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A Fancy 400 lbs: Jul 24, 2008

D_I posted:

Or the US Government

I was being fair and assuming he was referring to improvised explosives since it was in the context of Ahmed Mohamad's clock.

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woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

http://makezine.com/2015/09/16/this-is-ahmed-mohameds-clock/

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RE: Ahmed�s completely innocent homemade clock.

When I first heard about Ahmed, the kid who made the news for his �bomb� clock project, I took his side. I played with discrete electronics as a kid. I built breadboards, I soldered, and I experimented with early robotics... In this STEM obsessed educational system, why couldn�t the school officials quickly dismiss this scare as a science project? Why did this make the news? I just didn�t get it� and then I saw a picture of the clock.

From CNN: �A teenager with dreams of becoming an engineer, he wanted to show his teacher the digital clock he'd made from a pencil case.�

Anyone with an understanding of electronics will immediately see this �homemade clock� is not the tinkering of a child or teen. It was never Ahmed�s idea to begin with. This isn�t some innocent science project. The picture of the clock exposes the lie. Ahmed did not lovingly patch together IC chips and resistors, as the media would like you to believe. What you see is the guts from a manufactured digital clock, right down to the 9 volt memory backup, and the prefab button board. Absolutely nothing was made. It�s the equivalent of taking the plastic surround off of your TV and claiming you �made� a TV.

Look at the case itself. CNN calls it a �pencil case.� Please. The whole package is vaguely sinister, and it�s intentional. Notice the nondescript packet of unidentified white powder. See that nice dent in the side? I wonder if you could stash plastic explosives behind that huge LED. Why is the lining so bumpy? Look at the shoddy taping and the twisted wire used to close the case. It�s almost as if someone designed this clock to look like a questionable object.

Again, from CNN: �"I built a clock to impress my teacher but when I showed it to her, she thought it was a threat to her," Ahmed told reporters Wednesday.� It was really sad that she took the wrong impression of it."�

Ahmed, you didn�t build a clock. You�re a pawn to your Dad�s political and social agenda. This is all a creation of your father. I�m sure he involved you in the process, and made you feel as though you were truly making something, but you didn�t. It�s a clock without its case. Everything in the �pencil case� was made in a factory. See, a legitimate electronics project full of diodes and resistors looks innocent. It usually runs off of a battery, not an exposed AC to DC transformer� speaking of science projects, Ahmed, why again did you bring this to class? Was it part of an assignment? Oh, you just wanted to impress your teacher with a clock you rearranged inside a small briefcase? Hmm�

From dallasnews.com: ��He fixed my phone, my car, my computer,� Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed said. �He is a very smart, brilliant kid.�

If he were so smart, he�d know the difference between creating a circuit and stripping the guts from a manufactured clock. His dad helped him �make� this, and dad helped to make this �project� look as questionable as possible, within the realm of plausible deniability.

The dad is a politician. He made this happen. Whatever agenda he�s advancing, it just further demonizes western society, and reminds us all to be guilty for how racist we all are. Maybe that�s the agenda.

It�s propaganda.

# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:09

Phone: Jul 30, 2005; 親子丼をほしい。

Is Chrono Taqiyya the anticipated sequel to Chrono Trigger? Or is it just a fan translation?

# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:12

King Dopplepopolos: Aug 3, 2007; Give us a raise, loser!

I'm not at all surprised that Ben Shapiro is being a shithead about this.

http://www.donotlink.com/gpyc

Breitbart posted:

The hubbub surrounding Irving, Texas 14-year-old MacArthur High School student Ahmed Mohammed � the kid who brought a homemade clock-in-a-case that looked like a fake bomb to school � continues apace, with the President of the United States inviting him to the White House, and 2016 Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton and Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg tweeting out encouragement.

There�s only one problem: the whole story smells. It stinks of leftist exploitation.

