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Agronox posted:And what are MESS up to? Hangin out at anime cons 
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That is drat good cosplay.
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Sep 14, 2015 13:17
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I want to marry that Hajime cosplayer
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Sep 14, 2015 13:44
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a kitten posted:Hangin out at anime cons She replaced the yellow scarf thing with a red one and puts an iPhone in her shirt to be Katze.
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Sep 14, 2015 13:52
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a kitten posted:Hangin out at anime cons 
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Sep 14, 2015 16:37
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I cant see her baps through the cosplay how can I be sure if this is peak hajime?
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Sep 14, 2015 18:35
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Namtab posted:I cant see her baps through the cosplay how can I be sure if this is peak hajime? if you can't tell she's got huge baps i think it cannot possibly be hajime
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Sep 14, 2015 18:59
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I vote that this thread continue without commenting on cosplayer's breasts and that those who disagree should be absorbed.
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Sep 15, 2015 02:02
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Rand Brittain posted:I vote that this thread continue without commenting on cosplayer's breasts and that those who disagree should be absorbed. i think two posts that haven't been followed up on for hours are fine
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Sep 15, 2015 02:05
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How many episodes are left?
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Sep 15, 2015 18:45
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In Training posted:How many episodes are left? Two more, I think.
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Sep 16, 2015 04:22
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a kitten posted:Hangin out at anime cons Alfalfa The Roach posted:I want to marry that Hajime cosplayer
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Sep 16, 2015 04:38
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Sakurazuka posted:Hajime is going to ride her That was my first thought too, but I'd say Gelsadra is more likely given their relationship. Davincie posted:millione is a bad guy. he's a huge part of the problem as a guy who helps create the atmosphere He doesn't really though, he even said it himself when he was considering firing OD: he just goes along with the trends to keep ratings high. Jou is more directly responsible than he is. Then again, I actually kind of liked Million in the last episode. When he saw Mana's dad getting eating he didn't check for the atmosphere, he just immediately started questioning how good the Kuus were, which at the time was against the general atmosphere. He may have had time to come to that decision before airing the video, but he still went against the flow regardless.
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Sep 19, 2015 01:53
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When humanity finally updates I wonder if it would result in space marines popping up and Hajime founding the Imperium of Gatchaman? 
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Sep 19, 2015 15:13
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Rand Brittain posted:I vote that this thread continue without commenting on cosplayer's breasts and that those who disagree should be absorbed. No promises
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Sep 19, 2015 17:30
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Welp, I wasn't expecting that. It actually tied a lot of the themes brought out earlier in the season. "Leave it to the gatchamen" 
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Sep 19, 2015 18:40
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That episode was brutal. Please don't die Hajime
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Sep 19, 2015 21:41
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The OD and DD confrontation I was waiting for
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Sep 19, 2015 21:48
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dogsicle posted:The OD and DD confrontation I was waiting for I gotta feel for DD because he's just doing a job (even though he's horrible) and probably has no grudges with OD. It must be terrifying to be face to face with the alien capable of blowing up planets that you just replaced.
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Sep 19, 2015 21:52
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Cao Ni Ma posted:I gotta feel for DD because he's just doing a job (even though he's horrible) and probably has no grudges with OD. It must be terrifying to be face to face with the alien capable of blowing up planets that you just replaced. it seemed to me more like DD was just completely fawning over OD. Not surprising that he'd be an OD fanboy, since he completely aped his style and all.
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Sep 19, 2015 23:16
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Cao Ni Ma posted:"Leave it to the gatchamen"
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Sep 19, 2015 23:21
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So why did the Kuu-samas blow up now? Is it because there's video evidence, and what happened was so visceral and brutal that people couldn't hide behind subconscious/social cues?
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Sep 19, 2015 23:25
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Adelheid posted:it seemed to me more like DD was just completely fawning over OD. Not surprising that he'd be an OD fanboy, since he completely aped his style and all. that and he knows he's just a pale imitation who stole the job
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Sep 19, 2015 23:35
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Redmark posted:So why did the Kuu-samas blow up now? Is it because there's video evidence, and what happened was so visceral and brutal that people couldn't hide behind subconscious/social cues? Does this have to be a spoiler, since it is just my thoughts? Probably not. I think that peoples sense of morality kicked in, forcing their minds to stop thinking with the herd and feel pity for what has happened. As their subconscious is no longer following the atmosphere, the Kuu that they create don't have anything to keep existing with. By the way, this episode proves it: Hajime is Jesus.
