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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Nightcrawler was best in Excalibur, when Alan Davis drew him looking like Errol Flynn. :D

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Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

Wheat Loaf posted:

Nightcrawler was best in Excalibur, when Alan Davis drew him looking like Errol Flynn. :D

It also helped that Excalibur was one of the lesser X-men type comics so they could afford to make things weirder or sillier. Like for example Nightcrawler crashes a plane and faces off with the son of Krakoa (aka a hive-mind island) and tricks it into drowning to prove that it's as powerful as its father.

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

Beefstew posted:

Because professional filmmakers totally watch internet critics.

http://www.slashfilm.com/watch-this-70-minute-video-review-of-star-wars-the-phantom-menace/

quote:

Some guy named Mike from Milwaukee, WI put together a 70-minute video review discussing the many reasons why the movie was horrible. And this isn’t your usual fanboy rant, this is an epic, well-edited well-constructed piece of geek film criticism. In fact, the way I learned about the video was from Lost co-creator and Star Trek producer Damon Lindelof, who said “Your life is about to change. This is astounding film making. Watch ALL of it.” Watch the video review embedded after the jump.

echopapa
Jun 2, 2005

El Presidente smiles upon this thread.

Terrible Opinions posted:

Dude everyone who sleep talks does crazy poo poo like that. You just never remember it.

The last time I split a hotel room with someone, they said I reviewed a movie in my sleep. :(

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Testekill posted:

It also helped that Excalibur was one of the lesser X-men type comics so they could afford to make things weirder or sillier. Like for example Nightcrawler crashes a plane and faces off with the son of Krakoa (aka a hive-mind island) and tricks it into drowning to prove that it's as powerful as its father.

Loads of Doctor Who references in that comic, too, at a time when that was fairly "only nerds and PBS viewers know about it" territory in America.

Keromaru5
Dec 28, 2012

Pictured: The Wolf Of Gubbio (probably)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

Wheat Loaf posted:

Loads of Doctor Who references in that comic, too, at a time when that was fairly "only nerds and PBS viewers know about it" territory in America.
And on the verge of cancellation in the UK, now that I think about it.

There's also an issue where Excalibur turn into animes and meet not!Dirty Pair.

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction

The Horse in Tears posted:

The NC Fury Road review sounds a lot like the Matrix review, which is where I finally gave up on the show. They kept on whining that "everyone thinks it's so smart" while saying squat to counter that. It was just a strawman that let them rag on the movie with the same kind of jokes they always make.

It's actually even more pointless than that, where he says it's not that great, then is explained why it is using the arguments pretty much everyone already knows, then admits it is great. At least the Matrix review was attempting to prove something contrary.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

This is just making it funnier that Lindelof was the subject of a two minutes hate a while ago.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


The Vosgian Beast posted:

This is just making it funnier that Lindelof was the subject of a two minutes hate a while ago.

Yeah how dare people talk about movie makers paying attention to internet critics in response to someone suggesting that movie makers don't pay attention to internet critics! How could anyone point to this guy doing a thing when people were saying bad things about him before? IT BOGGLES THE MIND!

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Puppy Time posted:

Yeah how dare people talk about movie makers paying attention to internet critics in response to someone suggesting that movie makers don't pay attention to internet critics! How could anyone point to this guy doing a thing when people were saying bad things about him before? IT BOGGLES THE MIND!

Okay

Beefstew
Oct 30, 2010

I told you that story so I could tell you this one...

PiedPiper posted:

Hey now, he pointed out that the saviour of our world was named Thomas. Thomas!
This is totally a counterargument, right guys?

What you got against people named Thomas, NC? :colbert:

Beefstew fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Sep 25, 2015

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Puppy Time posted:

Yeah how dare people talk about movie makers paying attention to internet critics in response to someone suggesting that movie makers don't pay attention to internet critics! How could anyone point to this guy doing a thing when people were saying bad things about him before? IT BOGGLES THE MIND!

... huh? Near as I could tell, he was just pointing out the amusing irony of a guy getting very enthusiastic about RLM and then getting savaged by their critical circle. Which is quite funny.

Your post is a weird post.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Beefstew posted:

What you got against people named Thomas, NC? :colbert:

It's Thoooomaaaaas the Fuuuuucking Taaaaaank Eeeeengine!

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Darth Walrus posted:

... huh? Near as I could tell, he was just pointing out the amusing irony of a guy getting very enthusiastic about RLM and then getting savaged by their critical circle. Which is quite funny.

Your post is a weird post.

Pretty much.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

After catching up with this thread, I have something horrible to admit.

