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Tao Jones posted:"Pre-Ottoman civilization"? The Romans lasted a whole of a hell lot longer than the Ottomans.
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cheerfullydrab posted:The Romans lasted a whole of a hell lot longer than the Ottomans. Um excuse me the ottoman empire lasted over 600 years and the roman empire barely made it through 500
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cheerfullydrab posted:The Romans lasted a whole of a hell lot longer than the Ottomans. 
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:Um excuse me the ottoman empire lasted over 600 years and the roman empire barely made it through 500 HEY GAL posted:since the second is a subset of the first this statement is trivially true I... can't tell who's trolling me more.
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Sep 18, 2015 13:58
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cheerfullydrab posted:Lots of use of the "B" word on this page. I thought at least some posters called those people by their right name. Bulgars?
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cheerfullydrab posted:Lots of use of the "B" word on this page. I thought at least some posters called those people by their right name. Perfidious Greeks?
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Too much trolling, I'll have to drown my sorrows with some wine from the Lutetian Republic.
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I never heard this before but it's amazing: An example of typical mythology in the Talmud exists as a discussion about a giant deer and a giant lion which are both originated in a mythical forest called "Bei Ilai".[41] The deer is called "keresh", it has one horn,[42][43][44] and its skin measures 15 cubits in length.[45] The lion, called "tigris", is said to be so big that there is a space of 9 cubits between its ears.[46] The Roman Caesar Hadrian once asked Rabbi Joshua ben Hananiah to show him this lion, since every lion can be killed, but the Rabbi refused and pointed out that this is not a normal lion. The Roman Caesar insisted, so the Rabbi reluctantly called for the lion of "Bei Ilai". He roared once from a distance of 400 parasangs, and all pregnant women miscarried and all the city walls of Rome tumbled down. Then he came to 300 parasangs and roared again, and the front teeth and molars of Roman men fell out, and even the emperor himself fell from his throne. He begged the Rabbi to send it back. The Rabbi prayed and it returned to its place. From wiki page on Jewish mythology (phone posting, otherwise I'd quote and link better).
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Sep 18, 2015 16:43
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cheerfullydrab posted:Too much trolling, I'll have to drown my sorrows with some wine from the Lutetian Republic. Oh for fucks sake Gaul is more than Lutetia! It's hard to remember with the Parisii lording it over all the other tribes, but there's more to this country than this cess pit of a river island, and much friendlier too.
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Sep 18, 2015 18:43
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A Strange Aeon posted:I never heard this before but it's amazing: Frigus fabula, fratrem
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Sep 18, 2015 18:45
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JaucheCharly posted:Frigus fabula, fratrem
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cheerfullydrab posted:I... can't tell who's trolling me more. its all rather byzantine isnt it
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JaucheCharly posted:Frigus fabula, fratrem HEY GAL posted:your grammar makes me hate u same
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Sep 18, 2015 18:52
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I could write it on a wall until I get it?
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Sep 18, 2015 18:55
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Agean90 posted:its all rather byzantine isnt it wrap it up basileiliures
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Sep 18, 2015 19:31
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This derail is all Greek to me.
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xthetenth posted:This derail is all Greek to me. f:b
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i like these jokes helot
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Sep 18, 2015 20:59
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Holy poo poo did someone open up a nitrous tank in nerd club? Still better than Atlantis or New Jersey Romans or whatever.
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JaucheCharly posted:I could write it on a wall until I get it? Be warned, Theophilus was there earlier.
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Sep 18, 2015 22:09
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Ahhiyawa out of Wilusa
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Sep 18, 2015 23:16
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:basileiliures 
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Sometimes this thread makes me wish I was blinded and sent to a monastery. But only one of those really nice ones.
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Sep 19, 2015 03:17
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A Strange Aeon posted:I never heard this before but it's amazing: This is awesome and fun. Is there anyone Jewish here that might try to decode the first myth,and then the second?
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Sep 19, 2015 07:59
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Is there a Roman here who could decode Greco-Roman myths for us?
