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Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


Mel Mudkiper posted:

He will get sentenced to 12 years but only get 11

thats pretty good

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Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it

Mel Mudkiper posted:

He will get sentenced to 12 years but only get 11

Goddamn TFF is doing work with the jokes tonight.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer
Stolen from the fan posts in the Why Your Team Sucks: Baltimore article:

Peter King posted:

“Following their first day of training camp – a spirited but cautious foray in helmets and shells – quarterback and Super Bowl XLVII MVP Joe Flacco, dropped his helmet on the grass path to the door, strolled towards the media hub, answered seven harmless questions, chatted with a reporter or two and went inside. Twenty minutes passed. Players signed autographs for screaming kids lined up behind ropes on their way into the building, and soon there was no one left outside but a handful of media packing up gear. And there was Joe’s helmet, resting on the ear fitted with Flacco’s all-important audio speaker linking him to coaches. Most of the quarterbacks I’ve met are cool on the outside and secretly neat-freak perfectionists at heart. I can’t imagine Peyton Manning or Tom Brady standing at a locker and not noticing or caring his helmet was missing. But that’s Joe. Maybe that’s what makes him so pedestrian in the regular season and so drat money in the playoffs; Joe cares when it counts.”

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


Not elite.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Luckily I doubt anyone is reading him anyway, but an ESPN fantasy writer managed to mention Draft Kings 29 times in an article: http://deadspin.com/espns-matthew-berry-sells-credibility-to-draftkings-1731566734

Also he's a paid Draft Kings spokesman.



DRAFT KINGS

midwat
May 6, 2007

Kalli posted:

Luckily I doubt anyone is reading him anyway, but an ESPN fantasy writer managed to mention Draft Kings 29 times in an article: http://deadspin.com/espns-matthew-berry-sells-credibility-to-draftkings-1731566734

Also he's a paid Draft Kings spokesman.



DRAFT KINGS

It's almost embarrassing how quickly the entire sports establishment sold itself to the one-day fantasy people.

SlipUp
Sep 30, 2006


stayin c o o l
Gotta get in on it before congress pulls the plug.

midwat
May 6, 2007

SlipUp posted:

Gotta get in on it before congress pulls the plug.

Not to get all tinfoil-hat-ish, but it seems like too many big companies are making too much money for it to go away completely.

v2vian man
Sep 1, 2007

Only question I
ever thought was hard
was do I like Kirk
or do I like Picard?

Kalli posted:

Luckily I doubt anyone is reading him anyway, but an ESPN fantasy writer managed to mention Draft Kings 29 times in an article: http://deadspin.com/espns-matthew-berry-sells-credibility-to-draftkings-1731566734

Also he's a paid Draft Kings spokesman.



DRAFT KINGS

that seems like it is kind of unethical to me but hey, espn knows what its doing

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
I even found this on tumblr:

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




midwat posted:

Not to get all tinfoil-hat-ish, but it seems like too many big companies are making too much money for it to go away completely.

I'm pretty sure this is the goal for draftkings

TBTF

SlipUp
Sep 30, 2006


stayin c o o l

midwat posted:

Not to get all tinfoil-hat-ish, but it seems like too many big companies are making too much money for it to go away completely.

Draftkings itself hasn't even turned a profit yet. They ain't no Lockheed-Martin.

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012

SlipUp posted:

Draftkings itself hasn't even turned a profit yet. They ain't no Lockheed-Martin.

It's tough making a profit when your just giving million dollars away to average Joe's like me

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

SlipUp posted:

Draftkings itself hasn't even turned a profit yet. They ain't no Lockheed-Martin.

They aren't turning a profit because they're spending so much on advertising and buying smaller one day fantasy companies.

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

I don't see how they thought spending a poo poo load of money to get us all to hate them was a sound marketing plan

Big Ol Marsh Pussy
Jan 7, 2007

It's fun, to gamble.

Febreeze
Oct 24, 2011

I want to care, butt I dont

sweet thursday posted:

I don't see how they thought spending a poo poo load of money to get us all to hate them was a sound marketing plan

Millions of people play the lottery despite miniscule chances of winning. This poo poo operates on almost the same level by giving you slightly more illusion of control over your "ticket" making you think you have a chance.

That, plus football fans are dumb, makes me think the ad campaign is probably working

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


Febreeze posted:

Millions of people play the lottery despite miniscule chances of winning. This poo poo operates on almost the same level by giving you slightly more illusion of control over your "ticket" making you think you have a chance.

That, plus football fans are dumb, makes me think the ad campaign is probably working

But the lottery's marketing is just sort of there, not EVERYWHERE MAKING YOU HATE WATCHING SPORTS

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

sweet thursday posted:

I don't see how they thought spending a poo poo load of money to get us all to hate them was a sound marketing plan

it's working

http://blogs.wsj.com/cmo/2015/09/16/are-draftkings-and-fanduel-bombarding-fans-with-too-many-ads/

quote:

Kate Sirkin, global director of audience and measurement solutions at Publicis-owned Starcom Mediavest Group, said that it is best to limit a brand to two or three spots in a single game. After that, “You’re irritating people and you’re wasting money,” said Ms. Sirkin, who has researched ad wear-out.

