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Haha yeah it's probably my phone as I didn't really adjust anything though those lights are terrible and take forever to warm up. Anyway, I also tried it out with my 42". Might be a bit overkill and I need to figure out some good FOV settings. Also think that the seat might be a bit low. 
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That looks like a perfect FOV, actually. Ideally, things on the screen should be their real-life size.
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Sep 23, 2015 21:36
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Harminoff posted:Haha yeah it's probably my phone as I didn't really adjust anything though those lights are terrible and take forever to warm up. No need to figure something out, it's pure mathematics and there is only one correct value: http://www.projectimmersion.com/fov/ Edit: I moved my monitor from behind the CSW base to on top of it to gain 5° FOV  Edit2: If that's a TV it probably has terrible lag. GhostDog fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Sep 23, 2015 |
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Sep 23, 2015 22:15
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KillHour posted:That looks like a perfect FOV, actually. Ideally, things on the screen should be their real-life size. Adjusting the FOV to the size of the given viewport cuts out things that may be seen with your peripheral vision. This is all subjective, but I'd rather have a high FOV on a single monitor and see more.
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Sep 24, 2015 20:40
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Proper FOV isn't a subjective thing.
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Sep 24, 2015 20:50
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Norns posted:Proper FOV isn't a subjective thing. Wasn't commenting on proper FOV, but rather, that FOV is subjective without considering "properness". At that point, it's a matter of taste. Image distortion vs. increased visibility. I agree, there is a proper FOV for realism, but that may narrow the viewport too much to be useful. Ganondork fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Sep 24, 2015 |
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Sep 24, 2015 21:00
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FOV is objective. When you have your fov set properly, you will drive better because everything is the right scale. You solve the peripheral vision issue with spottter, relative windows, and look left/right buttons.
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Sep 24, 2015 21:02
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Cojawfee posted:FOV is objective. When you have your fov set properly, you will drive better because everything is the right scale. Good point, I could see the image distortion making cornering accuracy more difficult or, well, odd. I'll have to give this FOV calculator a try.
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Sep 24, 2015 21:04
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Unrealistically high FOV driving prioritizes some nebulous "sense of speed" and your peripheral vision (which is easily accounted for where it matters with mirrors and glance buttons) over all the other things about vision that make turning and gauging distances/angles easy. The funhouse mirror effect doesn't matter so much in Quake, but it's almost like intentionally wearing drunk goggles and somehow convincing yourself it's giving you an advantage when you're playing a racing sim.
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Imo we overthink this, slam all the gears and never lift bithc
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An Enormous Boner posted:Unrealistically high FOV driving prioritizes some nebulous "sense of speed" Yeah, it's a false sense of speed bought for the price of a complete distortion of distances. Edit: I have a TrackIR though, so adjusting was easy for me since I can just look around. GhostDog fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Sep 24, 2015 |
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Sep 24, 2015 21:22
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Tim Wheatley posted:That's right! We're very happy to confirm that rFactor 2 will be joining rFactor 1, and available on the Steam platform in the near future! This is an exciting step for us, as it exposes our software to a much wider audience, an audience that we think is beginning to appreciate simulations more than ever before. It's about time. Hopefully that also means a push to get all the content into a consistent "release" state.
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GhostDog posted:It's about time. Hopefully that also means a push to get all the content into a consistent "release" state. Is the AI any good? I wouldn't mind picking it up for offline stock car racing so I can screw around with it without having to go online in iRacing. If I don't buy the lifetime thing, do I still get free content updates? If I understood correctly that is just for lifetime multiplayer access, and from what I've heard multiplayer is pretty dead anyway. (And I have iRacing for multiplayer so doesn't matter much to me)
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Cojawfee posted:FOV is objective. When you have your fov set properly, you will drive better because everything is the right scale. You solve the peripheral vision issue with spottter, relative windows, and look left/right buttons. This is right. I have an annoying friend that likes to see more and sets it higher because reasons. My proper FOV I can't even seen the tacho. So I use an app that gives me shift tones, because seeing the tacho isn't worth poo poo in comparison to actually seeing the track and oncoming objects properly. Do whatever you like in the car, you can drive around in first gear if you want too.
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Torabi posted:Is the AI any good? I wouldn't mind picking it up for offline stock car racing so I can screw around with it without having to go online in iRacing. If I don't buy the lifetime thing, do I still get free content updates? If I understood correctly that is just for lifetime multiplayer access, and from what I've heard multiplayer is pretty dead anyway. (And I have iRacing for multiplayer so doesn't matter much to me) You get the content updates no matter what, the lifetime pass thing is just for online racing which is only really relevant if you race in a league that uses rFactor 2 (which for now is really only endurance leagues). The AI is pretty good on road courses, but ovals not so much at least not in the Indycar. Maybe they'll do some work on it for the release of the stock cars but I have my doubts. My expectations for those are basically that they're going to just release the stock cars, which means there'll be 2 ovals to actually race on. They can't rely on mods to fill in the gaps either since virtually no-one is making mods for it, even after they released those new tools to make converting rFactor mods easier.
