Uncle Wemus posted:

Blistex posted:

Do all Corellian males wear the exact same outfit that Han does? I want to know how far down the "every character a race" rabbit-hole goes?

david... posted:

actually no its the all smugglers wear that outfit

Xenomrph posted:

while the Rogue books focus on Corran Horn, the biggest Mary Sue in the EU. Better pilot than Wedge, star investigator who unravels a massive Imperial plot that no one else could figure out, irresistible to every woman he encounters (and of course he marries the hot chick), oh and did I mention that he's Force sensitive and becomes a Jedi badass?
poo poo, I can't even name any of the other Rogue pilots in the Stackpole books other than Wedge, Tycho, and Gavin.

Blistex posted:

Do all Corellian males wear the exact same outfit that Han does? I want to know how far down the "every character a race" rabbit-hole goes?

Cyberball 2072 posted:

and her hi-larious sadistic droid companions. Its got that hosed up thing where you know its real dumb but youre still entertained anyway.


That fucker shoulda been thrown out airlock somewhere, he is loving things up in about 90% of the Eu books I've read. As nice as the new republic is you think even they would have hit a point where theyre like, "this Borsk Fey'lya rear end in a top hat ruins loving everything, lets drop him off on Hoth with just a sleeping bag and tell him to start hiking and get hosed."

It'd be like if there were 50 ghostbusters books and Walter Peck from the EPA showed up in every loving book. In the last book they proved him wrong and embarrassed him in front of all his friends and associates but somehow the government keeps putting him in positions to cock things up. Oh gently caress, Peck got a legal order to turn off the ghost containment unit for the 39th loving time, that's the Borsk Fey'lya character.

Blistex posted:

Do all Corellian males wear the exact same outfit that Han does? I want to know how far down the "every character a race" rabbit-hole goes?

Chasiubao posted:

Holy poo poo I always thought this was some magic space name with a weird pronunciation, not Jason

Tender Bender posted:

Worse than Corran's may sue nature is that every character in Stackpole's books speaks in the same voice, they all stand around monologuing at each other and exchanging dry witty retorts all day long.

Groovelord Neato posted:

is he the reason we know the manufacturer of every ship when that is completely worthless information.

Sammus posted:

See: Lando on the millennium falcon.

Groovelord Neato posted:

is he the reason we know the manufacturer of every ship when that is completely worthless information.

Blistex posted:

I assumed he didn't bring a change of clothes. Hell, one guy fleeing cloud city took a loving ice cream maker.

Jeff Sichoe posted:

I used to masturbate to leia in that one bit in that one movie where she is getting jabbed by that freaky torture bot

pretty swit bra

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

That was the central computer core and he has his own action figure.

SaltLick posted:

I thought it was Jay-seen because i was an idiot fucker

Xenomrph posted:

The best Wedge book is Starfighters of Adumar, it's seriously hilarious.

The Wraith books are way better than the Rogue books because the Wraith books are ensemble books with fun characters, while the Rogue books focus on Corran Horn, the biggest Mary Sue in the EU. Better pilot than Wedge, star investigator who unravels a massive Imperial plot that no one else could figure out, irresistible to every woman he encounters (and of course he marries the hot chick), oh and did I mention that he's Force sensitive and becomes a Jedi badass?

Blistex posted:

I assumed he didn't bring a change of clothes. Hell, one guy fleeing cloud city took a loving ice cream maker.

Otisburg posted:

George Lucas quite naturally believes that he wrote "Starwars", when, in reality, he was told telepathically what to write in the original first three Episodes (4-6), by the very "Force" to which the films refer, and was "forced" to make only episodes 4-6, first, as a very important step in the preparation of mankind for the long-awaited TRUTH, about the real reasons for human life on Earth ("what on earth am I doing here?"), the meaning of life and its purpose, contained in "The Way home or face The Fire", from which episodes 1-3 should have been made, as I did my best, frequently, to tell him.

Unfortunately George Lucas has exercised his "Free-will"; ignored me and made Episode 1 - "The Phantom Menace"; with arrogant actors who publicly ridicule the real message and the real fans, which undermines the original theme and Divine Message; contradicts it and is mere fiction (lies), telepathically fed to him by the Dark-side force (Satan), to try to confuse everyone and undo the good (God's) message contained in the earlier three films (Episodes 4-6). This is Satan's standard-practice and very predictable. He has done it with the Old Testament; New Testament and Koran and the three major religions who claim to be based on them.

