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So got to do Alexander normal today - seemed pretty neat. Dig the mechanical theme and love the minimal trash mob thing. A4's room looks sick as hell and the quarantine mechanic was pretty cool. Judging from what I understand about Crystal Tower, future patches will add new "wings" to Alexander? But not 3.1? Do the 24 man raids follow the same formula of basically no trash and a completely queue-able normal mode?
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Oxyclean posted:So got to do Alexander normal today - seemed pretty neat. Dig the mechanical theme and love the minimal trash mob thing. A4's room looks sick as hell and the quarantine mechanic was pretty cool. Judging from what I understand about Crystal Tower, future patches will add new "wings" to Alexander? But not 3.1? The 24-mans only have queueable normal mode, no hard mode. The last two both went trash boss trash boss trash boss boss, with each set of trash being one pull in a big room.
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Oxyclean posted:So got to do Alexander normal today - seemed pretty neat. Dig the mechanical theme and love the minimal trash mob thing. A4's room looks sick as hell and the quarantine mechanic was pretty cool. Judging from what I understand about Crystal Tower, future patches will add new "wings" to Alexander? But not 3.1? If it follows previous patterns, we'll see four more floors of Alexander in patch 3.2, at an escalated gear level and difficulty, right along with a new kind of tomestone. Then again in 3.4. Alexander is the Coil of 3.X, not the Crystal Tower. Void Ark is the first (?) installment of Heavensward's Crystal Tower equivalent. 24 people, probably a little easier than Alexander Normal with no precise tankswaps or anything, I would expect the gear it drops to be i200.
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Sep 23, 2015 05:12
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ilifinicus posted:suffering from the questies is an ailment you should try to cure Why would I pick up quests loads lower level than my main class? Like I know some people do that but if I get to an area and there's some level 15 quests around and I'm level 25 (like the Gold Saucer one) I'm not going to get it.
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kafziel posted:I would expect the gear it drops to be i200. Along with items to upgrade the esoterics tomestone gear to i210. e:V It already exists in the game but only from Alex Savage, like how the soldiery and poetics upgrade gear was in Coil before it got put in CT. Hopefully it'd be in the Void Ark though. Ignimbrite fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Sep 23, 2015 |
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Sep 23, 2015 06:30
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Ignimbrite posted:Along with items to upgrade the esoterics tomestone gear to i210. Don't they add that after the next patch
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Sep 23, 2015 06:32
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Ignimbrite posted:Along with items to upgrade the esoterics tomestone gear to i210. Definitely hope so, because all I really want from this game at this point is being able to dye my AF2.
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Sep 23, 2015 06:53
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Taear posted:Why would I pick up quests loads lower level than my main class? Like I know some people do that but if I get to an area and there's some level 15 quests around and I'm level 25 (like the Gold Saucer one) I'm not going to get it. There's no reason not to pick up every quest you see, other than your quest log limit.
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Sep 23, 2015 06:59
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Them being a tremendous waste of time, inefficient experience and clutter in your quest log is reason enough really.
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Sep 23, 2015 07:35
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Daniel posted:Them being a tremendous waste of time, inefficient experience and clutter in your quest log is reason enough really. Also, Hildebrand is a side quest. Hildebrand is not any of the above things.
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Sep 23, 2015 07:46
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Hildibrand, Gold Saucer and things that unlock challenge logs/the hairdresser dude are of course all worth doing. I suppose the trick is to know which quests lead to the good stuff. The first time I levelled a character it was before the experience buffs, so there were times when it came down to either doing FATEs for hours on end or alleviating some of that dire monotony by clearing any quests I could find. Now if I'm levelling a character, doing those quests would probably double the amount of time it took to level. If I can't remember which quest leads to a game feature I'd google it. This tact does require some prior knowledge of the game, unfortunately.
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Sep 23, 2015 07:52
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Daniel posted:Them being a tremendous waste of time You're playing an MMO, your time is worthless. 
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I don't really find that to be a compelling argument
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Sep 23, 2015 08:01
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When I was leveling my second 60 I'd do quests while waiting for queues because why not.
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Sep 23, 2015 08:04
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I guess it's really about how much FATE grinding you can stomach, because doing FATEs in that time is going to be a lot better for you in terms of experience but it's certainly a lot more tedious and I wouldn't begrudge someone going down a questing rabbithole for a while instead
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Daniel posted:I guess it's really about how much FATE grinding you can stomach, because doing FATEs in that time is going to be a lot better for you in terms of experience but it's certainly a lot more tedious and I wouldn't begrudge someone going down a questing rabbithole for a while instead It's pretty easy to go through the game doing quests, dungeons as you unlock them, and nearly never doing FATEs unless Lightning happens to be hanging out. Why ever FATE grind?? If you don't have to grind.
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Sep 23, 2015 08:22
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Because even on your first 60, you're either going to have to grind FATEs, dungeons, or quests.
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Sep 23, 2015 08:24
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I have been playing this game since launch day and there are a shitton of quests I haven't done. I'm an rear end breath away from my fourth level 60. gently caress questing.
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Sep 23, 2015 08:48
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Boten Anna posted:gently caress questing.
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Sep 23, 2015 09:58
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ignoring questing is fine if you know what you are doing if you're a new player you do not know what you are doing, so
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Even if you don't care about the quests, a good chunk of them are significantly faster than fates at the same level range and give basically the same experience plus gold and sometimes gear/items that are useful. Like I don't give a poo poo about the Doman adventurer's club, but the quests were fast as hell by skipping the cutscenes and I got a good chunk of experience for an off class with them. Its really handy when a patch comes out and you don't have to actually look for any quests because your map isn't filled with them as well.