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Sep 20, 2015 00:02
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It's surprising that the Gatchamen agreed to go along with that plan really. It's not exactly a slam dunk. But of course,quote:Hajime is Jesus
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Sep 20, 2015 00:10
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Oh Hajime you brilliant idiot. ganbatte
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Sep 20, 2015 00:45
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Hajime continues to be the Twitter Buddha. All the collateral damage, the violence and Sugane's bloodthirsty act really made the episode. CROWDS continues to be everything I have wanted superhero shows to be about.
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Sep 20, 2015 00:56
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When Jou flew down and whisked Sugane out of danger 
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Sep 20, 2015 00:59
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drat, that got heavy.
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Sep 20, 2015 01:04
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I like that we finally have an answer for 'what are Gatchaman good for in this new mass media world?' Entertaining people, giving people catharsis, and raising people's consciousness.
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Sep 20, 2015 02:00
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I'm still working through my thoughts on this episode and the direction this has all been taking, but one thing that's continuing to niggle at me is how the problems here seem to only be solvable due to the lack of lasting consequences. Now, that may seem a daft thing to say in the light of this episode and the havoc the 'atmosphere' has wreaked, but think about it for a second. We've just had two governments get dissolved without lasting economic consequences. The whole plan hinged on the 'atmosphere' calming down and moving on after Gelsadra's 'defeat' as if nothing had happened. The Kuus just vanished, leaving their unharmed victims behind. The country can move on and survive because it could have been bad, but didn't end up being a big deal. The problem is, that doesn't map onto the real world easily. The Gelsadra era was basically a super-horizontal society in which hierarchies and expertise were discarded in favour of fashion and popularity. The show was pretty clear about this - the country was collapsing into quietly terrified apathy, and if things went wrong, there was no safety net because you were harshing the buzz and the Kuus were going to eat you. Logically, that should have completely hosed over the economy. We have experts for a reason - learning a field takes time and effort, and nobody can become an expert in everything. Dissolving the government and turning every decision over to opinion polls (and 'let Gel handle it' was an opinion poll in itself, since he was a vessel for the country's will) would massively decrease the amount of specialist expertise that went into them and subject them to fickle, disastrous short-termism. Soon, you'd see vital services falling apart, and that's a doubly giant loving problem in the world of Insight because of the developing cult of positivity. Again, if you're unhappy with the situation, the mob (literally) devours you. Your sister dying of blood poisoning because hospital cleaners aren't a sexy, fashionable investment is a pretty good reason to be unhappy, and as more people are disappeared and criticism of a massively unstable, failing system is suppressed, the Kuus are just going to get hungrier. It'd be a socioeconomic feedback loop, and that's before you consider how the tyranny of the majority would interact with class prejudice, sexism, and other bigotries. I mean, do remember that they tend to be hit hardest when the economy goes south/society ties itself in a knot as default, so therefore a disproportionate number of people who'd be going against society's grain by being publicly unhappy with the status quo would be people that society doesn't especially like anyway. The show does address the problem of expertise dying out in the Gelsadra Era - the most obvious example is Rui's plight. The show's Steve Jobs figure basically ends up regressing to intact in a pile of semi-sentient hug-pillows, but this is treated as a problem for the future. GALAX trundles on perfectly well without Rui, and the tragedy here is that he'll no longer improve the world from the status quo, not that it'll actively get worse without him. I mean, yes, you could argue that that's because the CEO isn't all that important to the day-to-day running of a company, but that's not how Gatchaman Crowds frames things. It may spend much of its narrative casting a very sceptical eye on Great Man Theory, but it still uses individuals to represent sections of society. Suguyama is the Japanese political class. Millione is the media. Jou is the civil service. Rui, then, is the embodiment of the tech sector. Plus, the Gelsadra malaise is a public one, so you can't expect the industry workforce to be better at handling it than their boss. This issue with lack of consequence follows on to this episode. Japan has lost its government for a second time. At least the first time around, you could argue that Gelsadra's superhuman abilities were keeping the government propped up despite