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One Piece experiment: what happens if Brook's soul leaves his body, then Law puts someone else's spirit in there? Could Brook inhabit that person's spiritless body on his own? Could Brook go back into his own body with the other person's spirit in there? Would Brook be able to possess people who haven't had their spirit removed? If Law removed Brook's spirit and switched it with another person, would Brook be able to leave his new body on his own? If Brook is outside his own body, and someone puts seastone cuffs on him, what happens to his spirit? What if it's Blackbeard who is touching him instead of seastone? What if someone throws Brook's spiritless body into the sea? Edit: more Could Kuma push a person's spirit out of their body? Could he push a shadow? d[-.-]b fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Sep 26, 2015 |
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"d[-.- posted:b" post="450691559"] He pushed out the abstract notion of "exhaustion" and "pain" from Luffy's body so... yes. Kuma's DF is so comically overpowered that, while on one hand I thought he was an awesome character, on the other I hope he never comes back because he would unbalance pretty much everything.
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Sep 26, 2015 19:15
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Finishing up Little Garden, is there ever any kind of basis given for Ms. Goldenweek's color trap power? I'm not super invested in this question having an answer, just mildly curious.
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Sep 26, 2015 20:35
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some colors are just soothing to look at. some other colors make you very angry
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Sep 26, 2015 20:42
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Bad Seafood posted:Finishing up Little Garden, is there ever any kind of basis given for Ms. Goldenweek's color trap power? Nah. It's just neat.
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Sep 26, 2015 20:45
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That's what I figured, and that's fine. I just didn't know if it was gonna end up being a "Thing" like how Kuro's super speed is really just a poor man's version of something some other guy allegedly does later (haven't read that far, I just know there's another, better speedster coming up).
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Sep 26, 2015 20:55
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quote:R: I have a question, no introductions. Did Miss Goldenweek eat one of those fruits?
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Sep 26, 2015 20:57
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It doesn't really make much sense, since she can hypnotize Luffy by painting his back. How can it have a hypnotic effect if he can't actually see the color?
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Sep 26, 2015 21:03
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Silver2195 posted:It doesn't really make much sense, since she can hypnotize Luffy by painting his back. How can it have a hypnotic effect if he can't actually see the color? Luffy's really, really stupid.
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Sep 26, 2015 21:06
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Gyges posted:That didn't really make any sense when it happened with Ace. Why did it just start burning when he was in Impell Down? Like, how does it differentiate between the guy being in a prison and chilling out at the bottom of the Moby Dick? Get the poo poo kicked out of him in an island wide fight with Blackbeard, that makes sense to cause your vivre card to react. did you forget that everyone in impel down gets tortured all the time
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Sep 26, 2015 21:08
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I really don't get this whole random dumb out of nowhere "we don't want to be heroes" thing with Fishman Island, like they've saved entire countries and islands and partied with them after and had feasts celebrating them as heroic saviors. Where was this attitude on Water 7? Just feels out of character. anyway now that I'm done that was a decent arc (and as always with OP all the end of the arc world building stuff was awesome) even if the enemies felt inconsequential (Hody or whatever wasn't even a visually/conceptually cool OP villain for me, which has to be a first...also how the hell is that pedophile Dutchman even alive? C'mon Oda, him dying was a major plot point with the Noah thing...I guess he just "passed out"). It really was just "check out our new powers as we own everyone"' as someone mentioned earlier so that did kill a lot of the tension...but I liked how it wasn't too long of an arc and I liked the Sun Pirates flashback. I think I missed a lot of the disappointment others felt because Fishman Island was never this big deal I was looking forward to during this reread...like sure they mentioned it a few times and have been meaning to go there but most of that was "oooh I wanna see a mermaid", it didn't really feel super built up ala Berserk's Fairy Island...just a cool future place they mentioned wanting to go to and it was okay/fun enough I reckon. Seeing past Arlong and Jinbe as well as Fisher Tiger was cool and I really like the idea of Jinbe becoming a member of the crew (he's way more interesting, compelling, and multi-dimensional than "I do bone jokes and my dream is meeting this whale we could drive over and meet in a couple days", Brook's fine but he's the kind of gimmicky character you expect to only last an arc and then just get cool cover stories, not become a permanent member of the crew). p.s. Poor Wadatsumi  p.p.s. Pappug is my dude 
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Sep 26, 2015 21:15
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The thing about the straw hats being heroes is that just sort of incidentally happens. Everything they've done has always been for a friend. If I remember right, them helping Vivi started out as a job before she also became their friend.
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Sep 26, 2015 22:58
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Allarion posted:The thing about the straw hats being heroes is that just sort of incidentally happens. Everything they've done has always been for a friend. If I remember right, them helping Vivi started out as a job before she also became their friend. It's this. Luffy doesn't care about people he doesn't know personally. He doesn't care about the long-term consequences of his actions, either.