Here�s what we know. On Monday, Mohammed brought a homemade clock to school. For those who don�t know the ins-and-outs of electronics, the device looked like a possible incendiary device. Ahmed told the media that he made the clock last weekend and brought it to school to show his engineering teacher. He explained to local news, �It was the first time I brought an invention to school to show a teacher.�

He didn�t explain that to police, however, according to the authorities. And he didn�t just show the device to his engineering teacher. In fact, the engineering teacher told him not to carry the device around after Mohammed showed him, according to The New York Times:

He said he took it to school on Monday to show an engineering teacher, who said it was nice but then told him he should not show the invention to other teachers. Later, Ahmed�s clock beeped during an English class, and after he revealed the device to the teacher, school officials notified the police, and Ahmed was interrogated by officers. �She thought it was a threat to her,� Ahmed told reporters Wednesday. �So it was really sad that she took a wrong impression of it.�

Why was the device in English class in the first place, especially after the engineering teacher told him not to show it around? When confronted by police and his English teacher, why didn�t Mohammed just tell them to talk to the engineering teacher? When police asked Ahmed what the device was and why he brought it to school, according to WFAA:

Officers said Ahmed was being �passive aggressive� in his answers to their questions, and didn�t have a �reasonable answer� as to what he was doing with the case. Investigators said the student told them that it was just a clock that he was messing around with. �We attempted to question the juvenile about what it was and he would simply only say it was a clock. He didn�t offer any explanation as to what it was for, why he created this device, why he brought it to school,� said James McLellan, Irving Police.

Here�s the statute Ahmed Mohammed authorities originally suspected Mohammed of violating (Texas Penal Code Section 46.08):

(a) A person commits an offense if the person knowingly manufactures, sells, purchases, transports, or possesses a hoax bomb with intent to use the hoax bomb to:

(1) make another believe that the hoax bomb is an explosive or incendiary device; or

(2) cause alarm or reaction of any type by an official of a public safety agency or volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies.

(b) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.

Nobody said Mohammed built an actual bomb. They suspected that he had wanted to frighten or alarm officials with a hoax-bomb. When they found out he didn�t intend to do that, they released him.

Given the limited evidence available, this is not far-fetched. Again, where was the engineering teacher to vouch for Mohammed�s story? Why didn�t Mohammed simply explain himself? The police said that initially, it was �not immediately evident� that the clock-in-a-case was a class experiment � perfectly plausible, given that Mohammed built the clock-in-a-case voluntarily, without assignment, and in conjunction with no science fair.

Chief Larry Boyd said simply and correctly, �You can�t take things like that to school� without explanation or assignment in today�s world without it receiving scrutiny.

And according to the cops, Ahmed was significantly more cooperative with friendly media than with the police who came to ask some simple questions.

That�s probably not a coincidence. Ahmed�s father, as Pamela Geller points out, is an anti-Islamophobia media gadfly. He routinely returns to Sudan to run for president; he has debated anti-Koran Florida pastor Terry Jones, partially in order to bring his children to Disneyworld. In 2011, the Washington Post wrote of him:

Elhassan, a native of the Sudan who is now an American citizen, likes to call himself a sheik. He wears a cleric�s flowing white robes and claims hundreds of followers throughout Egypt, Sudan and in the United States. But he is unknown as a scholar or holy man in the state he has called home for two decades. Religious leaders in Texas say they have never heard of Elhassan, including the imam at the mosque where he worships.

It�s no surprise that Ahmed Mohammed�s dad ran to the cameras at the first opportunity. It�s also no surprise that the terror-connected Council on American-Islamic Relations arrived to push the Islamophobia narrative immediately.

But there�s a long history of detaining science students for experiments administrators don�t understand. Homer Hickam, the subject of the movie October Sky, found himself in handcuffs during the Cold War for starting a forest fire with a rocket he built. And since September 11, such incidents have become more common. As someone who went to a Jewish high school based in Los Angeles and located next to the Simon Wiesenthal Center, police and security regularly evacuated our high school due to bomb threats. If one of the students had brought a device to school in this fashion, the student would have been detained and questioned � again, in an all-Jewish school.

And as Ian Tuttle of National Review has pointed out, America has become extra-paranoid of late: students have been suspended for gun-shaped Pop Tarts, cap guns, finger guns, and saying the word gun, among other grave offenses. And we don�t even need weapons to suspend students anymore: wearing an American flag at the wrong time or donning a Confederate flag t-shirt will do it.

So why, after the detention and release, did this story become a national one? Why did Obama jump on this story? Why did Hillary jump on this story? Where were they for then-16-year-old Kiera Wilmot of Florida to the White House after she was arrested and suspended in 2013 for bringing an experiment with toilet cleaner and aluminum foil to school? She was black but not Muslim, so it didn�t serve the narrative. They were MIA.

For years, the Obama administration has pushed the notion that American Muslims are in danger of Islamophobic backlash. But as of 2012, 62.4 percent of all anti-religious hate crimes targeted Jews; 11.6 percent targeted Muslims; as of 2013, anti-Jewish hate crimes represented 60.3 percent of all hate crimes, as opposed to just 13.7 percent for Muslims. That�s a major decline in anti-Islamic hate crimes since 2001, when 55.7 percent of hate crimes were anti-Jewish, and anti-Muslim hate crimes constituted 27.2 percent of all hate crimes.

