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Toshimo posted:This scene always bothered me because the resolution to the God Butcher arc was supposed to be that everyone forgot it. Magic.
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DarkCrawler posted:One of them is actually smart, right? He just likes hanging out with his dumb friends? Thunderball is on an intelligence par with Bruce Banner. Started committing crime to fund his research, got his powers from Wrecker, now he's kinda beholden to him.
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mind the walrus posted:Makes as much sense as the rest. You did not get the joke
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Sep 19, 2015 19:39
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Toshimo posted:This scene always bothered me because the resolution to the God Butcher arc was supposed to be that everyone forgot it. I had that hangup too, but then I saw Thor spit his glass liver shards into an elf sorcerer king's face before punching him out with his lightning fists.
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Sep 19, 2015 20:42
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That is a hard argument to counter, yes.
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Sep 19, 2015 20:48
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Anything that happens in Thor God of Thunder should be judged purely on how loving metal it is, not by how much sense it makes
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Sep 19, 2015 21:01
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Badass Panels: Pretty much just Thor: God of Thunder (this is not a complaint)
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Sep 19, 2015 21:04
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I ended up buying two paper copies of Thor God of Thunder when I realized that not only was every lyric from Raining Blood a panel to the God Butcher story, it gets more metal than that later on.
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The problem with the God Butcher being in-continuity is that I then demand to know where they've been hiding  ALL-BLACK THE NECROSWORD  and why it doesn't have its own monthly title.
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Toshimo posted:The problem with the God Butcher being in-continuity is that I then demand to know where they've been hiding Inside a sun, I think? Doesn't future Thor use it to kill Galactus?
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Sep 20, 2015 00:44
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Not exactly. Thor hid it in a black hole because it was so powerful, pulled it out when he needed a power boost to kill Galactus, but because it was Galactus killing him didn't stick and he came back as Galactus the All-Black, Butcher of Worlds.
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Sep 20, 2015 00:51
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Hoping that shows up in Secret Wars somehow.
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Sep 20, 2015 01:29
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DarkCrawler posted:One of them is actually smart, right? He just likes hanging out with his dumb friends? Yeah, Thunderball is like Matt Damon from Good Will Hunting.
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Sep 20, 2015 12:00
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Hoping that shows up in Secret Wars somehow. Only makes sense that black panther is swinging it around somewhere
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Sep 20, 2015 13:19
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The Question IRL posted:Yeah, Thunderball is like Matt Damon from Good Will Hunting. I always thought it'd suit Piledriver more to have that gimmick. The other 3 have their own gimmicks. Wrecker is the leader and has the crowbar, Bulldozer is Lil' Juggernaut, Thunderball has his ball and chain and...Piledriver has big hands 
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:I always thought it'd suit Piledriver more to have that gimmick. The other 3 have their own gimmicks. Wrecker is the leader and has the crowbar, Bulldozer is Lil' Juggernaut, Thunderball has his ball and chain and...Piledriver has big hands I'm just happy that there is a comic book group where the black guy is the smart one
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Sep 20, 2015 20:39
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DarkCrawler posted:I'm just happy that there is a comic book group where the black guy is the smart one Monica Rambeau, Misty Knight, Steel, Mt. Terrific?
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DarkCrawler posted:One of them is actually smart, right? He just likes hanging out with his dumb friends?   
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Sep 20, 2015 21:54
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Toshimo posted:Monica Rambeau, Misty Knight, Steel, Mt. Terrific? Those are valid examples, although you'd be hardpressed to find a casual comic book fan who knew of any of them besides Steel. And I think the fact that Thunderball is smart (but not falling into the "evil because they're so tortured by their intellect" trope) and still chooses to be a villain is a neat bit of characterization.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:I always thought it'd suit Piledriver more to have that gimmick. The other 3 have their own gimmicks. Wrecker is the leader and has the crowbar, Bulldozer is Lil' Juggernaut, Thunderball has his ball and chain and...Piledriver has big hands Back in the 90's, when he and the Crew lost their weapons. He was able to make himself a tech suit, that simulated his Thunder Ball powers. I think he also upgraded Moon Knight's formerly dead, now a cyborg partner and the leader of the Secret Empire (who was also a secret cyborg).
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:I always thought it'd suit Piledriver more to have that gimmick. The other 3 have their own gimmicks. Wrecker is the leader and has the crowbar, Bulldozer is Lil' Juggernaut, Thunderball has his ball and chain and...Piledriver has big hands Well you know what they say about guys with big hands. They've trouble getting good gloves.