everyone else in it being tired (see also, that scene of him sorting paperwork super-fast). Now, Japan doesn't even have that, and we're expected to believe that the country calmed down afterwards. The whole thing just doesn't quite seem honest to the real world - the show seems to exist in a nice middle-class liberal bubble where the status quo is fairly OK, people are accepting of even quite extreme differences (like being a literal space alien), and politics is perceived as inconsequential because it doesn't have an immediate consequence on your life, which is where both the problems and the solutions it presents comes from. Maybe it's just me speaking as a guy with multiple disabilities, but much of this seems a bit neat and abstract. I quite understand that all of the above is highly complex and difficult to fit into a thirteen-episode show in its entirety, but as I said in my great big post on Crowds Insight and Imperial Japan, this is a highly political show with a clear message, and messages are shaped as much by what you leave out as what you put in. I know GC was getting praised earlier for making its points without Psycho-Pass's gore and general edginess, but I think this is one area where P-P did better - it was always willing to examine how its ideas affected multiple sections of society in different ways. Yes, it's a longer series, but I don't think that's the whole story - even the movie covered how a very broad social spectrum in two different countries dealt with Sybil (and even briefly touched on the notorious minefield that is religion in speculative fiction). Like I said, I'm still mulling this over, but those are my half-formed thoughts so far.
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Sep 20, 2015 02:38
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I feel like we'll see an epilogue/picking up the pieces next episode, so I think you are jumping the gun a little. It's not even the case that all the Kuu are gone, it seems like the ones corresponding to the people okay with killing Gel are still around.
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Fangz posted:I feel like we'll see an epilogue/picking up the pieces next episode, so I think you are jumping the gun a little. It's not even the case that all the Kuu are gone, it seems like the ones corresponding to the people okay with killing Gel are still around. I'm operating off the assumption that things are going to end pretty OK and that Hajime's plan has mostly fixed things simply because we have only one episode left, which wouldn't really be enough if there's too much of a complicated, systemic mess to resolve. I mean, yeah, Rizumu's still out there, but I would be deeply surprised if he's able to be much more than a surface-level problem to be swept away.
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Darth Walrus posted:I'm operating off the assumption that things are going to end pretty OK and that Hajime's plan has mostly fixed things simply because we have only one episode left, which wouldn't really be enough if there's too much of a complicated, systemic mess to resolve. I mean, yeah, Rizumu's still out there, but I would be deeply surprised if he's able to be much more than a surface-level problem to be swept away. I can see there being a fairly open ended end, really. For once I feel like 'but our fight continues....' would be perfectly justified.
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Sep 20, 2015 02:54
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where is the crowds vs kuus where the gently caress is it
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Sep 20, 2015 02:55
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i hope there's a third season and they fight some other representation of the ills of modern society
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Sep 20, 2015 02:56
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Cake Attack posted:i hope there's a third season and they fight some other representation of the ills of modern society X was a villain in the old series, so there's the season 3 premise
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Sep 20, 2015 02:58
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Yikes, you have a problem with way overthinking things. What do you think is the directors and the writers intent when making Gatchaman Crowds Insight? This episode is at its core about the consequences of the whole "leave it to *Person*"mentality the show has been harping about. Even though it frames it as a vote of sorts, thats not whats happening. Quite the apposite is happening actually, its like no votes were being rendered at all. Someone else will handle it! The problem then is when things turn in a direction that you didn't want to, and now you are powerless to stop them, which is what was happening when the gatchamen took it to the extreme. This is something that is happening RIGHT NOW in japan after decades of people simply not caring about their politics. Its coming to bite them in the rear end, and now people are mobilizing because they are afraid of what might happen later.
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dogsicle posted:X was a villain in the old series, so there's the season 3 premise X has been a real cool character and has been shown to have good judgement so I don't know how they'll make X a villain without it seeming forced.
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