Not understanding that he was being told telepathically, Lucas thinks that "Starwars" came from his imagination, which is a perfectly normal human reaction that many people have had over the centuries. Rudyard Kipling thought that he wrote "IF"; Oscar Wilde thought that he wrote "The Picture of Dorian Gray"; Joe Darion thought he wrote the words to "The Impossible Dream"; Steven Spielberg thinks he wrote "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" and the list is endless.

Although "Starwars" (Episodes 4-6) is set as science-fiction and in a distant galaxy to make it entertaining, it actually refers to this galaxy and life on Earth.

There actually was a REAL star war thousands of human years ago, in this galaxy, on the "Morning Star" [Venus] (Revelation 12 v 7; 22 v 16; Isaiah 14 v 12 in the king James Authorised Version of the Bible [which was the ONLY translation worth reading until the new "King of kings' Bible" was completed]); (Koran sura 6:76 and 86:1-4) and you were ALL on the losing side.

It is IMPERATIVE that I say, at this point, that the "Star" of Bethlehem was a SPACESHIP and that God and Christ are aliens and the Books known to you as the Old Testament; New Testament and Koran are NOT religious Books in the way that you all think of religion today. These Books are a guide/map sent by the "Force" from the Morning Star and which have been taken and used; abused and mis-interpreted by the various Religious Organisations for their own material benefit.

In the film, "O.B.1 - Kanobi" tells Luke Skywalker about the "Force" and describes it as a good energy field that gives a JEDI his power and which surrounds us, penetrates us and binds the galaxy (Universe in reality) together ("love thy neighbour") and he goes on to say that it is created by all Living things and that Life makes it grow, which is repeated later on by YODA.

In fact, the "Force" Itself is the source and Creator of Life and it is Love (not sex) that makes it grow. This small mistake about the creation of Life and the "Force" is the only mistake that O.B.1 and YODA make and everything else that they say about the "Force" and how to use it are perfectly correct.

O.B.1 tells Skywalker that he must learn The Way of the "Force" and how to use the "Force" so that he can help others and Luke replies that he has work to do and that he hates evil, but there is nothing he can do about it, which reflects and symbolises almost everyone on Earth's attitude and reply.

Once Luke has lost his human family and all his material possessions, which are the things that bind him to the Earth and he has "nothing to lose" except his human life, he decides to learn to "use the Force" and fight to put the world right, symbolising what the Disciples did (Luke 18 v 28-30).

The demonstration, where O.B.1 tells the storm-troopers that they do not need to see Luke's identification and that he can move along and go about his business demonstrating that the "Force" can have a strong effect on the weak-minded, actually works, but it works telepathically via the "Force", not with spoken words. It is done with words in the film because it cannot be shown telepathically on a film-screen.

The coffee-bar full of weird creatures symbolises many of the places you have been yourselves, full of "creatures of the night", not all of whom are really bad, but where some boast of their evil deeds and fighting ability and who pick fights with you for no reason.

Luke starts to learn to use the "Force," firstly trying to use his human eyes, then later whilst wearing a helmet with the "blast-shield" down (Ephesians 6 v 17) so that he cannot see, symbolising "blind-faith".

Xenomrph posted:

I used to be like that, I made it a point to buy every Star Wars comic, novel, videogame, sourcebook, whatever, just to be "a completist". Over time it got to be too difficult/expensive to keep up with everything that was coming out - I know I bought a ton of the books following the end of the New Jedi Order (the Swarm War trilogy, and like all of that 15-book mega-event that came after that) and didn't read a single one of them because to be totally honest my interest in Star Wars was really waning. I didn't buy any of the Fate of the Jedi books because at that point I'd wised up. I just didn't care anymore, and to be honest it's kinda difficult to articulate why I cared so much in the first place.

Finally one day I was looking at all of my Star Wars poo poo and realized that I didn't care about the vast majority of it, and everything else I was never going to read again and was just taking up space. So I sold off like all of the books except for the few I cared about and I knew I'd read again (the X-wing books, the short story anthologies), all of the video games except the ones I cared about (the X-wing/TIE Fighter series, Rogue Squadron series), all of the comics except the ones I gave a poo poo about (the Rogue Squadron ones - noticing a pattern? - and the Tales of the Jedi stuff) and freed up a ton of room in my house.

And then Lucasfilm went and said everything was non-canon anyway lol
But I don't care, I re-read the X-wing comics and books because they're fun to read and I like Star Wars starfighters dogfighting and blowing poo poo up, and I'm not really bothered if it's not "The True History Of The Star Wars Galaxy" anymore or whatever.

