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Parahexavoctal: Oct 10, 2004; I AM NOT BEING PAID TO CORRECT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS! DONKEY!!

Rap Record Hoarder posted:

Those are valid examples, although you'd be hardpressed to find a casual comic book fan who knew of any of them besides Steel.

And I think the fact that Thunderball is smart (but not falling into the "evil because they're so tortured by their intellect" trope) and still chooses to be a villain is a neat bit of characterization.

You need to read his appearance in Damage Control!

(we miss you, Dwayne McDuffie)

Oh, and for badass - read the "When Doom Defaults" issue.

("Do you have ID? ..... Do you have photo ID?")

# ? Sep 21, 2015 17:47

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# ? May 11, 2024 14:53

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

The Question IRL posted:

The "kid" was actually the mother of those kids.
She dies, but because she was British and Brian Braddock had moved onto the king of the Outworld, he shows up and gives her the same choice he was given. The Sword or the Stone.
She choses the Sword and becomes the new Captain Britain.
She is later renamed to Lionheart, shows up in Claremounts Excalibre run (where she is being mind controlled. 'Natch.)

And after that was into obscurity.
As for why you never heard of this? This was the Avengers run just before Disassembled so she never got a proper run on Avengers.

And yes, those pages were written by Chuck Austin.

Ahh, because she's kneeling and Thunderball is huge she looked young.

# ? Sep 21, 2015 18:01

Electric_Mud: May 31, 2011; >10 THRUST "ROBO_COX"
>20 GOTO 10

Endless Mike posted:

Throw it at Batman.

# ? Sep 21, 2015 18:10

Evil Mastermind: Apr 28, 2008

Parahexavoctal posted:

You need to read his appearance in Damage Control!

(we miss you, Dwayne McDuffie)

Oh, and for badass - read the "When Doom Defaults" issue.

("Do you have ID? ..... Do you have photo ID?")

# ? Sep 21, 2015 18:23

10 Beers: May 21, 2005; Shit! I didn't bring a knife.

Ferrule posted:

Midnight (2).

It happened in an arc of AMS that also included Darkhawk, Punisher, and Night Thrasher (another "smart black guy").

Round Robin: The Sidekick's Revenge! :science:

# ? Sep 21, 2015 18:37

Alhazred: Feb 16, 2011

Evil Mastermind posted:

Latveria seems to have a really low credit rating:

# ? Sep 21, 2015 18:40

The Question IRL: Jun 8, 2013; Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Alhazred posted:

Latveria seems to have a really low credit rating:

We can't let Latveria go to the wall. Dr. Doom is too big to fail!!

(This is also the plot to Secret Wars.)

# ? Sep 21, 2015 20:03

Gyro Zeppeli: Jul 19, 2012; sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

PicklePants posted:

I think he also upgraded Moon Knight's formerly dead, now a cyborg partner and the leader of the Secret Empire (who was also a secret cyborg).

I'll never respect a leader of the Secret Empire that isn't Literally Dick Nixon. :colbert:

# ? Sep 21, 2015 20:56

Madkal: Feb 11, 2008; Can't post for 35 hours!; Fallen Rib

Alhazred posted:

Latveria seems to have a really low credit rating:

Forget Fantastic Four. Fox should make this into a movie instead, while keeping the original dialog. Where's my money, Honey? indeed.

# ? Sep 21, 2015 22:24

smashpro1: Mar 1, 2009; Shirley, these things happen in video games. We can't get hung up on real-world morality.

Madkal posted:

Forget Fantastic Four. Fox should make this into a movie instead, while keeping the original dialog. Where's my money, Honey? indeed.

Luke Cage is at Marvel/Disney.

# ? Sep 22, 2015 00:01

Flesh Forge: Jan 31, 2011; LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Thank God.

# ? Sep 22, 2015 01:04

Gaz-L: Jan 28, 2009

Endless Mike posted:

Also someone later decided that people who pick the sword are wrong and there's a whole corps of Lionhearts who are all assholes with swords.

That someone would be Claremont, when he created Captain Britain? The whole point is to NOT pick the sword because if you do that you're picking a weapon to hurt people. The amulet is literally the amulet of RIGHT. It's not a hard test. Albeit it's one Austen failed.

# ? Sep 22, 2015 02:09

purple death ray: Jul 28, 2007; me omw 2 steal ur girl

Man, gently caress that. Swords are fuckin' rad as hell.

# ? Sep 22, 2015 02:10

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

Travis343 posted:

Man, gently caress that. Swords are fuckin' rad as hell.

Swords are cool, but if you're a no-killing hero, they kind of suck. You have to hope for a lot of robots.

# ? Sep 22, 2015 02:17

Gaz-L: Jan 28, 2009

prefect posted:

Swords are cool, but if you're a no-killing hero, they kind of suck. You have to hope for a lot of robots.

Or lots of slow-moving energy beams you can deflect.

# ? Sep 22, 2015 03:05

TwoPair: Mar 28, 2010; Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta; Grimey Drawer

The Question IRL posted:

We can't let Latveria go to the wall. Dr. Doom is too big to fail!!

(This is also the plot to Secret Wars.)

Secret Wars will end when the IRS takes his Beyonder powers because he didn't declare them as a fixed asset on his taxes.

# ? Sep 22, 2015 06:19

Flesh Forge: Jan 31, 2011; LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

prefect posted:

Swords are cool, but if you're a no-killing hero, they kind of suck. You have to hope for a lot of robots.

