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YoshiOfYellow posted:I don't like losing a competitive game make it more equal please. drat, yo. Just because we bagged on your catgirl waifu game doesn't mean you have to anger troll. It's cool, man. We get it. FF14 is a gift. Feel free to tell me why I should sit through hours of an old expansion's story so that I can play with my friends in a new one.
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How long before we see goons who have been making GBS threads on this game all year end up reinstalling when FTP hits?
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Sep 25, 2015 20:48
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What? This conversation was about PVP and the person I replied to was talking about MOBAs.
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Sep 25, 2015 20:48
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YoshiOfYellow posted:I don't like losing a competitive game make it more equal please. It's not really a whine about losing. It's more that falling behind in a MOBA is the start of a negative feedback loop -- you die, you fall behind, you die more easily now, you fall behind even more -- that can quickly predetermine whether or not you'll even be contributing meaningfully by the end of the match.
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Sep 25, 2015 20:49
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YoshiOfYellow posted:What? Hyperbolic screeching.
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Sep 25, 2015 20:49
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The Chairman posted:It's not really a whine about losing. It's more that falling behind in a MOBA is the start of a negative feedback loop -- you die, you fall behind, you die more easily now, you fall behind even more -- that can quickly predetermine whether or not you'll even be contributing meaningfully by the end of the match. In good MOBAs (yes, I realise a lot of people think that's an oxymoron) it's nowhere near as simple as that. Regardless, it's a desperately stupid comparison - it's more like a MOBA where your enemy mid is level 10 at the start of each game because he's paid more money / spent 500 hours on the game while you're still starting out.
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Sep 25, 2015 20:53
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The community of Wildstar is still hilariously bad. All the people who swore up and down that the game would never go F2P have either stopped posting on the forums or try to pretend they never said that. Some dude got called out for retroactively going back and deleting all of his old posts to the contrary.
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Sep 25, 2015 21:17
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The Chairman posted:It's not really a whine about losing. It's more that falling behind in a MOBA is the start of a negative feedback loop -- you die, you fall behind, you die more easily now, you fall behind even more -- that can quickly predetermine whether or not you'll even be contributing meaningfully by the end of the match. It's this. In good games, you have the same effectiveness in a fight on minute 1 and minute 15. It keeps the game fun. In a MOBA, this is almost never true. More than half the time it's either stomp or get stomped by the time you're 10 minutes in, because someone got 2 kills in a row early on and can then freely farm your team as long as he doesn't gently caress up and has competent team mates.
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Sep 25, 2015 22:38
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Truga posted:It's this. In good games, you have the same effectiveness in a fight on minute 1 and minute 15. It keeps the game fun. In a MOBA, this is almost never true. More than half the time it's either stomp or get stomped by the time you're 10 minutes in, because someone got 2 kills in a row early on and can then freely farm your team as long as he doesn't gently caress up and has competent team mates. Just want to point out that big swings in momentum are a core aspect of mobas, and gaining an advantage is only half of the battle. Maintaining it without losing your lead through being too passive or too aggressive is a real thing that balances that aspect of the game out. Like, this problem is why the bounty system exists, and why team fights later on can make such an impact, and why most of your power is actually coming out of the map rather than kills.
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Sep 25, 2015 22:48
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I posted this in the Archage thread but it fits in here too. FFXIV goons lmao Someone sent me these quotes and i thought this thread would appreciate it KaneTW posted:Sorry, if you can't appreciate a cute foxgirl hitting things with a weapon 3 times her size your opinion is garbo. KaneTW posted:Dunno, some of the lewder outfits are still pretty cute. Devilicious is probably the best outfit in Tera period. KaneTW posted:What? No. Elin aren't even close to how children look, jesus christ. KaneTW posted:Mentally they're adults, and as above they don't look like children. Not sure where you get that children part from. as a reminder this is what they look like   goons never stop giving lol (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Sep 26, 2015 00:01
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hey this is the wildstar thread where we post wildstar things like this, Carbine's stunning new ad campaign 
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So I've been getting emails about the F2P launch lately. Their grand relaunch is at ... 12... am... on a Tuesday night... I guess that way when only 3 people actually show up for the grand re-opening they don't have to give out many prizes*, also they won't suffer the servers lagging and crashing at launch either... I guess. *Boom boxes aren't really a prize, and that's likely what they'll give out.
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Sep 26, 2015 01:16
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The Chairman posted:hey The palpable desperation is amazing.
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Sep 26, 2015 01:17
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Kittens. Bacon. Craft beer. WildStar. All things the internet loves. What's that? Only WildStar doesn't belong? Oh. Well.
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hit button posted:If you mean "I do not like this thing", that's a totally valid and understandable point of view. Your argument is flawed for simple reason. Time. The power progression in a MOBA happens over the course of a match and not weeks/months. I'm okay with that. What I'm not OK with is when someone's gear, or power progression allows them to arbitrarily win (this tends to happen in a lot of MMOs). The only thing that time spent should do is make you a better player. LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:I've played smite with you, I know you don't believe this entirely Yeah MOBAs are a different beast though. The gear in that are more akin to Perks, or Talent trees , or what not.