DraftKings CEO Jason Robins said that, despite a few negative tweets, the advertising is working well. Since the week leading up to the NFL season, DraftKings began adding hundreds of thousands of new users per day, growing from 3 million users to 4.5 million users, Mr. Robins said. (A FanDuel spokesperson said the run-up to the first weekend of games was the biggest week in the company’s history.)

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

People are stupid. Goddamn it. Goddamn it!

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



While they're undoubtedly growing huge due to football starting, I'd bet anything that the vast, vast majority of those 'users' are throwaway accounts in a small number of actual user's hands.

v2vian man
Sep 1, 2007

Only question I
ever thought was hard
was do I like Kirk
or do I like Picard?

lmao you don't say, the run up to the first week of football games was a huge week for a football betting site. god drat that's groundbreaking

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

We still have to wait for the results from our Football Science Lab, but it's a pretty incredible thing to have your user count jump up so high in such a short time. You see almost no growth from March throughout August, but suddenly in September the curve on the graph grows exponentially. We're cutting a new course here at Draftkings.

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it

computer parts posted:

I even found this on tumblr:



Yahoo owns Tumblr though so that makes sense.

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


sweet thursday posted:

We still have to wait for the results from our Football Science Lab, but it's a pretty incredible thing to have your user count jump up so high in such a short time. You see almost no growth from March throughout August, but suddenly in September the curve on the graph grows exponentially. We're cutting a new course here at Draftkings.

midwat
May 6, 2007

SlipUp posted:

Draftkings itself hasn't even turned a profit yet. They ain't no Lockheed-Martin.

I was thinking partly along the lines of "Disney, Viacom et al probably won't take too kindly to a grandstanding Congressman trying to take down the companies that are buying ALL the ad space."

axeil
Feb 14, 2006
Didn't people say the poker sites were too big to do anything about?

If there's one thing that'll piss off Congress it's companies annoying people and flipping them the bird with respect to the law.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
The Draftkings/FanDuel ads piss me off because I can't even legally play them in my state. STOP BUGGING ME WITH A PRODUCT I LITERALLY CANNOT CONSUME.


E: I'm sure there are workarounds to that if I really wanted to play, but welp I already hate the product because of their billion ads so great job marketing team

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
The best part is the commercials do literally nothing to differentiate between them. I'm dreading football tomorrow for the endless FANKINGS poo poo

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


Spoeank posted:

The best part is the commercials do literally nothing to differentiate between them. I'm dreading football tomorrow for the endless FANKINGS poo poo

They'll merge like Sirius/XM and become FANKING DUEL

Big Ol Marsh Pussy
Jan 7, 2007

Spoeank posted:

The best part is the commercials do literally nothing to differentiate between them. I'm dreading football tomorrow for the endless FANKINGS poo poo

I'm not familiar with the differences between DFS sites but if it's anything like online poker the differences are so minor that it's definitely not worth mentioning in commercials because they would only matter to grinders

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
They actually have discernible differences in game play that any fantasy football player would understand (kicker vs no kicker, flex spot, PPR scoring--DK has two pitchers in baseball). Getting that across in a commercial would be clunky though

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


Until people started pointing it out, I had no idea they were different companies. I think one of them has actors on there that look 50% less basementy than the other sites'.

Ribsauce
Jul 29, 2006

Blacks in the back.
Draftkings and Fanduel made me long for the days of Silverado 1500 commercials and that is quite an accomplishment

Big Ol Marsh Pussy
Jan 7, 2007

All right! Yeah! Come on down to DraftKings! What do we have over the competition? Well, get a load of this: on this site, you can use a kicker

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
At least FanDuel tries to explain how their game works and what makes it different from regular fantasy football. Draftkings just has the same generic actors in a generic sports bar celebrating for no discernible reason. If you switched the logos it could easily pass for a Buffalo Wild Wings commercial.

They're spending so much goddamn money but making no attempt to tell us why they're different and supposedly special. It's giving me flashbacks to the dot-com bubble.

Benne fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Sep 20, 2015

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


whoa whoa whoa back it up there

BBW Doesn't have Giant Checks. That's how you can tell the difference. Giant Checks.

ChickenMedium
Sep 2, 2001
Forum Veteran And Professor Emeritus of Condiment Studies

Benne posted:

They're spending so much goddamn money but making no attempt to tell us why they're different and supposedly special. It's giving me flashbacks to the dot-com bubble.

I am of the opinion that they are spending all that money solely to have the media networks on their side when Congress inevitably moves to shut them down.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

axeil posted:

Didn't people say the poker sites were too big to do anything about?

Poker sites didn't have Disney/ESPN behind them. Or Comcast, NBC Sports, the NBA, half the teams in the NFL, and a poo poo-ton of venture capitalist firms. Meanwhile, casino moguls were actively campaigning against poker sites.

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ought ten
Feb 6, 2004

Mike Florio think Occam rode a scooter

quote:

While no reason has been provided the refusal to comply, Occam’s Razer suggests that the Raiders don’t want to acknowledge a Super Bowl that will be played down the road in Santa Clara, home of the 49ers. At one level, that’s because the two teams don’t get along. At another level, it’s because the 49ers had no interest in sharing their swanky new stadium with the Raiders.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/22/raiders-refuse-to-put-gold-markings-on-field/

It's been like that for a day. Am I missing a joke?

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