Look chopping off an arm or a leg gives the other guy the opportunity to become a cool cyborg, you're really doing them a favor

# ? Sep 22, 2015 10:55

Grendels Dad: Mar 5, 2011; Popular culture has passed you by.

Flesh Forge posted:

Look chopping off an arm or a leg gives the other guy the opportunity to become a cool cyborg, you're really doing them a favor

They're rubber swords. Honest!

# ? Sep 22, 2015 11:21

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Gaz-L posted:

That someone would be Claremont, when he created Captain Britain? The whole point is to NOT pick the sword because if you do that you're picking a weapon to hurt people. The amulet is literally the amulet of RIGHT. It's not a hard test. Albeit it's one Austen failed.

No, Claremont made it such that there's a right and a wrong choice. It was later decided that those who made the wrong choice get super powers anyway.

# ? Sep 22, 2015 13:23

The Question IRL: Jun 8, 2013; Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Endless Mike posted:

No, Claremont made it such that there's a right and a wrong choice. It was later decided that those who made the wrong choice get super powers anyway.

And in Earth/Universe/Paradise X, Alex Ross made it so that BOTH choices were the wrong choice.

# ? Sep 22, 2015 14:04

Mr. Maltose: Feb 16, 2011; The Guffless Girlverine

Wasn't the point in Universe X that there actually wasn't a choice, just a false duality?

# ? Sep 22, 2015 14:16

TwoPair: Mar 28, 2010; Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta; Grimey Drawer

prefect posted:

Swords are cool [...]

No they're not, swords are dangerous!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_RpbaUU7NI

# ? Sep 22, 2015 14:50

team overhead smash: Sep 2, 2006; Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

TwoPair posted:

No they're not, swords are dangerous!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_RpbaUU7NI

I agree!

# ? Sep 22, 2015 15:17

Evil Mastermind: Apr 28, 2008

# ? Sep 22, 2015 16:07

LawfulWaffle: Mar 11, 2014; Well, that aligns with the vibes I was getting. Which was, like, "normal" kinda vibes.

Revenant Threshold posted:

Avengers v.3 78

If Thunderball is so smart, you'd think he'd maybe give the chain a little more slack so it wraps around the shield to the soft target behind it, instead of hitting the indestructible shield over and over.

:goonsay:

e: Terry Pratchett rules

:goonsay:

LawfulWaffle fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Sep 22, 2015

# ? Sep 22, 2015 19:02

Heresiarch: Oct 6, 2005; Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

# ? Sep 22, 2015 20:00

The Question IRL: Jun 8, 2013; Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

LawfulWaffle posted:

If Thunderball is so smart, you'd think he'd maybe give the chain a little more slack so it wraps around the shield to the soft target behind it, instead of hitting the indestructible shield over and over.

Given that she ends up dying because even though she is wielding an indestructible shield, she's a normal housewife and doesn't have the training/physical strength to fend off super strong attacks, I think Thunderball won that argument.

# ? Sep 22, 2015 20:03

AnonSpore: Jan 19, 2012; "I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"

But the shield is supposed to completely absorb all kinetic energy she should just be standing there and the ball hits the shield and drops to her feet every time

:spergin:

# ? Sep 22, 2015 20:07

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

AnonSpore posted:

But the shield is supposed to completely absorb all kinetic energy she should just be standing there and the ball hits the shield and drops to her feet every time

This is also what I think every time I see that page.

:spergin:

# ? Sep 22, 2015 20:08

Gaz-L: Jan 28, 2009

Yeah. If it worked the way that page says, Cap's shoulder would be dust. He's just a really strong dude, not Thor.

# ? Sep 22, 2015 20:22

Senor Candle: Nov 5, 2008

Gaz-L posted:

Yeah. If it worked the way that page says, Cap's shoulder would be dust. He's just a really strong dude, not Thor.

I always thought that the vibranium absorbed a large amount of the force, and caps enhanced strength allows him to endure the rest. That lady just being a regular person could not.

Heresiarch posted:

It works however the guy currently writing the book needs it to work to keep the story moving.

It is literally a plot device, like all superhero equipment.

True

Senor Candle fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Sep 22, 2015

# ? Sep 22, 2015 20:24

Heresiarch: Oct 6, 2005; Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

It works however the guy currently writing the book needs it to work to keep the story moving.

It is literally a plot device, like all superhero equipment.

# ? Sep 22, 2015 20:25

Toshimo: Aug 23, 2012; He's outta line...

But he's right!

Didn't 1 guy get to be Cap because the other 30 guys trying to catch the shield broke their arm/shoulder?

# ? Sep 22, 2015 20:27

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

Heresiarch posted:

It works however the guy currently writing the book needs it to work to keep the story moving.

It is literally a plot device, like all superhero equipment.

Sure, because if it absorbed all kinetic energy, it wouldn't hurt people when you hit them with it.

This does not stop me from :spergin:

, though.

# ? Sep 22, 2015 20:29

Keeshhound: Jan 14, 2010; Mad Duck Swagger

LawfulWaffle posted:

If Thunderball is so smart, you'd think he'd maybe give the chain a little more slack so it wraps around the shield to the soft target behind it, instead of hitting the indestructible shield over and over.

e: Terry Pratchett rules

He does make it pretty clear that he doesn't really want to kill her.

# ? Sep 22, 2015 20:36

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

If it absorbed all kinetic energy, it would also get REALLY hot.

# ? Sep 22, 2015 20:59

Lurdiak: Feb 26, 2006; I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.

Heresiarch posted:

It works however the guy currently writing the book needs it to work to keep the story moving.

It is literally a plot device, like all superhero equipment.