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gently caress Martin Devlin, a man not willing to step up when the country needed him
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Sep 23, 2015 00:58
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poo poo, better get onto spinning Red Peak so the Greens don't get the credit if it wins.
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Sep 23, 2015 03:29
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Will probably vote for the lovely Koru and then against change. Red Peak flat-out sucks.
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Sep 23, 2015 04:33
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Amen.
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Sep 23, 2015 04:41
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Red Peak does indeed suck, but it's weirdly gratifying to have the PM actually listen to the people. Is this what it feels like to live in an actual democracy? I could get used to it.
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Sep 23, 2015 05:24
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Enjoy those scraps from the master's table.
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Sep 23, 2015 05:29
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Vulpes posted:the PM actually listen to the people. Hahahaha
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Sep 23, 2015 07:09
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Ghostlight posted:Enjoy those scraps from the master's table.
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Sep 23, 2015 07:11
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I will be voting for red peak because its better than our current flag. I'd also vote for hypnoflag or white/black fern over our current flag.
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Sep 23, 2015 07:34
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Vulpes posted:Red Peak does indeed suck, but it's weirdly gratifying to have the PM actually listen to the people. Is this what it feels like to live in an actual democracy? I could get used to it. If only he listened to the general public about : Asset sales, GCB spying, the TPPA, or any other thing that actually matters, instead of the loving flag.
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Sep 23, 2015 07:44
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Sep 23, 2015 09:22
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can't please everyone
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Sep 23, 2015 09:23
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I am so disappointed because I actually wanted a flag change. But all the options we get are laughably ugly. I'll probably vote for hypnoflag because it's better than our current flag (but it's still ugly, god drat) and hope that someone's stupid enough to change it again in a few years. Not gonna happen though. Also, I don't understand the massive wave of support that red peak got. It's at best an okay flag, but why did it draw so many supporters compared to say the Hundertwasser or the Maori flag? Just really good campaigning? Or just how bad the other options were? (was this JK's plan all along???) Laverna fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Sep 23, 2015 |
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Sep 23, 2015 09:31
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Laverna posted:but why did it draw so many supporters compared to say the Hundertwasser or the Maori flag? Neither of which were in the long list* so were never an option anyway. *after modern hundertwasser was withdrawn due to copyright.
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Sep 23, 2015 09:40
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good timing
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Sep 23, 2015 09:40
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Laverna posted:Also, I don't understand the massive wave of support that red peak got. It's at best an okay flag, but why did it draw so many supporters compared to say the Hundertwasser or the Maori flag? it has a story, and it's a good design
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Sep 23, 2015 09:41
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Exclamation Marx posted:good timing A mac and a poo poo flag
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Sep 23, 2015 09:47
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Laverna posted:Or just how bad the other options were? Think you hit the nail on the head there. Personally I hate all the options but the red peak is at least passable as a flag. The fern is alright for sports and whta not but god dam the blue in the "black and blue fern" looks like its the default blue in MSpaint and is just horrible.
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Sep 23, 2015 09:50
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 hmm, looks like nz first is supporting a change of flag now? e: l m a o 
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Sep 23, 2015 10:10
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Red peak looks like a crap flag, but at least it looks like a flag. gently caress changing it though. Change the flag when you change the country in some fundamental way.
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Sep 23, 2015 10:40
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Laverna posted:
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Sep 23, 2015 10:42
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Slavvy posted:Red peak looks like a crap flag, but at least it looks like a flag. Selling it all off to China and selling the law making to America is a pretty fundamental change!
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Sep 23, 2015 10:46
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Varkk posted:I think Red Peak was the one being pushed by Gareth Morgan and he may have used his connections and spent some of his money to create the appearance of a grass roots campaign. Nah but it's similar
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Sep 23, 2015 10:46
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I see red peak basically as a reaction to the god loving awful job that the selection panel did. Its really likely to win I think, the question is would you vote for it over current one?
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Sep 23, 2015 11:35
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fong posted:I see red peak basically as a reaction to the god loving awful job that the selection panel did. Its really likely to win I think, the question is would you vote for it over current one? I think a Lockwood will win because of preference flows, but I'd 100% support 🚩 over 🇳🇿
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Sep 23, 2015 11:40
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Six bad flags.
