
So, want to know the answers to the pop-quiz?:

Kal-L posted:

Also, pop-quiz, Danaru: a pregnant Grace is running at you with a knife. What do you do, hotshot? What do you do!?

Boss answer: Shoot Grace. To spare him the grief.

Kojima answer: Turn off the console and stop drinking.

Danaru answer: Keep drinking until achieving Naked status, then somehow win by pure luck.

I'm eagerly awaiting the MGS3 run, since that's my favorite of the bunch. Also, because it doesn't have the Soliton radar, so we should get to see more of Liquid Dan. :v:

Have you started recording it? Because I have a suggestion: show what happens when you manage to chuck a grenade into a crocodile's open mouth.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
We have up to the end of the Virtuous Mission recorded, scheduling's been a bit rough to record the rest, hopefully we'll have some time before the schedule slips.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??


Double finale!



:siren:Let's Play Metal Gear Ghost Babel Episode 10 - Dan Fights Some Loser In A Giant loving Robot:siren:



:siren:Let's Play Metal Gear Solid 2 Episode 17 - A Reference To uh, American Horror Story:siren:

I refuse to shorten my episode titles :colbert: I'm working out a couple kinks for MGS3's drinking game, but I should have information about it pretty soon!

EDIT: I just noticed that the thumbnail for Ghost Babel is me loading a save state. It's me, I'm the garbage LPer

Danaru fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Sep 23, 2015

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
First off, can I just say the whole Rex-Ray-Jack thing was probably the very best of GW/JD's mindfucks in the game?

Also I love the end cinematic for like these guys in their supersuits and weapons just hanging out in front of Federal Hall and like, nobody even looks their way.


And finally, I'm so excited that Substance is starting. It's sooo much of an improvement over the VR Missions. Here's the point in the LP where Dan starts playing games I haven't seen 100% of the content for.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Can't believe I forgot about GANDER's traffic cone gun drones.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

Choco1980 posted:

First off, can I just say the whole Rex-Ray-Jack thing was probably the very best of GW/JD's mindfucks in the game?

Also I love the end cinematic for like these guys in their supersuits and weapons just hanging out in front of Federal Hall and like, nobody even looks their way.


And finally, I'm so excited that Substance is starting. It's sooo much of an improvement over the VR Missions. Here's the point in the LP where Dan starts playing games I haven't seen 100% of the content for.

We're actually diving right into MGS3 first, since I just kinda wanted to play MGS3, but the Substance VR Missions will happen down the line

gregory
Jun 8, 2013

METAL GEAR!
"Who's the King of Ghost BabelTERRIBLE?!"
--Danaru 2015

What a fantastic playthrough. We have truly reached the pinnacle of LPs.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Danaru posted:

We're actually diving right into MGS3 first, since I just kinda wanted to play MGS3, but the Substance VR Missions will happen down the line

Aw fooey. Nobody ever wants to play Substance...

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Unknown Quantity
Sep 2, 2011

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Steven? Steven?!
STEEEEEEVEEEEEEEN!
Aw man you forgot the best part about Solidus' katanas: they're named Democrat and Republican.

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