So where, exactly, are all the invitations to Jewish students targeted in hate crime incidents?

They don�t exist, because they don�t help President Obama castigate America as xenophobic and backwards � and just as importantly, castigate Texans as particularly likely to don white hoods and go hunt down some Sufis.

The narrative reigns supreme. Ahmed Mohammed brought a clock-in-a-case that looked like a hoax bomb to the uninformed to school; his engineering teacher told him not to show it around; he showed it around; the police showed up, and he was allegedly uncooperative; they decided he was innocent and released him.

That�s not a national scandal. That�s local cops and teachers and administrators doing their jobs, decently but cautiously. Yet that won�t be what you hear. You�ll just hear that America hates Muslims, even as Americans self-righteously tweet out #IStandWithAhmed without hearing the facts.

Ben Shapiro is Senior Editor-At-Large of Breitbart News and The New York Times bestselling author, most recently, of the book, The People vs. Barack Obama: The Criminal Case Against The Obama Administration (Threshold Editions, June 10, 2014).

King Dopplepopolos fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Sep 20, 2015

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Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

We really need a "link but give them no hits" thing like the UK has to go scum diving for things the right says.

# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:30

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

Also right now theres a poo poo load of wingnut muckraking because people are saying the family is starting to redirect money donations for his college tuition to their private accounts, also digging for comments/fake poo poo from Sudan linking his father to terrorism.

# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:35

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

They just can't let him win, can they? It's amazing. How soon till there's a crowd of old white men in front of his house with US flags yelling at them to go back to Africa?

SedanChair posted:

http://makezine.com/2015/09/16/this-is-ahmed-mohameds-clock/

Make comments aren't fooled by chronotaqiyya in the service of Sudanese regime change

Oh god loving dammit. The internet is way too good at encouraging people to tear children apart for the most petty of things. Now the maker crowd is getting in on it? What's next, do we get a Popular Mechanics story on clock design?

# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:37

King Dopplepopolos: Aug 3, 2007; Give us a raise, loser!

Nonsense posted:

We really need a "link but give them no hits" thing like the UK has to go scum diving for things the right says.

There is a site called DoNotLink that seems to do just that. I edited my link to use it. You're right, it would probably be good to use it, or something like it, in the future.

http://www.donotlink.com/

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nachos: Jun 27, 2004; Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Noted very serious person Fareed Zakaria just went on a baffling monologue about how the Republican candidates can learn from the Tories overseas by increasing health spending, raising taxes and minimum wage, and other complete non starters with today's GOP. He then ended by gloating that the only serious politicians are in the center.

# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:39

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Sir Tonk posted:

Oh god loving dammit. The internet is way too good at encouraging people to tear children apart for the most petty of things. Now the maker crowd is getting in on it? What's next, do we get a Popular Mechanics story on clock design?

Makezine is usually pretty sensitive to the community, I doubt this article is going to go over well, especially since they are big on encouraging kids in tech.

The worst part is his article misses the point: His project didn't cause as much of an uproar, it was his TREATMENT at the hands of the police and school.

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Sep 20, 2015

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Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

CommieGIR posted:

Makezine is usually pretty sensitive to the community, I doubt this article is going to go over well, especially since they are big on encouraging kids in tech.

Yeah exactly, it's very odd that they would let that get published. They shouldn't be scared that him getting a spotlight will discredit their hobby and tearing him down will only serve to discourage people.

it's childish and if it wasn't the executive editor of Make Magazine writing it I'd be a bit less irritated.

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Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

nachos posted:

Noted very serious person Fareed Zakaria just went on a baffling monologue about how the Republican candidates can learn from the Tories overseas by increasing health spending, raising taxes and minimum wage, and other complete non starters with today's GOP. He then ended by gloating that the only serious politicians are in the center.

Fareed Zakaria wants the Republicans to learn from Ian Duncan Smith, ah ok.

King Dopplepopolos posted:

There is a site called DoNotLink that seems to do just that. I edited my link to use it. You're right, it would probably be good to use it, or something like it, in the future.

http://www.donotlink.com/

This is cool and appreciated for finding this.

# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:42

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

nachos posted:

Noted very serious person Fareed Zakaria just went on a baffling monologue about how the Republican candidates can learn from the Tories overseas by increasing health spending, raising taxes and minimum wage, and other complete non starters with today's GOP. He then ended by gloating that the only serious politicians are in the center.

So only the Democratic party is serious.

# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:43

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

Sir Tonk posted:

So only the Democratic party is serious.

I mean, in case you hadn't noticed.

# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:45

Thump!: Nov 25, 2007; Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!

Man, they really made us look like a bunch of racists then, what with the democratically elected leader of the free world coming out to loving apologize to him.

Sure got us, those devious mooselimbs.

# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:46

Dr.Zeppelin: Dec 5, 2003

Sir Tonk posted:

So only the Democratic party is serious.

How can the thing that's defined as being "the thing on the left" be in the center, by definition? You would make a terrible Objective Journalist.

# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:50

Boywhiz88: Sep 11, 2005; floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

nachos posted:

Noted very serious person Fareed Zakaria just went on a baffling monologue about how the Republican candidates can learn from the Tories overseas by increasing health spending, raising taxes and minimum wage, and other complete non starters with today's GOP. He then ended by gloating that the only serious politicians are in the center.

I believe you mean "proven plagiarist Fareed Zakaria"

# ? Sep 20, 2015 20:01

Tender Bender: Sep 17, 2004

King Dopplepopolos posted:

I'm not at all surprised that Ben Shapiro is being a shithead about this.

http://www.donotlink.com/gpyc

Haha "this Muslim man is known to be anti-islamophobia. Suspicious!"

gently caress off.

# ? Sep 20, 2015 20:01

James Garfield: May 5, 2012; Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!

CommieGIR posted:

Makezine is usually pretty sensitive to the community, I doubt this article is going to go over well, especially since they are big on encouraging kids in tech.

The worst part is his article misses the point: His project didn't cause as much of an uproar, it was his TREATMENT at the hands of the police and school.

It's a user comment on an article that says the clock didn't look anything like a bomb. Most of the responses are calling it out. :shrug:

# ? Sep 20, 2015 20:42

beatlegs: Mar 11, 2001

nachos posted:

Noted very serious person Fareed Zakaria just went on a baffling monologue about how the Republican candidates can learn from the Tories overseas by increasing health spending, raising taxes and minimum wage, and other complete non starters with today's GOP.

If only there was a party in the US that was willing to implement those policies.

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beatlegs: Mar 11, 2001

dbl post

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fade5: May 31, 2012; by exmarx

The first attack ad knocking Jeb! for his "my brother kept us safe" comment has been deployed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on9q1GrE7Ys
:getin:

# ? Sep 20, 2015 21:55

A Fancy 400 lbs: Jul 24, 2008

beatlegs posted:

If only there was a party in the US that was willing to implement those policies.

Yeah, but none of the socialist party splinters are ever gonna win higher than local office.

# ? Sep 20, 2015 21:57

MizPiz: May 29, 2013; by Athanatos

fade5 posted:

The first attack ad knocking Jeb! for his "my brother kept us safe" comment has been deployed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on9q1GrE7Ys

Since it's from a more liberal organization, I bet that the entire field is going to jump all over it. I'll hope that Trump will say that it isn't wrong (or however you translate that into Trump), but RWM are going to cream themselves over "the DemonkkkRATS exploiting tragedy for political gain."

Beside, the disappointment from none of the other candidates, not even Trump, jumping on it during the debate is a void that will never be filled.

# ? Sep 20, 2015 23:47

MaxxBot: Oct 6, 2003; you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

SedanChair posted:

http://makezine.com/2015/09/16/this-is-ahmed-mohameds-clock/

Make comments aren't fooled by chronotaqiyya in the service of Sudanese regime change

Unsurprisingly, the commenter pretends to be some sort of electronics expert yet gets every single possible technical detail wrong.

# ? Sep 21, 2015 01:52

Mr Ice Cream Glove: Apr 22, 2007

This is beautiful

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mr. mephistopheles: Dec 2, 2009

I'm so sick of "culture warriors." Can you not go one loving day without attacking people that are different from you. Like goddamn, grow the gently caress up and learn to respect people with different beliefs. I doubt most of these people have ever even personally interacted with a Muslim at all, much less in a negative way.

# ? Sep 21, 2015 03:59

Mc Do Well: Aug 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

mr. mephistopheles posted:

I'm so sick of "culture warriors." Can you not go one loving day without attacking people that are different from you. Like goddamn, grow the gently caress up and learn to respect people with different beliefs. I doubt most of these people have ever even personally interacted with a Muslim at all, much less in a negative way.