It's me, I'm the one that enjoys listening to Spoony yak about wrestling bullshit for actual hours :saddowns:

But really aside from that, Brad is super cool, Lupa's cool, JO's cool, Phelous's cool and so is Bennett. Also I like Rich Evans. The internet has some cool people.

Ghostpilot
Jun 22, 2007

"As a rule, I never touch anything more sophisticated and delicate than myself."

Testekill posted:

It also helped that Excalibur was one of the lesser X-men type comics so they could afford to make things weirder or sillier. Like for example Nightcrawler crashes a plane and faces off with the son of Krakoa (aka a hive-mind island) and tricks it into drowning to prove that it's as powerful as its father.

Oh boy, that's not one-tenth as crazy as what happened during his first solo miniseries from the mid-80's.

Here's small sample of what was in this 4-part miniseries: http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/nightcrawler_1-4.shtml

PassTheRemote
Mar 15, 2007

Number 6 holds The Village record in Duck Hunt.

The first one to kill :laugh: wins.

Tracula posted:

That's sort of the biggest thing thing. The review is about 27 minutes long and of which 22 minutes are basically skit and bullshit. This is really what's starting to kill internet critics for me. I get that the whole persona thing is a big deal for them but for so many of them it's persona first, review second.

Most of the reviewers don't even really have personas. Their "persona" is just an over the top version of themselves. Few use the personas in any way in the review.


Honestly, I hate Doug's skits as well. Doug is not good at comedy and everything he tries to do looks low budget (Pop Quiz Hotshot?) and low effort (Pop Quiz Hotshot?, most of the skits in his reviews). He's been at this for how many years now?

Linear Zoetrope
Nov 28, 2011

A hero must cook
I think the last NC I watched was TMNT, and the last time I watched regularly was Monster Squad, but I didn't find his skits quite as bad as the rest of you. They weren't good, but while there are plenty of exceptions, for the most part I didn't find them hard to watch or anything. I rarely even actively wished he would stop and get on with the review. NC was just kind of like that TV show you watched 5 years ago and don't remember anymore: bland, but sometimes it was enough to get a chuckle and that's why you didn't change the channel when it came on.

I do rather like Spoony's skits. Linkara's I have closer to the reaction most of you have to Doug's, though Linkara mercifully packs them at the end of his reviews so you can usually just turn it off by that point. Though I'll admit I admire the sheer earnestness and sincerity of Linkara's brand of nonsense.

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Jsor posted:

I think the last NC I watched was TMNT, and the last time I watched regularly was Monster Squad, but I didn't find his skits quite as bad as the rest of you. They weren't good, but while there are plenty of exceptions, for the most part I didn't find them hard to watch or anything. I rarely even actively wished he would stop and get on with the review. NC was just kind of like that TV show you watched 5 years ago and don't remember anymore: bland, but sometimes it was enough to get a chuckle and that's why you didn't change the channel when it came on.

I do rather like Spoony's skits. Linkara's I have closer to the reaction most of you have to Doug's, though Linkara mercifully packs them at the end of his reviews so you can usually just turn it off by that point. Though I'll admit I admire the sheer earnestness and sincerity of Linkara's brand of nonsense.

You know what, I should see them. I honestly never paid that much attention to him other than the power ranger videos, it would be interesting to see a development of the meta narrative.

The Bee
Nov 25, 2012

Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!

Jsor posted:

I think the last NC I watched was TMNT, and the last time I watched regularly was Monster Squad, but I didn't find his skits quite as bad as the rest of you. They weren't good, but while there are plenty of exceptions, for the most part I didn't find them hard to watch or anything. I rarely even actively wished he would stop and get on with the review. NC was just kind of like that TV show you watched 5 years ago and don't remember anymore: bland, but sometimes it was enough to get a chuckle and that's why you didn't change the channel when it came on.

I do rather like Spoony's skits. Linkara's I have closer to the reaction most of you have to Doug's, though Linkara mercifully packs them at the end of his reviews so you can usually just turn it off by that point. Though I'll admit I admire the sheer earnestness and sincerity of Linkara's brand of nonsense.

I guess the problem with the recent ones in many peoples' books is that a lot of the NC's skits have dominated the episodes lately. They're the intro, outro, and framing device. Imagine if every review was his Caspter review.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

The Bee posted:

I guess the problem with the recent ones in many peoples' books is that a lot of the NC's skits have dominated the episodes lately. They're the intro, outro, and framing device. Imagine if every review was his Caspter review.

It's starting to become like it was near the end of his first NC run; his reviews become mostly skits and stale jokes because he got tired of actually reviewing stuff.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

nine-gear crow posted:

It's starting to become like it was near the end of his first NC run; his reviews become mostly skits and stale jokes because he got tired of actually reviewing stuff.