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Sep 23, 2015 12:12
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Dragonstoned posted:Think you hit the nail on the head there. I don't really like the blue in any of them. That blue in flags is too common and I was really hoping our new flag would get away from the colonial colours. Exclamation Marx posted:it has a story, and it's a good design Any flag could theoretically have a story though, and still look better than that. But I get what you mean, having the story makes it seems less commercial and artificial than those horrible fern flags. Taitale posted:Neither of which were in the long list* so were never an option anyway. The red peak wasn't in the short list, so if rules are being stretched either way...? I never actually took a good look at the long list, I wonder if there actually were any there I would have liked. (Edit: Oh Wow. Every single one of those is terrible. Literally every single one. The only okay ones were the blue hypnoflag, the matariki stars and... red peak. And they're still bad. I used to like the silver fern as an option but I think these shitferns have spoiled me towards it. We never had a chance to begin with, it was doomed from the start. drat the hundertwasser foundation for banning our only good option!) fong posted:I see red peak basically as a reaction to the god loving awful job that the selection panel did. Its really likely to win I think, the question is would you vote for it over current one? That's what really gets me about this, as awful as all of these flags are I am really not fond of our current one. It is the 6th terrible option. Laverna fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Sep 23, 2015 |
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Sep 23, 2015 15:53
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I am more fond of Red Peak for the stickinjg-it-to-Key aspect than anything else, it's a poo poo flag otherwise. Will vote Koru and then no change, and possibly mutter death to America while I'm at it.
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Sep 24, 2015 00:42
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Midget Fist posted:I am more fond of Red Peak for the stickinjg-it-to-Key aspect than anything else, it's a poo poo flag otherwise. Will vote Koru and then no change, and possibly mutter death to America while I'm at it.  sticking it to key only works if the flag doesn't change. He's already won.
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Sep 24, 2015 01:15
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Red Peak is actually a good flag. It's distinctive, simple, inclusive, has a story and can have meaning beyond that story as seen by all the varying interpretations seen online. It functions as a flag that can be seen and recognised from a distance. It's a combination of the Tino Rangatiratanga flag and the Union Jack. It may look boring or not immediately make you think 'gently caress, that's amazing' but seriously, it's a flag. Look at the other flags of the world and how often does that reaction occur. It's the best outcome we could get given the shittiness of the committee-led process.
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Sep 24, 2015 02:48
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Midget Fist posted:I am more fond of Red Peak for the stickinjg-it-to-Key aspect than anything else, it's a poo poo flag otherwise. Will vote Koru and then no change, and possibly mutter death to America while I'm at it. Sticking it to Key means voting Red Peak in Part 1, then voting to retain the current flag in Part 2. Red Peak winning Part 1 means the Flag Consideration Panel or whatever the hell it's called did a crap job. Keeping the flag in Part 2 tells Key he's gone through this whole process against the interest of the public. I'll probably vote Red Peak in both (if it gets to the second one), because it's an actual proper flag design rather than the stupid Lockwood flags. Random Fact: when South Africa were selecting their flag, the final result was just an interim design because the submissions were crap "The choice of a new flag was part of the negotiation process set in motion when Nelson Mandela was released from prison in 1990. When a nationwide public competition was held in 1993, the National Symbols Commission received more than 7,000 designs. Six designs were drawn up and presented to the public and the Negotiating Council, but none elicited enthusiastic support. A number of design studios were contacted to submit further proposals, but they were again without success. Parliament went into recess at the end of 1993 without a suitable candidate for the new national flag." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_South_Africa#1994_flag
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Sep 24, 2015 02:50
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spanky the dolphin posted:can have meaning beyond that story
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Sep 24, 2015 02:50
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I would vote for Red Peak if they got rid of that godawful blue.
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Sep 24, 2015 02:54
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Sep 24, 2015 02:59
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spanky the dolphin posted:Red Peak is actually a good flag. It's distinctive, simple, inclusive, has a story and can have meaning beyond that story as seen by all the varying interpretations seen online. It functions as a flag that can be seen and recognised from a distance. It's a combination of the Tino Rangatiratanga flag and the Union Jack. It has a story that isn't immediately obvious and the varying interpretations of it online aren't exactly something I'd count as being in its favour. Tame Iti's bare bum has a stronger cultural narrative than Red Peak.
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Sep 24, 2015 03:52
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Butt Wizard posted:It has a story that isn't immediately obvious and the varying interpretations of it online aren't exactly something I'd count as being in its favour. Tame Iti's bare bum has a stronger cultural narrative than Red Peak. Maybe so - but the same can be said of lots of other world flags too. The South African flag has symbolism in its shapes that aren't immediately obvious.
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Sep 24, 2015 04:10
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Ok so tell me what kind of story is immediately obvious from: [black stripe] [red stripe] [yellow stripe] Or: WHITE red dot FIELD Which is not to say I'm defending red peak, it's just miles better than the cereal packet logo garbage we're having to choose from.
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Sep 24, 2015 04:11
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the rangi-papa symbolism is extremely obvious
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Sep 24, 2015 04:14
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If you are unable to draw narratives from coloured shapes then clearly you do not art properly.
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Sep 24, 2015 04:18
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The Red Peak is great. Raise the fifth flag!
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