Just makes them easier to hate.

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beatlegs: Mar 11, 2001

mr. mephistopheles posted:

I'm so sick of "culture warriors." Can you not go one loving day without attacking people that are different from you. Like goddamn, grow the gently caress up and learn to respect people with different beliefs. I doubt most of these people have ever even personally interacted with a Muslim at all, much less in a negative way.

Conservative media has enabled this. Trolls like Crowder have fans cheering them on. There's no shame in being an awful human being anymore. Until there is they will not stop.

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Xanderkish: Aug 10, 2011; Hello!

I don't know why, but I've been seeing more of Crowder on Facebook and Twitter, even though I do not at all look for him. I don't know if that's just my bad luck or if he's gotten more obnoxious of late.

# ? Sep 21, 2015 04:41

Necc0: Jun 30, 2005; by exmarx; Broken Cake

Facebook's ad network tracks you even when you're not on their site and noticed the connection.

Don't know how twitter does things

# ? Sep 21, 2015 04:44

computer parts: Nov 18, 2010; PLEASE CLAP

Necc0 posted:

Facebook's ad network tracks you even when you're not on their site and noticed the connection.

Don't know how twitter does things

Probably similarly. I got ads for slow cookers on both Twitter & Facebook after looking up the model I had bought for a friend.

# ? Sep 21, 2015 04:58

ToxicSlurpee: Nov 5, 2003; -=SEND HELP=-; Pillbug

beatlegs posted:

Conservative media has enabled this. Trolls like Crowder have fans cheering them on. There's no shame in being an awful human being anymore. Until there is they will not stop.

Rather they created a bubble where being a hideous, deplorable person is acceptable but "acceptable" keeps contracting into a continually smaller subset of awful people. If you don't hate Muslims enough you aren't one of them. If you aren't Christian enough you aren't one of them. If you aren't a wealthy white man and are not totally submissive to wealthy white men you are not one of them. Not only is it a nonstop race to the bottom but they're alienating people outside of the bubble while making the bubble tinier. It's a bizarre dichotomy because they're simultaneously trying to pull people in and making the requirements to be in tighter and tighter.

# ? Sep 21, 2015 05:07

Dr. Killjoy: Oct 9, 2012

computer parts posted:

Probably similarly. I got ads for slow cookers on both Twitter & Facebook after looking up the model I had bought for a friend.

The adtrackers actually inspect your recent internet cookies and generate the ads from them. So it's not Twitter or Facebook specifically.

# ? Sep 21, 2015 05:23

Spite: Jul 27, 2001; Small chance of that...

Here's what I don't get. It's not that he got pulled out of class. I've known plenty of panicky teachers and they probably wouldn't know what a bunch of electronic parts did. I would put money that somewhere a nerdy white kid has gotten pulled out of class for the same reason. And we never heard about it, because they just went "eh, he likes electronics. Don't bring it to school again." The problem is that they handcuffed the kid, hauled him off to jail and suspended him for 3 days. And the most telling thing is the cop going "Oh I'd guessed it was him."

# ? Sep 21, 2015 05:43

beatlegs: Mar 11, 2001

And the PD's refusal to admit they did anything wrong.

# ? Sep 21, 2015 06:18

Dr. Faustus: Feb 18, 2001; Grimey Drawer

With respect to the question of "Why do people think there are ISIS training camps in the US, I just remember seeing a lot stuff pop up awhile back (sorry, I don't remember exactly when it seemed like a hot topic). It seemed to go away, but I guess it's still simmering?

https://www.google.com/search?q=ISI...iw=1081&bih=488

# ? Sep 21, 2015 08:10

A. Beaverhausen: Nov 11, 2008; by R. Guyovich

I really hate people when poo poo Like Ben Carson saying a Muslim shouldn't be allowed to be president gets on facebook, because I cannot argue with any of those people and tell them why what Carson said is a bad thing without being called a terrorist.

# ? Sep 21, 2015 08:35

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

A. Beaverhausen posted:

I really hate people when poo poo Like Ben Carson saying a Muslim shouldn't be allowed to be president gets on facebook, because I cannot argue with any of those people and tell them why what Carson said is a bad thing without being called a terrorist.

I think Clinton and Sanders have both condemned him.

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Davethulhu: Aug 12, 2003; Morbid Hound

I just realized that what Ahmed really invented was a bigot detector, and it worked better than anyone could have imagined.

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