Coming soon: Demo Reel 2: Electric Boogaloo.

Linear Zoetrope
Nov 28, 2011

A hero must cook

Leal posted:

Coming soon: Demo Reel 2: Electric Boogaloo.

This will be worth it if Brad does another parody of it.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Jsor posted:

This will be worth it if Brad does another parody of it.

The problem with the original ET porno was that it wasn't hot ENOUGH

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

RLM is actually better than any other so-called Internet Critic, so this is no surprise.

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

BottledBodhisvata posted:

RLM is actually better than any other so-called Internet Critic, so this is no surprise.

Pretty much. And say what you will if you like Plinkett or not it's 100% an act for them at least. (far as I know) Mike and Jay aren't actually serial killers who keep women in their basement (this is Wisconsin after all though.) The guys at RLM go pretty much totally in character or not and they know when to turn it off during a review or a discussion.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Phelous also cannot reincarnate, and Todd has a visible face during at least part of his life.

Infamous Sphere
Nov 8, 2010
Blargh oh my god yes, I have read fanfiction, in a way it's a guilty pleasure/so bad it's good thing. I can't read trashy romance though. Fanfiction..oh god..some of the anatomical limitations are..well..let's just say these women don't very much und
New review! I reviewed David Lean's intimidatingly well-regarded film Lawrence of Arabia!

I can't believe these men may control the fate of the middle east!

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Phelous also cannot reincarnate, and Todd has a visible face during at least part of his life.

I think Tracula is saying that at least Mike isn't actually awful the way some other internet critics are awful and put up a front of "BUT IT'S JUST A CHARACTER". That the negative qualities of Plinkett legitimately are just an aspect of the character rather than actually an aspect of Mike.

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

Idran posted:

I think Tracula is saying that at least Mike isn't actually awful the way some other internet critics are awful and put up a front of "BUT IT'S JUST A CHARACTER". That the negative qualities of Plinkett legitimately are just an aspect of the character rather than actually an aspect of Mike.

Yeah, sorry if it wasn't clear that's what I was getting at. I just get annoyed when guys like Doug and Noah pull the whole "it's a character" thing when they're being aggressively lovely or obtuse in their videos when it's clearly them and not just the Critic or Spoony respectively.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
I'm not even sure why Noah acts like Spoony is a character and not just him making jokes

CynCyanide
Mar 21, 2005

dance, water, dance!
With Spoony, I think a great deal of it goes back to his love of Mystery Science Theater 3000. He clearly wanted to be a Joel or Mike type character, so he had to have a character to play too. It's undoubtedly why he included skits in his reviews in the first place: Mystery Science Theater had host segments so he had to have some kind of host segment. He ripped off so many, many jokes from that show. poo poo, I know he used this one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEI_udV88i4.

Can't we just get beyond Mystery Science Theater 3000?

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

CynCyanide posted:

With Spoony, I think a great deal of it goes back to his love of Mystery Science Theater 3000. He clearly wanted to be a Joel or Mike type character, so he had to have a character to play too. It's undoubtedly why he included skits in his reviews in the first place: Mystery Science Theater had host segments so he had to have some kind of host segment. He ripped off so many, many jokes from that show. poo poo, I know he used this one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEI_udV88i4.

Can't we just get beyond Mystery Science Theater 3000?

To go back to RLM again one of my absolute favorite things about them over them TGWTG veterans is I believe most of them have said they never even really watched MST3K while growing up. I just sort of appreciate them doing their own memes and bullshit when reviewing movies that MST3K might have covered rather than just aping what someone else did before them.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Pop Quiz Hotshot is a lot worse than I remembered.

Robert Denby
Sep 9, 2007
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt, huh? Nah, get fucked mate.

Infamous Sphere posted:

New review! I reviewed David Lean's intimidatingly well-regarded film Lawrence of Arabia!
Nicely done! Its great to see something where even though I'm familiar with the film it makes me see things about it in a new light. There's plenty to talk about with both the movie and the person the movie is based on.

The four minutes of black screen with music is a holdover from the ‘roadshow’ days. If you see “Lawrence of Arabia” (or any roadshow movie really) in a theater, the overture plays at or a couple minutes before the start time while the house lights are still up, kind of like a play. At the end of the overture, the house lights dim, and the curtains open for the Columbia logo. There's also music at the end of the intermission to prompt people that the movie is starting back in a few minutes. These elements work awkwardly on home video but since its technically part of the film, it gets included if you watch something like "2001", "West Side Story", "Ben-Hur", "Spartacus", et al on home video. Funny story; when the fully-restored version of "Lawrence" first came out on home video in 1990, rental places had people returning the film thinking there was something wrong with it because of this.