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Travis343 posted:You did not get the joke Yes I did, but don't let that stop the  Rap Record Hoarder posted:Those are valid examples, although you'd be hardpressed to find a casual comic book fan who knew of any of them besides Steel. Even Steel is pretty much persona non grata these days. Sucks, but true. DC decided Cyborg was to take his place in the New 52 and never looked back. quote:And I think the fact that Thunderball is smart (but not falling into the "evil because they're so tortured by their intellect" trope) and still chooses to be a villain is a neat bit of characterization. It is refreshing, which years of comics reading tells me to be terrified that it will be changed for arbitrary reasons into something stupid.
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Sep 21, 2015 06:16
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mind the walrus posted:It is refreshing, which years of comics reading tells me to be terrified that it will be changed for arbitrary reasons into something stupid. It's been the case for at least thirty years. It's probably fine.
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Sep 21, 2015 06:23
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Wanderer posted:It's been the case for at least thirty years. It's probably fine. Bucky was dead, Nick Fury was white, Wolverine was a mutant, and Spider-man was married.
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Revenant Threshold posted:Avengers v.3 78 Suddenly, I'd buy the poo poo out of a Thunderball solo book like this.
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SynthOrange posted:Well you know what they say about guys with big hands. Yeah, high five! 
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Revenant Threshold posted:Avengers v.3 78 Whose the kid and what happened to her?
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The "kid" was actually the mother of those kids. She dies, but because she was British and Brian Braddock had moved onto the king of the Outworld, he shows up and gives her the same choice he was given. The Sword or the Stone. She choses the Sword and becomes the new Captain Britain. She is later renamed to Lionheart, shows up in Claremounts Excalibre run (where she is being mind controlled. 'Natch.) And after that was into obscurity. As for why you never heard of this? This was the Avengers run just before Disassembled so she never got a proper run on Avengers. And yes, those pages were written by Chuck Austin.
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I think that's not actually Thunderball - I think it's Mordred (Morgan le Fay's son) disguised as Thunderball. Something like that, anyway. It was hard to tell because the resolution of that plot was pretty rushed - Austen took up too much space on the subplot with Hawkeye shagging the Wasp and Hank Pym throwing up when he walks in on them.
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The Question IRL posted:
Oh Chris 
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Cabbit posted:Suddenly, I'd buy the poo poo out of a Thunderball solo book like this. Seriously. It's just so refreshing to see any media that obviously respects intelligence rather than paints it as one of the 3 or 4 stereotypes hollywood broadly relies on. Edit: Ha! I just noticed the thread title change! 
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True story: I saw those pages, and thought "Aww hell, it's time for another comic book villian to fall in love with someone and mind-control them into loving them back. Then I stopped, and thought "Maybe I should give them the benefit of the doubt, not every woman in a comic-book has to end up mind-controlled at some point. A few hours later, and this post made me literally laugh out loud. The Question IRL posted:She is later renamed to Lionheart, shows up in Claremounts Excalibre run (where she is being mind controlled. 'Natch.) Never change, comic books. Never change. 
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Toshimo posted:Bucky was dead, Nick Fury was white, Wolverine was a mutant, and Spider-man was married. Wolverine's not a mutant any more?
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prefect posted:Wolverine's not a mutant any more? He was briefly a wolf.
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The Question IRL posted:The "kid" was actually the mother of those kids. Also someone later decided that people who pick the sword are wrong and there's a whole corps of Lionhearts who are all assholes with swords.
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PicklePants posted:
Midnight (2). It happened in an arc of AMS that also included Darkhawk, Punisher, and Night Thrasher (another "smart black guy").
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Endless Mike posted:Also someone later decided that people who pick the sword are wrong and there's a whole corps of Lionhearts who are all assholes with swords. That's so stupid. What the gently caress do you do with a stone?
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Lurdiak posted:That's so stupid. What the gently caress do you do with a stone? Throw it at Batman.
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It's an amulet. The Amulet of Life. It is on a necklace, and so represents the female genitalia and the fertility rites and role of creator of the mother goddess. Unlike the Sword of Might, which is obviously a phallic symbol of the death and destruction embodied in the essential father god. The Captain Britain corps is a tyranny of the matriarchy. Preach the controversy.
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