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waitwhatno posted:The Turkites, the CIS Slavs and the thank you very much also nice fanfiction
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Not sure if I posted this when it happened, but you'll remember the Syrian refugee that was tripped by a reporter in Hungary or w/e. Well he made it to Spain and got a job there as a football coach. Now Real Madrid did a big thing in support of him as part of a larger campaign about refugees, which is really cool. Here he is meeting Ronaldo  And here's his son, who got to be one of the kids who walks out with the players at the beginning of the game. 
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Sinnlos posted:"The welcome was very touching," said Syrian refugee Mohammed Abdullahi, tearing up, "the gas made it really feel like home." Volkerball posted:Not sure if I posted this when it happened, but you'll remember the Syrian refugee that was tripped by a reporter in Hungary or w/e. Well he made it to Spain and got a job there as a football coach. Now Real Madrid did a big thing in support of him as part of a larger campaign about refugees, which is really cool.
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Volkerball posted:Not sure if I posted this when it happened, but you'll remember the Syrian refugee that was tripped by a reporter in Hungary or w/e. Well he made it to Spain and got a job there as a football coach. Now Real Madrid did a big thing in support of him as part of a larger campaign about refugees, which is really cool. This is the kind of thing that reminds me to not quite give up on humanity yet.
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Sep 19, 2015 22:57
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Genocidal Magyars try to poison refugees with non-Brioche sandwiches:
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Even by your standards that is a low-quality shitpost.
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Food that is kept cold should not be kept at room temperature for more than four hours. Then it must be thrown out.
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VitalSigns posted:"So let's make sure they don't get any of it" is not a reasonable or moral response to the realization that your standard of living and appetite for luxuries are unsustainable. Volkerball posted:Not sure if I posted this when it happened, but you'll remember the Syrian refugee that was tripped by a reporter in Hungary or w/e. Well he made it to Spain and got a job there as a football coach. Now Real Madrid did a big thing in support of him as part of a larger campaign about refugees, which is really cool. Of course a company owned by the UAE wants to encourage the refugees to go to Europe 
Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:Your moralizing is tired and pointless because you refuse to commit to any thing concrete. Which is it, is your position that full worldwide communism now, with all resources distributed according to need, is the only moral solution, or will you explain why Europe is morally obligated to help this group of suffering people but not others? Actually, that story is good, and by gabbling about the semites you've established yourself in opposition to its goodness. Thus your constant complaints about "moralizing".
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Sep 19, 2015 23:58
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Dead Reckoning posted:Your moralizing is tired and pointless because you refuse to commit to any thing concrete. Which is it, is your position that full worldwide communism now, with all resources distributed according to need, is the only moral solution, or will you explain why Europe is morally obligated to help this group of suffering people but not others? Where have they stated another group are not worthy of moral obligation to be helped?
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Dead Reckoning posted:Your moralizing is tired and pointless because you refuse to commit to any thing concrete. Which is it, is your position that full worldwide communism now, with all resources distributed according to need, is the only moral solution, or will you explain why Europe is morally obligated to help this group of suffering people but not others? That's not a good reason to send people showing up at your doorstep back to die in a war, and I doubt very much you apply this standard every time you consider helping someone. The reason there's a moral obligation to house refugees is because the alternative is directly banishing hundreds of thousands of people to die. I can donate to the Red Cross without going  "Well why should I donate to them and not others, now I'm logically compelled to give away all my money and sell my organs to raise more." Europe can house people who are showing up on their shores, they don't have to wait for a grand Century Plan to fix all ills of the world first, that's ludicrous.I'm not even moralizing here, your standards are just totally illogical.
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Narciss posted:Genocidal Magyars try to poison refugees with non-Brioche sandwiches: I too use facebook as my primary news source.
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:It's not immoral, it's just going to hilariously backfire because people just aren't going to sacrifice much even if you call them racist a bunch of times. This will lead to a surge in the right wing and ultimately regressive policies for everyone. Well I don't think we should just go around calling random people racist, that doesn't seem very helpful. Europe should ignore the neo-Nazis and provide the new arrivals with education and housing and job training so they have economic opportunity and don't become an isolated disaffected minority that neo-Nazis can use as an excuse to get votes and enact regressive policies. And I don't see why housing people is going to impose sacrifices on the average European. Aren't we in a demand slump right now? Wouldn't employing idle people with new construction and new schools and new neighborhoods be a good thing? There is so much idle money just sitting around right now, didn't we figure out back in the 1930s that employing people to build things other people need is better than letting businesses sit on the largest pile of idle money in history? Surely that's better than letting the refugees be exterminated to please neo-Nazis. America should be taking advantage of this opportunity to grab huge numbers of educated people and create jobs by providing new infrastructure just like we did every time Europe poo poo the bed and couldn't see past their own short-sighted racism, but unfortunately the President is black and our legislature is scared of him so we can't get anything done 
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Sep 20, 2015 01:20
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Volkerball posted:Not sure if I posted this when it happened, but you'll remember the Syrian refugee that was tripped by a reporter in Hungary or w/e. Well he made it to Spain and got a job there as a football coach. Now Real Madrid did a big thing in support of him as part of a larger campaign about refugees, which is really cool. Ahhh good I'm so happy for that man.  That hateful Hungarian lady must be seething.
