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the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
drat it. I need to either stop drinking or lock my bank account when I drink. Three packages showed up today. A eBay order of Snap-On screw drivers/misc tools. A pyrex cup for my Tig welder. And a set of vise jaws for my Wilton vise. I need NONE of these and the total was just under $260. I do need tires for our truck and now I get to put it off another paycheck because I'm an idiot.

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INCHI DICKARI
Aug 23, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Cakefool posted:

Deal with that loving avatar.

It could be worse

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

the spyder posted:

drat it. I need to either stop drinking or lock my bank account when I drink. Three packages showed up today. A eBay order of Snap-On screw drivers/misc tools. A pyrex cup for my Tig welder. And a set of vise jaws for my Wilton vise. I need NONE of these and the total was just under $260. I do need tires for our truck and now I get to put it off another paycheck because I'm an idiot.

It could be worse dude, coulda wasted that on hookers and blow.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

iwentdoodie posted:

I played:
Prince
Beasties Boys
Warrant
Smokey Robinson
Sleep
David Allen Coe
Prince
Prince
Beatles
Prince
Poison
Miles Davis

Then it got shut off

Edit: 1500 how much for the das boot not even joking

Sans Boston this is a solid list. Please, please start that mk2 GTI thread; I gotta live vicariously somehow.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

1500quidporsche posted:

Seriously are you my loving lost twin or something? My friend and I just did a TSD Rally in the Scirocco this weekend and had Prince blasting the majority of the time.

I think the record shop I found it at might have another copy. If I find it its yours for whatever it cost (think it was $10) plus shipping if you're serious.

Very serious. And I have ~20 Prince vinyls.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
.
Lawnmower shopping - Consumer Reports really likes Honda but all the user submitted reviews from people who have owned them 6 months + say they used to be good but are unreliable poo poo now. Anyone have experience in this area?

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Welp. Out of the 3 cars in the house...

2003 Avalon has something hosed in the electrical. Pretty positive it's a shorted cell in the battery, though it still cranks (... very slowly). Tonight all of the lights (inside and out) started going off and on, same with the radio and cluster, then started acting normal again. Parked it a bit, came back out, and the interior lights were on. Then turned off when I opened the door. Then came on when I started the car. Then went off and on several more times. Voltage while idling was 13.4, dropping quickly to <10V after being shut off. Battery was hissing too. :stare: I'm hoping it's just the battery, but no way am I getting near a hissing battery. I'll deal with that poo poo tomorrow.

2001 F-150 is shititng its transmission. Still drives for now, but anything below 45 mph = it downshifts into 2nd.

Mine just needs tires...

Darchangel posted:

There was a mounted grill in my back yard, and a gas line running down the wall from the soffit, but it's not connected in the attic. I assume it was supposed to run to the gas line where the stove and water heater connect. The line is still there - maybe I should get someone to hook that up for me again, and run a line to my propane grill. Do any mods have to be made to the grill? Orifices or something? I know propane != natural gas, necessarily.

SOME kind of adjustment has to be done, but I'm not sure what. I know propane has a higher energy density per cubic ft, but also tends to cost much more.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011

blk posted:

Lawnmower shopping - Consumer Reports really likes Honda but all the user submitted reviews from people who have owned them 6 months + say they used to be good but are unreliable poo poo now. Anyone have experience in this area?

Buy a Toro! Don't buy through a box store. There's a ton of great dealers around here and it's nearing end of season. You should be able to find a good deal on this-model-year leftovers. I do have a ~3 year old Honda and it's just OK. There's no way I would pay $449 for it again after looking over the equiviant Toro's.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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the spyder posted:

Buy a Toro! Don't buy through a box store. There's a ton of great dealers around here and it's nearing end of season. You should be able to find a good deal on this-model-year leftovers. I do have a ~3 year old Honda and it's just OK. There's no way I would pay $449 for it again after looking over the equiviant Toro's.