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Sep 25, 2015 05:16
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"FOV is objective" is hilarious. I play with 90 and it's cool and I like it.
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Eyud posted:"FOV is objective" is hilarious. I play with 90 and it's cool and I like it. I bet you get a great view of everyone passing you.
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Sep 25, 2015 06:03
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I do but that's because I'm not very good at racing, not because my FOV is too high.
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Sep 25, 2015 06:09
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I'm not very fast. I ignore the advice of people that are fast. I am a Goon.
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Eyud posted:I do but that's because I'm not very good at racing, not because my FOV is too high. You are of course free to play however you like. However, should you ever give it a try for more than the two minutes it takes to go "this feels too slow" you might find you are better at racing than you think. Placing the front wheel just right there on the inside curb where you want it? Getting close to the wall coming out of a corner? Not smashing into cars in the braking zones? These things should be kinda easy to pull off consistenly (as long as you're not overdriving), and guess what? With the right FOV they are. I'm now actually starting to learn how to race instead of being busy placing the car right. I race against AI in the few days since changing my FOV I raised the difficulty across all games by more than I managed for months before. Edit: I'm just trying to help you man. Come into the light with us. GhostDog fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Sep 25, 2015 |
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FOV chat gets me idly looking at the costs for ultrawide and triple screen setups 
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Helicon One posted:FOV chat gets me idly looking at the costs for ultrawide and triple screen setups ha, i'll still never spend the grand its gonna take for 2 more 1440 p monitors 
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One can only hope Oculus will make everything else obsolete. 
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OhsH posted:ha, i'll still never spend the grand its gonna take for 2 more 1440 p monitors It'll be more than that, because you'll need a ton more horsepower from your video card(s). That's why I'm sticking with triple 1080, there are plenty of pixels to render at that resolution.
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OhsH posted:ha, i'll still never spend the grand its gonna take for 2 more 1440 p monitors I settled for 3 vg248qe monitors while I wait for vr
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I'm still torn between making my christmas present a T300/TX or triple screens.
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Which wheel do you currently have and do you also play console racing games? If you have a logitech or fanatec wheel and stay on the PC get the monitors. If you have no wheel, or also have an xbox one, get the tx. if you have no wheel or also have a ps4 get a t300. Or sell a kidney and get the monitors and a tx/t300. A thrustmaster wheel is better than a logitech or fanatec (not including clubsport) but it's not worth the price of upgrading unless you also want current gen console compatibility.
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GhostDog posted:SKY IS FALLING, THE END OF SIM RACING posted: I bet this guy fought tooth and nail when games started to move into 64-bit and did not want to give up his Windows XP. Then years before that was mad about graphics cards being required.
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GutBomb posted:Which wheel do you currently have and do you also play console racing games? If you have a logitech or fanatec wheel and stay on the PC get the monitors. If you have no wheel, or also have an xbox one, get the tx. if you have no wheel or also have a ps4 get a t300. I have a G27 and only really play on the PC, it's too much effort to take my wheel and drag it over to the PS4/Xbone. Though if GT7 ever comes out I might end up bringing the PS4 over to the rig and doing it that way.
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Ringo Star Get posted:Then years before that was mad about graphics cards being required. REAL sim racers drive with just the telemetry data, matrix style.
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What's the easiest/most fun car to hoon around a track with the tail out that won't just constantly spin out? I want to be Clarkson reviewing supercars drifting around all silly like. Can this be done in pCars? Something like "teach me how to drift" mode.
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300 SEL in Project Cars. Skip Barber in rFactor 2. Opala in Stock Car Extreme. None of them supercars though, just super cars.
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GhostDog posted:300 SEL in Project Cars. This was excellent advice, thank you.
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The Ginetta G40 Junior in Project Cars might be another one to try. I know I'm having a blast with it after the horror that is LMP1's in Monaco.
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Helicon One posted:FOV chat gets me idly looking at the costs for ultrawide and triple screen setups Triple ultrawide  aspect ratio of three 21:9 (really it should be written as 7:3) screens is 7:1 (or 63:9 or 21:3)
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AnimalChin posted:This was excellent advice, thank you. I thought the old ford in the same class was a more controllable drift. https://youtu.be/rA5rkBrpJJw whatever car this one is.
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njsykora posted:I'm still torn between making my christmas present a T300/TX or triple screens. Don't get three monitors. If you currently have three monitors, go with it. If you don't have three monitors, wait for the Rift or Vive. Even with the low resolution of the DK2, you're actually in the car and it's amazing. There's so much depth. At the very least, find someone to let you try VR when it comes out before going with three screens. The extra peripheral of three screen is nice, but you can't place the car as well as you can with a rift.
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