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Is there a Roman here who could decode Greco-Roman myths for us?
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Ynglaur posted:Or someone from New Jersey. That should be close enough for some people ITT. Yes hi, I grew up near Seventh Rome (Trenton) so I can totally discuss all the Roman myths we secretly worship.
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Quift posted:This is awesome and fun. Is there anyone Jewish here that might try to decode the first myth,and then the second? Arrogant but naive Roman learns his lesson for doubting the authenticity of Jewish traditions, reaffirming their value within Roman society? Jews in the Roman world got a lot of grief from conservative talk radio for their ancestral customs (read: rejecting other gods) being antisocial and weird, the second part could be a response to that.
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I'm in the Met and I keep riving into these fundamentalist Christian tours called Oasis with tour guides giving infuriating interpretations of artifacts based on unrelated scripture. I'm in the Assyria gallery and the guy is explaining that Assyria sculpture represents antediluvian (literally) demons. Earlier a pair of iron age Greek swords were an allegory for something in the gospels. Frick! 
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Arglebargle III posted:I'm in the Met and I keep riving into these fundamentalist Christian tours called Oasis with tour guides giving infuriating interpretations of artifacts based on unrelated scripture. I'm in the Assyria gallery and the guy is explaining that Assyria sculpture represents antediluvian (literally) demons. Earlier a pair of iron age Greek swords were an allegory for something in the gospels. Frick! There's a lot of money to be made in telling people what they want to hear.
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What's that jewish legend about the little rock king Solomon had that needed to be kept in a lead box because it destroyed wahtever was exposed to it.
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Kellsterik posted:Arrogant but naive Roman learns his lesson for doubting the authenticity of Jewish traditions, reaffirming their value within Roman society? Jews in the Roman world got a lot of grief from conservative talk radio for their ancestral customs (read: rejecting other gods) being antisocial and weird, the second part could be a response to that. I did figure that out. I was wondering about the meaning of the original myth. The lion sounds like a metaphor for the assyrian empire, or the babylonian one. What is the n deer and what are they talking about? The lion (now being used to symbolise the lion of juda instead) literally making the Roman toothless is quite fun though.
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quote:What's that jewish legend about the little rock king Solomon had that needed to be kept in a lead box because it destroyed wahtever was exposed to it. I don't know if this page on the Shamir is accurate, but it's entertaining reading (more entertaining than the less speculative Wikipedia article.. though that one does have a demon). Anyway, thanks for bringing up the subject. jmzero fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Sep 20, 2015 |
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It was sort of interesting hearing the history of Babylon spun through an oral tradition of a random tribe that may or may not have been in the area, filtered through an ancient book and then tortured into a bizzarro half-mythic alternate history noddingly agreed to by people halfway around the world who will never be impacted by Nebuchadnezzar or Darius. It's like seeing myth in action, I guess. I wonder how literally the Hebrews of the classical period took these stories. Hard to forgive the "this is literally a sculpture of a demon from life" and "let's interpret these 400 BC Hellene artifacts in the context of the Gospel of Matthew" though.
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Arglebargle III posted:It was sort of interesting hearing the history of Babylon spun through an oral tradition of a random tribe that may or may not have been in the area, filtered through an ancient book and then tortured into a bizzarro half-mythic alternate history noddingly agreed to by people halfway around the world who will never be impacted by Nebuchadnezzar or Darius. It's like seeing myth in action, I guess. I wonder how literally the Hebrews of the classical period took these stories. It's a powerful myth, and it persists through the modern age. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDYAqz603TE
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Tunicate posted:What's that jewish legend about the little rock king Solomon had that needed to be kept in a lead box because it destroyed wahtever was exposed to it. 
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I am unironically interested in more ancient Jewish mythology because that lion is loving boss.
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Apropos of nothing, the Game Room has a game going where we're taking a stone age tribe into the industrial age. So if that sounds interesting to anyone: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3734730&pagenumber=5
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