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Sep 26, 2015 01:34
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Just want to point out that big swings in momentum are a core aspect of mobas, and gaining an advantage is only half of the battle. Maintaining it without losing your lead through being too passive or too aggressive is a real thing that balances that aspect of the game out. Like, this problem is why the bounty system exists, and why team fights later on can make such an impact, and why most of your power is actually coming out of the map rather than kills. Or you can be a complete bad and still win, like we did 
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Sep 26, 2015 01:37
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Hy_C posted:goons never stop giving lol Let's not turn the thread into helldump.
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Sep 26, 2015 02:10
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The Chairman posted:hey Ok
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Sep 26, 2015 02:53
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I'm gonna play Wildstar when it goes F2P, also I think FFXIV is legit the best MMO on the market right now.
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Sep 26, 2015 03:29
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Man I hope the old wildstar threads dont go into archive because drat are there some horrible opinions in there going back to posts from 2+ years ago is a trip
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Man I hope the old wildstar threads dont go into archive because drat are there some horrible opinions in there going back to posts from 2+ years ago is a trip I was foolish enough to believe that things would somehow magically be fixed in the transition from beta to live instead of the reality: bugs getting compacted as one train wreck plowed into another with each major content drop.  The goons who try to act like they never believed in it and were making GBS threads on it from the start should indeed be laughed at.
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Sep 26, 2015 04:03
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I mean thats part of it yes, but like before most people actually got to play it. Like mid 2013 and poo poo
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Sep 26, 2015 04:08
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biznatchio posted:Let's not turn the thread into helldump. Thirsty Dog posted:good MOBAs
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Anoia posted:I was foolish enough to believe that things would somehow magically be fixed in the transition from beta to live instead of the reality: bugs getting compacted as one train wreck plowed into another with each major content drop. What if you hated it from the start because of the art style?  I never thought the game would be bad until I saw their raid video and thought anyone who wanted to play that had to be insane.
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Sep 26, 2015 04:58
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Hy_C posted:
Did you post this into the eve thread I hope? They are the ones that created patient zero.
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Sep 26, 2015 06:22
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Eimi posted:What if you hated it from the start because of the art style? But have you SEEN warplots? (Still can't believe they were so lacking in self awareness they left that up for as long as they did)
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Holyshoot posted:Did you post this into the eve thread I hope? They are the ones that created patient zero. Look at it this way, the more times he posts it the more times you get to be indignant about people bringing it up. It's a win-win.
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Asimo posted:Please name them. Dota2 is a good moba. And the idea that a couple of early kills make it a foregone conclusion is just hilariously wrong.
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Anoia posted:I was foolish enough to believe that things would somehow magically be fixed in the transition from beta to live instead of the reality: bugs getting compacted as one train wreck plowed into another with each major content drop. I will fully admit that I too assumed that a lot of the issues were going to be fixed in the deadtime between beta and launch. I wasn't expecting them to turn around and make things even worse. Anoia posted:The goons who try to act like they never believed in it and were making GBS threads on it from the start should indeed be laughed at. To be fair, a lot of the goons here were making GBS threads on it from the start. The only problem is that a lot of the early criticism was retarded as hell.
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Sep 26, 2015 15:14
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Look at it this way, the more times he posts it the more times you get to be indignant about people bringing it up. It's a win-win. 
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Sep 26, 2015 15:43
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Holyshoot climbs up a mountain of the dead broken bodies of pedophiles and their defenders. from it's summit he takes a long look at his surroundings before nestling himself between the bodies of bfm and tokai. he lets out a contented sigh and says confidently, "this is the hill i want to die on"
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although i have to wonder if this is really that simple, or is it the work of some perverse rage that people would dare sully the nature of the ffxiv thread by pointing out that one of its most prominent posters is a monster
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Sep 26, 2015 16:00
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Threads always evolve into either shitheaps or hugboxes. Sometimes both. No exceptions.
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Sep 26, 2015 16:20
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Velthice posted:although i have to wonder if this is really that simple, or is it the work of some perverse rage that people would dare sully the nature of the ffxiv thread by pointing out that one of its most prominent posters is a monster this is my favourite post
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Sep 26, 2015 16:37
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Velthice posted:Holyshoot climbs up a mountain of the dead broken bodies of pedophiles and their defenders. from it's summit he takes a long look at his surroundings before nestling himself between the bodies of bfm and tokai. he lets out a contented sigh and says confidently, "this is the hill i want to die on" lmao
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KaneTW posted:this is my favourite post so confirm or deny, it's ok to gently caress children and for children to be sexualized if they're actually 1000 year old nature spirits and totally act like adults or whatever
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Sep 26, 2015 16:48
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Velthice posted:so confirm or deny, it's ok to gently caress children and for children to be sexualized if they're actually 1000 year old nature spirits and totally act like adults or whatever it's absolutely not OK to gently caress children irl but as long it's not real do whatever you want
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KaneTW posted:it's absolutely not OK to gently caress children irl but as long it's not real do whatever you want 
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