My interest in Star Wars dwindled for a long while, even in the face of the new movie coming out and the hype train gaining speed, but I recently got hooked on the X-wing miniatures game (who would have guessed?) and having fun with that, and it's making me want to re-read the X-wing books/comics and see if I still enjoy them as much as I thought I did.

and that's a lot of words about Star Wars

Xenomrph posted:

In theory yes, because they're claiming everything is equally "canon" now, top to bottom.

Although we'll see how well that holds up a few years down the line when some director wants to tell a cool movie story and the Lucasfilm Story Group steps in and says "hold on now, that would contradict Star Wars comic issue #37 (which the average moviegoing public neither read nor gives a poo poo about)"

There's some old EU stuff I'd like to see "re-canonized", most of which wouldn't contradict anything if it were reintroduced.
- Shadows of the Empire (all of it)
- Much of the 3000 years BBY stuff (Tales of the Jedi comics, Knights of the Old Republic comics and games)
- The Xwing/TIE Fighter/XvT/Xwing Alliance games, and the stuff from the Rogue Squadron games that take place pre- ROTJ
- Mara Jade as a character (in a limited capacity - agent/assassin for the Empire, but don't bother with anything post-ROTJ where she interacts with Luke/Han/Leia). I just like Mara Jade as a character
- the bulk of the Boba Fett standalone comics where he's off being a cool dude and doing cool poo poo (namely the one where he kills Jodo Kast)
- gently caress it, the bulk of the West End Games stuff that doesn't contradict the upcoming movie

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

The first level of Force Unleashed 1 (which was also the demo) is the only genuinely good thing that came out of any of that. Everything that comes after that gets steadily worse in a number of inventive ways to be bad. Both of them felt rather rushed, the second one far more so.

The idea of playing Star Wars Goku is awesome but they hosed up a lot of things along the way. The level design and "story" in the second one are awful and it's basically a 13-year-old's fanfic where he meets all the original series characters, who either wave at him or he kills them.

Tom Brady posted:

isnt jodo kast actually admiral thrawn


or was that somehow admiral thrawn pretending to be jodo cast pretending to be boba fett


I seriously hope it isnt the latter because lol

silvergoose posted:

No pretty sure that that was because of the original thrawn trilogy, he laid it on pretty thick by the end

quote:

in the article, ComicScan: Luke-ing for Love in all the Wrong Places in Star Wars Galaxy Collector 7, Timothy Zahn stated that one of the conditions for writing these novels was that Luke Skywalker would become engaged to Mara Jade at the duology's conclusion.

drunk asian neighbor posted:

e: also IIRC it was that pair of books that introduced Thrawn's ability to defeat an entire civilization by looking at a painting

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

That was the central computer core and he has his own action figure.

Blistex posted:

JESUS loving CHRIST!

Even when I make a joke about the most obscure things that you only see for 1/50th of a second in the original trilogy, it turns out there is a billion-word backstory to them.

How about the 4-eyed bear with the piece of poo poo hanging out of his mouth. . . is there some glorious epic about him?

Elukka posted:

The Thrawn books were really badly written (at least the first one which I couldn't finish) in so many ways I dunno how they're considered good. I've read and enjoyed warham books so it's not like I have particularly high standards for this stuff either.

drunk asian neighbor posted:

also IIRC it was that pair of books that introduced Thrawn's ability to defeat an entire civilization by looking at a painting

Fojar38 posted:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Muftak

Muftak was orphaned at Docking Bay 12 of the Mos Eisley spaceport on Tatooine. He grew up among the cantina's regular, local customers, performing odd jobs to make a living. He always knew that he was different from almost every other race that passed through Mos Eisley, but he couldn't learn who or what he was. He searched out information from his friend, Momaw Nadon, but Nadon had never seen a Talz before.

In time, Muftak found and adopted the abandoned Chadra-Fan female named Kabe, and the two were nearly inseparable. Together they were known as pickpockets and thieves, with Muftak providing the brawn, while Kabe provided the brains.
Just after the Millennium Falcon blasted out of Mos Eisley, Muftak and Kabe decided to rob Jabba Desilijic Tiure's Mos Eisley townhouse, where Mosep Binneed had established the Hutt's treasury and financial headquarters. They were rewarded when they were able to rescue a datadot from Barid Mesoriaam, who was being tortured by Jabba for information on the Rebel Alliance. Muftak and Kabe barely escaped, but were paid 15,000 credits and a pair of travel vouchers signed by Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin. They fled Tatooine, traveling to both Alzoc III and Chad before visiting other planets.
During this time, Muftak wrote his autobiography, Sands in Winter.