Infamous Sphere posted:

I can't believe these men may control the fate of the middle east!
Best use of that line thusfar.

Robert Denby fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Sep 27, 2015

CaligulaKangaroo
Jul 26, 2012

MAY YOUR HALLOWEEN BE AS STUPID AS MY LIFE IS

Tracula posted:

Yeah, sorry if it wasn't clear that's what I was getting at. I just get annoyed when guys like Doug and Noah pull the whole "it's a character" thing when they're being aggressively lovely or obtuse in their videos when it's clearly them and not just the Critic or Spoony respectively.

That's part of the reason I can't bring myself to watch Doug and Rob's "Real Thoughts" videos. it just seems like an extension of that poo poo.

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe

Idran posted:

I think Tracula is saying that at least Mike isn't actually awful the way some other internet critics are awful and put up a front of "BUT IT'S JUST A CHARACTER". That the negative qualities of Plinkett legitimately are just an aspect of the character rather than actually an aspect of Mike.

Yeah, the weirdest thing about the "But Its Just A Character" thing is that they try to toe the line between that and (as I think Linkara put it) having a character that's essentially him but with the dials turned up to max. Whichever works for their argument at the time, they say the one is always the case.

This is super judgemental/superficial, but I've found that the more 'normal' an Internet Critic is, the more I like 'em. RLM/PreRec/Brad over "Hey look behind me, I have a whole shelf of anime dolls and action figures" folks.

Infamous Sphere
Nov 8, 2010
Blargh oh my god yes, I have read fanfiction, in a way it's a guilty pleasure/so bad it's good thing. I can't read trashy romance though. Fanfiction..oh god..some of the anatomical limitations are..well..let's just say these women don't very much und

Robert Denby posted:

Nicely done! Its great to see something where even though I'm familiar with the film it makes me see things about it in a new light. There's plenty to talk about with both the movie and the person the movie is based on.

The four minutes of black screen with music is a holdover from the ‘roadshow’ days. If you see “Lawrence of Arabia” (or any roadshow movie really) in a theater, the overture plays at or a couple minutes before the start time while the house lights are still up, kind of like a play. At the end of the overture, the house lights dim, and the curtains open for the Columbia logo. There's also music at the end of the intermission to prompt people that the movie is starting back in a few minutes. These elements work awkwardly on home video but since its technically part of the film, it gets included if you watch something like "2001", "West Side Story", "Ben-Hur", "Spartacus", et al on home video. Funny story; when the fully-restored version of "Lawrence" first came out on home video in 1990, rental places had people returning the film thinking there was something wrong with it because of this.

Thanks! I'm glad you liked it.
I was really glad when this film was requested, because I'd literally just added it to my Netflix queue, and if it weren't for the Patreon request I probably would have never gotten around to watching it. I'm hoping if I get another patreon subscriber at that tier, they also request something equally interesting.

There's way more things that I could have mentioned, but I left out because of time constraints, and sometimes there'd be so many things I was thinking about that I'd forget some of the points I might have otherwise made. I wondered, for instance, about the welfare of the animals you see in the movie - there are scenes where horses take some pretty nasty looking tumbles, and seeing as this was a time well before CGI, I assumed that there must have been a lot of injuries there. But I couldn't seem to find any solid information on the animal welfare, so I can only assume that they didn't really take records of it at that stage.

Yeah, I assumed that the black screen and the overture were there to allow people plenty of time to get to their seats, much like that random band performance on the front of "How To Marry a Millionaire." I originally thought it was going to happen for about 30 seconds, and so I sat there waiting for it to end. When it got to about a minute, I got up and skipped over the rest of it. Weirdly enough though, while the version on Netflix includes the four minutes at the start, there's no intertitle indicating an intermission. So the movie was still 3 hrs 40 *without* the intermission title and interlude built in.
This was a film really made for the cinema. There were a few scenes where I couldn't quite see what was happening, because I was watching it on a small screen - and there's a pretty major discrepancy between the music volume and the dialogue, meaning I had to put subtitles on. Hence, I'd recommend watching it in a cinema, with the caveat that you really need to be prepared to see it in one sitting.
I can only imagine this would be a pretty shonky movie to watch on VHS though, especially once the grain obliterated some of those smaller details.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
There is such a thing as a stunt horse that is trained to take falls like that relatively safely.

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Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

Todd posted a new video on the hills by the Weeknd but it got taken down with a DMCA in less than ten minutes.

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