Which dealers do you like?

One of the features I really want is a washport - judging by photos, it looks like Hondas don't have those but some Toros do.

The biggest feature I want is never having to borrow my buddy's truck, lugging it into the bed and taking it to the shop because it doesn't work.

blk fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Sep 22, 2015

Mat_Drinks
Nov 18, 2002

mmm this nitromethane gets my supercharger runnin'
Is it coincidence that the VW news comes out and it seems like AI is eating itself alive or is the hive mind just reacting in the only way it knows how, with self abuse?


:ohdear:

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

blk posted:

Lawnmower shopping - Consumer Reports really likes Honda but all the user submitted reviews from people who have owned them 6 months + say they used to be good but are unreliable poo poo now. Anyone have experience in this area?

Remember that no one leaves reviews after 6 months to say everything is loving great. Go to any car forum and you'll find out that that car is the most unreliable POS when that is only true at VW and subaru forums.

corn in the fridge
Jan 15, 2012

by Shine
Im glad this thing happened to vw. Diesels in passenger cars are a massive scam anyway and your better off without them

corn in the fridge
Jan 15, 2012

by Shine
Although ironically they make much more practical sense in america than they do in europe oh well

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
It's the news that the VW "cheat" is simply part of the test mode that has caused me to lose respect for them. I believed it was actually a clever system that detected inputs/behaviour that showed the car was on the test cycle, and reacted accordingly.

To find that it's just, well, a switch, effectively, that runs a different map? That's a disappontingly simple solution, and as both Germans and engineers, they should feel bad.

bolind
Jun 19, 2005



Pillbug

InitialDave posted:

...and as both Germans and engineers, they should feel bad.

iDave, please never stop posting.

(Happened upon the chassis plates for your old landie last night in the basement. Gave me a good chuckle.)

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

IOwnCalculus posted:

That's a remarkably simple trigger, and one that the EPA can prevent from ever working again by doing all tests going forward on four-wheel dynos.

Do four wheel dynos have a linkage between the sets of rollers? Otherwise the second set will still be zero.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

InitialDave posted:

It's the news that the VW "cheat" is simply part of the test mode that has caused me to lose respect for them. I believed it was actually a clever system that detected inputs/behaviour that showed the car was on the test cycle, and reacted accordingly.

To find that it's just, well, a switch, effectively, that runs a different map? That's a disappontingly simple solution, and as both Germans and engineers, they should feel bad.

After seeing that it pretty much used the "front wheels moving, rear wheels stopped = emissions test mode," I'm wondering if

a) VW has done that on other models/engines and/or

b) Other manufacturers have done the same thing, it just hasn't come to light?

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher
gently caress 2015.

That's all

Friar Zucchini
Aug 6, 2010

I'd make the argument that the very fact that it's a laboratory test alone means that the system is fundamentally broken. If they want to estimate how cars do in the real world, actually test them in the real world. That way when car makers try to game the system, they accidentally improve IRL fuel consumption. Hire drivers to drive every new car around all day long for like two weeks, just chilling and driving like normal people drive, with a prudent mix of traffic variety, and do some dirt simple math with distance driven and fuel consumed, and you're done. One of the car magazines has a deal with some fuel company where they do just that, with a standard fuel mix and a standard driving route to minimize variables that might skew data, but it's not the guvmint so it's not *official*.

Friar Zucchini fucked around with this message at 12:31 on Sep 22, 2015

Super Aggro Crag
Apr 23, 2008




And, of course as always, kill Hitler.


Rhyno posted:

It could be worse dude, coulda wasted that on hookers and blow.

How is that worse?

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

gently caress 2015.

That's all

What happened? :ohdear:

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

gently caress 2015.

That's all


meatpimp posted:

What happened? :ohdear:

Seconded. Motion passed. What's happen Cat man?