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Sep 20, 2015 04:15
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He stole a job from a deserving European, so I'm sure that reporter is furious about it.
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So like, I realize that resources are finite in some sense and naturally the mechanisms for processing refugees can become overwhelmed if too many show up in one place simultaneously, and that theoretically, too many being settled in one country can temporarily tax the country's economy to a point where it becomes politically unviable to settle so many people there, so a discussion of concrete policies to pursue and perhaps accepting that we will have to adopt some unsavoury ones as viewed by pro-settlement and anti-settlement camps (of course, with the intention of ultimately settling as many refugees as economically possible and that, imo, "economically possible" is way, way more than the chickenshit pittance certain countries are contributing to the crisis at present) will have to be had. However, I just don't understand how "instead of being outraged a lot, let's talk about what can actually be done" is in anyway served by nonsense like "scary Africans will outbreed us and blight Europe like a swarm of locusts by 2100" or "here is a picture of a rubbish bin with sandwhiches in it, ergo we cannot accept any refugees", or whatever Narciss meant with posting that facebook meme.
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Hey, uhh, Cracked.com actually sent two guys to the Serbia-Hungaria border to talk with the refugees and made a non-terrible article out of it. http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1916-we-met-syrias-war-refugees-7-awful-things-they-told-us.html
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SaltyJesus posted:Hey, uhh, Cracked.com actually sent two guys to the Serbia-Hungaria border to talk with the refugees and made a non-terrible article out of it. Thanks that was a cool read.
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Sep 20, 2015 10:32
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SaltyJesus posted:Hey, uhh, Cracked.com actually sent two guys to the Serbia-Hungaria border to talk with the refugees and made a non-terrible article out of it. A good one, though what's with all the cursing.
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Sep 20, 2015 12:08
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There's a petition link at the bottom of that Cracked article, for any Americans who want to ask Obama to accept the Red Cross's request to take in at least 65,000 refugees, FYI
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According to the Serbian government, in the past 5 months, the refugees committed a total of 3 crimes on Serbian territory.
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my dad posted:According to the Serbian government, in the past 5 months, the refugees committed a total of 3 crimes on Serbian territory. Those monsters! Do you have a source? That's interesting data.
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Sep 20, 2015 12:59
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Committing a crime is probably the last thing of the minds of the people on the move right now.
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murphyslaw posted:Do you have a source? That's interesting data. Our Prime Minister said it on TV. So, take it with a grain of salt, but it doesn't sound implausible to me.
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my dad posted:According to the Serbian government, in the past 5 months, the refugees committed a total of 3 crimes on Serbian territory. It's not like he has a vested interest in making them look as friendly as possible.
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GaussianCopula posted:It's not like he has a vested interest in making them look as friendly as possible. Yes as a Prime Minister the first thing I'd think of is lying to my citizens to put them in danger of criminals. This could not backfire at all.
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Sep 20, 2015 14:39
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Tesseraction posted:Yes as a Prime Minister the first thing I'd think of is lying to my citizens to put them in danger of criminals. This could not backfire at all. You live in the UK, you can't say that with a straight face.
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Sep 20, 2015 14:51
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Well, the thought of Cameron lying to support bringing in foreign people is pretty far-fetched. Dude literally pretended Syrian refugees were half economic migrants.
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Sep 20, 2015 14:56
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Only because he hasn't figured out a way to make money/grind the poor some more by bringing migrants/refugees in.
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Just a reminder what huge honking hypocrites Hungarians are being: http://www.unhcr.org/4523cb392.html
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SaltyJesus posted:http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1916-we-met-syrias-war-refugees-7-awful-things-they-told-us.html Lots of suspiciously long comments in suspiciously good English with very similar content
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hackbunny posted:Lots of suspiciously long comments in suspiciously good English with very similar content Surely a part of the crypto-Islamic eurabia propaganda.
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Sep 20, 2015 16:52
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I forget what topic attracted instant critical comments no matter how obscure the website that talked about it
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Cracked has really active forums, and this is obviously a pretty significant thing compared to their typical user submitted articles, so it's not surprising there's a lot of discussion there.
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SaltyJesus posted:Hey, uhh, Cracked.com actually sent two guys to the Serbia-Hungaria border to talk with the refugees and made a non-terrible article out of it. It's good that stories about the refugee crisis has even made to places like Cracked, so that info like that article will reach people who normally wouldn't search out info like that on their own.
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hackbunny posted:Lots of suspiciously long comments in suspiciously good English with very similar content Educated middle-class affluent people from a former European colony have had an English education, how suspicious
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VitalSigns posted:Educated middle-class affluent people from a former European colony have had an English education, how suspicious Come on, you know what he means. Spelling above third grade level is unusual on internet comments sections and I think he was simply referring to the Russian troll farms.
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Al-Saqr posted:Ahhh good I'm so happy for that man. One could argue that with a Spanish youth unemployment rate of 50% that guy is really stealing a job for more deserving natives!
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VitalSigns posted:That's not a good reason to send people showing up at your doorstep back to die in a war, and I doubt very much you apply this standard every time you consider helping someone. The reason there's a moral obligation to house refugees is because the alternative is directly banishing hundreds of thousands of people to die. If Europe is obligated to house and care for and grant citizenship to those who show up on their shores, why are they not obligated to do the same for those too sick or vulnerable to make the journey?
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