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Sep 23, 2015 12:51
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Mr. Nice! posted:I don't give a poo poo about the Doman adventurer's club Jesus Christ.
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You do realize the Doman adventurer's club has its very own section in the quest log, same as Hildibrand, right? Which suggests it's going to be a new ongoing "side story and funny cutscenes for the sake of side story and funny cutscenes" thing. Probably not replacing Hildibrand (Yoshi-P would probably not want riots) but certainly supplementing him at the very least. Doing those quests and skipping the cutscenes is like doing the Hildibrand quests and skipping the cutscenes, aka a Bad Idea.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Like I don't give a poo poo about the Doman adventurer's club, but the quests were fast as hell by skipping the cutscenes and I got a good chunk of experience for an off class with them. You loving monster.
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Sep 23, 2015 14:52
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What's the Doman Adventure's club?
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Sep 23, 2015 15:00
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A level 57 or somesuch quest chain in Mor Dhona.
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Truga posted:A level 57 or somesuch quest chain in Mor Dhona. 54. You help a bunch of teenage domans recover a book stolen by some lalas. And I watched a little bit of it but it's just dumb. I just can't find it in me whatsoever to give a drat about it.
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As a soon-to-be 60 WHM that started playing this game after HW came out: What is the Challenge Log? What is the Golden Saucer? I can DYE my gear?! I have done virtually zero side quests, seeing as the main story took me to 55 without me needing to do anything else (i did the daily dungeon leveling roulette though) I really enjoy this game but i have never seen an MMO so bad at explaining features or introducing you to side content like the stuff mentioned above.
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John Dyne posted:e: poo poo and there's two dungeons I haven't unlocked cause they were side quests. I did the same thing but fortunately the quest was literally "talk to this guy then talk to him again." As far as quests go, I agree with "do all the quests" but I'm also not going to waste my time doing one that I outlevel by a bunch when I'm trying to get to 50 (and after that, 60), and also when I can change my level to something more appropriate (which also keeps me from just chain running dungeons and FATES to level). I'll generally pick up side quests that are in the same area as the MSQs I'm doing but once my level starts getting higher than them (and especially once the MSQ sends me to another area) I'm not staying around to do the rest of them.
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IcePhoenix posted:I did the same thing but fortunately the quest was literally "talk to this guy then talk to him again." Whizbang posted:You're playing an MMO, your time is worthless.
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IcePhoenix posted:I did the same thing but fortunately the quest was literally "talk to this guy then talk to him again." Yeah, I still have a boatload of 1-15 quests sitting around in Limsa and Thanalan. Doing a mix of dungeons, fates, MSQ, and questing never left me wanting for XP on my first 50. Why would I run across Ul'dah to talk to an npc for 300xp at 40+? Oh and I had no idea the doman kids thing existed because what cues you in to ever go back at 54? There's cool HW stuff to explore, I'm not going back to mor dhona.
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Avynte posted:Yeah, I still have a boatload of 1-15 quests sitting around in Limsa and Thanalan. Doing a mix of dungeons, fates, MSQ, and questing never left me wanting for XP on my first 50. Why would I run across Ul'dah to talk to an npc for 300xp at 40+? The main story quest sends you to mor dhona and the quests all unlock when you're there. A bunch of new quest icons popped up on your map and in your recommendations. I'm not saying that you need to do a level 15 quest on your level 59 job. However, there are a ton of combat classes that you need to level for cross class skills, etc, and those little dick around quests add up very quick especially considering you can snag up a ton and complete them simultaneously. For example, each new class quest has you go kill some level 1-3 monsters outside a major city. There are quests from NPCs in those same cities that have you killing the same mobs. You can do them all in one fell swoop.
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Mr. Nice! posted:The main story quest sends you to mor dhona and the quests all unlock when you're there. A bunch of new quest icons popped up on your map and in your recommendations. Ah well that was my fault then. I must have overlooked it in the release rush to push to 60.
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Avynte posted:Oh and I had no idea the doman kids thing existed because what cues you in to ever go back at 54? There's cool HW stuff to explore, I'm not going back to mor dhona. You capped poetics again and went to mor dhona to cash them in. Next to the NPC, there's a non-repeatable quest there. I wonder what it might be! That's how I found it anyway.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I'm not saying that you need to do a level 15 quest on your level 59 job. However, there are a ton of combat classes that you need to level for cross class skills, etc, and those little dick around quests add up very quick especially considering you can snag up a ton and complete them simultaneously. For example, each new class quest has you go kill some level 1-3 monsters outside a major city. There are quests from NPCs in those same cities that have you killing the same mobs. You can do them all in one fell swoop. But the point is that people will leave quests behind for this exact reason. Sometimes those quests happen to unlock important stuff.
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The fact that I even need to do a quest to unlock something like the Challenge Log instead of it just being a thing I get at level 15 or 20 or whatever is dumb as hell in the first place. Same with the dungeons outside the MSQ not just showing up in the duty finder when I hit the appropriate level (especially since at least two of them are literally unlocked by talking to a guy, no actual quest involved).
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IcePhoenix posted:The fact that I even need to do a quest to unlock something like the Challenge Log instead of it just being a thing I get at level 15 or 20 or whatever is dumb as hell in the first place. The unlock dungeons could just show up in the duty finder with a padlock and just say "you need to complete <quest> to unlock" the same way some of the roulettes will show up before you can do them and inform you of the unlock requirements.
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