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

meatpimp posted:

After seeing that it pretty much used the "front wheels moving, rear wheels stopped = emissions test mode," I'm wondering if

a) VW has done that on other models/engines and/or

b) Other manufacturers have done the same thing, it just hasn't come to light?

At least (a) is confirmed:

quote:

"Further internal investigations have shown that the software concerned is also installed in other diesel vehicles," VW said in a statement.

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot
This is VW thing one huge loving can of worms. I wonder if the EPA is going to be more stringent on all car makers now.

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

German officer Johannes Bolter peeks out the hatch of his Tiger I heavy tank during a quiet moment before the Battle of Kursk - c:1943 (colorized)
Slippery Tilde
At this stage they pretty much have to introduce a test that consists of "several hours of driving on an unspecified assortment of city, interstate and rural roads, while logging the output of emissions sensors attached to the exhaust outlet" to sanity-check emissions numbers - it's hard to game that, though you can't really set a hard limit for it so it would have to be something like "within 20% of spec based on distance travelled and fuel consumed" as mentioned above

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Friar Zucchini posted:

I'd make the argument that the very fact that it's a laboratory test alone means that the system is fundamentally broken. If they want to estimate how cars do in the real world, actually test them in the real world. That way when car makers try to game the system, they accidentally improve IRL fuel consumption. Hire drivers to drive every new car around all day long for like two weeks, just chilling and driving like normal people drive, with a prudent mix of traffic variety, and do some dirt simple math with distance driven and fuel consumed, and you're done. One of the car magazines has a deal with some fuel company where they do just that, with a standard fuel mix and a standard driving route to minimize variables that might skew data, but it's not the guvmint so it's not *official*.

There are plenty of problems with testing methodologies and whatnot; however, being able to control for as many variables is important when doing A/B testing. It's not perfect or will 100% reflect "real world" uses, but a part of any decent testing regiment is to find deficiencies in the testing procedures and work to fix them.

Beverly Cleavage
Jun 22, 2004

I am a pretty pretty princess, watch me do my pretty princess dance....

Phone posted:

There are plenty of problems with testing methodologies and whatnot; however, being able to control for as many variables is important when doing A/B testing. It's not perfect or will 100% reflect "real world" uses, but a part of any decent testing regiment is to find deficiencies in the testing procedures and work to fix them.

what do you think this is? ISO9000?

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

ssjonizuka posted:

what do you think this is? ISO9000?

THIS IS THE WAY WE ALWAYS DONE IT YOU GOT A PROBLEM MAN!?!?!

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

Boaz MacPhereson posted:

Holy poo poo, that's pretty impressive. At least mine's all GM. Not that that's necessarily a good thing...

I had Genuine GM parts in mine too. I miscounted though, 10 different marques but only 16 different models. I'm probably forgetting some stuff though.

91-94 Escort GT: Block, crank, rods, oil pan, water pump, front brakes, outer tie rod ends
BG Protege: top end, main bearing brace plate (the Escorts didn't get that), oil cooler, MAF
NB Miata: Pistons (mo squish mo powah), oil pump
BF 323: Transmission, axles, flywheel and clutch
some random old BMW: air cleaner
Ford Aspire: front steering knuckles, sway bar, rear beam axle, brakes and struts
1st gen Kia Rio: front struts
Mk2 Golf: Summer wheels
B14 Sentra: winter wheels
FC RX7: seats, shift knob
Civic: shift lever
FB RX7: steering wheel
Mk3 Toyota pickup: headlight buckets for 7" round sealed beams
Isuzu Stylus: front bumper cover
92 Tercel: rear bumper cover
'00 Silverado: radio, modified to remote-mount the display where the factory Festiva clock goes, and the knobs went to a switch blank on the left side of the column, the main PCB lived in the dash above the glove box

SuperDucky
May 13, 2007

by exmarx

1500quidporsche posted:

Seriously are you my loving lost twin or something? My friend and I just did a TSD Rally in the Scirocco this weekend and had Prince blasting the majority of the time.

:j: Don't you just love prince?
:agesilaus: More than life itself. ...Vivian, I have a business proposition for you...

(I loving hate Prince but I love Pretty Woman)

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

I always admired the Festiva. It was the plucky little car that almost always got overlooked or was assumed to be Korean.

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

1500quidporsche posted:

I always admired the Festiva. It was the plucky little car that almost always got overlooked or was assumed to be Korean.

It is literally a Kia though. But it was from the era where Kias were direct knockoffs of Mazda products- it wasn't until Kia started loving around with Mazda's blueprints to make them their own that they got terrible (like my Sportage: mostly a Mazda Bongo Van but literally every part not common to the van is terrible)

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Yeah my understanding was that it was a Mazda design, assembled by Kia and sold as a Ford. I do remember the interior having a distinct Kia feel though.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

1500quidporsche posted:

Yeah my understanding was that it was a Mazda design, assembled by Kia and sold as a Ford. I do remember the interior having a distinct Kia feel though.
As if its design were contracted out to Fisher-Price?

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

I had a '97 Kia Sephia which I bought for $800 because it was a BG chassis and had a BP, ran like a top and was a really fun car but the interior was poo poo, and Kia felt the need to make the brakes and suspension their own which was 3x times the cost of the Mazda stuff so I couldn't really justify putting any money into it since the interior was basically disintegrating. So I sold it and got a Miata :v:

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

1500quidporsche posted:

Yeah my understanding was that it was a Mazda design, assembled by Kia and sold as a Ford. I do remember the interior having a distinct Kia feel though.

Yep. And being basically the most readily available, cheapest and lightest '90s Mazda they're by far the most fun thing to play Mazda legos with. I barely even scratched the surface of the sort of crazy poo poo you can accomplish with these things (mainly because I went about it the hard way). And with a few simple tricks they can be ridiculously competent on the track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFOtP0wnXVY This car has a stock Capri XR2 B6T, making a thundering 130hp. Car the camera's in is a C6.

Turbo Fondant fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Sep 22, 2015

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


T-Square posted:

Tonight I went on an awesome date, with an awesome chick I've never met before, and we just drank beers and talked for like three hours and it was awesome. :kimchi:

Also, I will probably be hungover all day tomorrow. Worth it.
:3: Sleep and soberness are over rated. Had an awesome date Thursday night drinking cocktails and talking. About half way through the night she looked at me funny and asked if I had heard of Something Awful...shes a goon

blk posted:

Lawnmower shopping - Consumer Reports really likes Honda but all the user submitted reviews from people who have owned them 6 months + say they used to be good but are unreliable poo poo now. Anyone have experience in this area?
I bought a Husqvarna this spring, it's been great. Runs great, starts right up and mows grass.

InitialDave posted:

To find that it's just, well, a switch, effectively, that runs a different map? That's a disappointingly simple solution, and as both Germans and engineers, they should feel bad.
I was kind of disappointed too. I mean they're German they should be over complicating the poo poo out of it not going oh it's in test mode lets run a different map. Bet they're wishing they would have put aside more money though, apparently they put aside $7 billion or something to deal with the fallout.

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

gently caress 2015.

That's all
No, it's too early in the year for this poo poo. You ok man?


Day two on site...I still don't have accounts, training or permission to get on any of the systems :bang:

NitroSpazzz fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Sep 22, 2015

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

NitroSpazzz posted:

No, it's too early in the year for this poo poo. You ok man?

its september

shy boy from chess club
Jun 11, 2008

It wasnt that bad, after you left I got to help put out the fire!

NitroSpazzz posted:

I bought a Husqvarna this spring, it's been great. Runs great, starts right up and mows grass.

Lawnmower man chiming in here to agree with this. I just got one two years ago for work and its an insanely great mower. It has a Honda engine but they make a great engine, starts on one pull every time and uses just a tiny amount of gas compared to my old briggs powered mower.

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Jun 20, 2011
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