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Sep 26, 2015 23:08
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Kidd/law waiting to see what completely mental thing the straw hats would do and the realisation that of course they'd have a reputation for it is one of my favourite bits of the manga
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Sep 26, 2015 23:24
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I like how Mr. 11 is literally just Speedwagon.
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Sep 26, 2015 23:26
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Also yeah, I just remembered that Luffy practically never knows anyone's backstory when he decides to punch the villain in the face, because he always falls asleep when it's told.
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Sep 26, 2015 23:32
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Allarion posted:The thing about the straw hats being heroes is that just sort of incidentally happens. Everything they've done has always been for a friend. If I remember right, them helping Vivi started out as a job before she also became their friend.
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Sep 26, 2015 23:38
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Allarion posted:Also yeah, I just remembered that Luffy practically never knows anyone's backstory when he decides to punch the villain in the face, because he always falls asleep when it's told. If they hurt his friends and his friends need help, that's all that matters.
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Sep 26, 2015 23:40
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The ultimate example of Luffy's mindset is Skypiea. After saving two cultures and ending a centuries long war, Luffy turns to his friends after the big party and says "Ok...now lets steal their poo poo and run away!". Of course the joke is the people are in the middle of deciding to give them waaay more gold than the crew ends up taking, but at the end of the day that is who Luffy is. Help people out if it comes up, whatever, just make sure you steal their poo poo and run away. He's never really accepted being a hero, and most people don't call him that to his face. They thank him for saving their <blank> or whatever, but they save the hero talk for themselves. The feasts are just "And all that terrible business is over, now we party!" as far as he's concerned. He's a pirate. He wants to be a pirate, with all that that means. As he says, a hero is a person that goes around giving other people food. Luffy wants all the food for himself. The fact he would probably use a lot of that food to have his cook make a giant feast for everyone is irrelevant.
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Sep 27, 2015 00:04
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TheFallenEvincar posted:Right and he did it for his friend the mermaid princess, tho even motivations aside it's weird to see them afterwards being all uncomfortable with the label hero when they've been celebrated as heroes at feasts before. It's just something you'd think would have come up Fishman Island was kind of an exception because of the political aspect. Luffy was pumped to punch Hody in the face, but then Jinbei started complicating matters with the hero plan and tried to tell him when and how to punch Hody in the face, and Luffy doesn't much appreciate that kind of complex bullshit even from a friend. Also this was basically half the country openly calling for his help whereas in, say, Alabasta and even Water 7 (where the city itself wasn't really under immediate threat aside from the attempted murder of the mayor) the crew was more of a behind-the-scenes force. I understand where you're coming from and like many things, Oda could have handled that part of Fishman Island better, but I kinda get what he was trying to do. Boogaleeboo posted:The ultimate example of Luffy's mindset is Skypiea. After saving two cultures and ending a centuries long war, Luffy turns to his friends after the big party and says "Ok...now lets steal their poo poo and run away!". Of course the joke is the people are in the middle of deciding to give them waaay more gold than the crew ends up taking, but at the end of the day that is who Luffy is. Help people out if it comes up, whatever, just make sure you steal their poo poo and run away. He's never really accepted being a hero, and most people don't call him that to his face. They thank him for saving their <blank> or whatever, but they save the hero talk for themselves. The feasts are just "And all that terrible business is over, now we party!" as far as he's concerned. He's a pirate. He wants to be a pirate, with all that that means. As he says, a hero is a person that goes around giving other people food. Luffy wants all the food for himself. The fact he would probably use a lot of that food to have his cook make a giant feast for everyone is irrelevant. Haha yeah I was about to make this example too. What a fantastic end to that arc.
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Sep 27, 2015 00:08
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Jose posted:did you forget that everyone in impel down gets tortured all the time In secret level 6 you just hang out in your cell, bored and shackled to the wall. The other 5 levels are full of torture. Once you pass the entrance torture hazing you just get bored and talk to other super notorious guys in other cells. Sometimes the warden comes down and gets pissed so he sprays the place with poison, but that's pretty rare. Even if there's an escape attempt they just douse the place with knock out gas.
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Sep 27, 2015 00:18
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Gyges posted:In secret level 6 you just hang out in your cell, bored and shackled to the wall. The other 5 levels are full of torture. Once you pass the entrance torture hazing you just get bored and talk to other super notorious guys in other cells. I think the idea is that spending your life with the sorts of maniacs who end up in Level 6 is way worse than anything else they can do to you. Especially since, IIRC, you have to... uhh... make your own food.
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Sep 27, 2015 00:27
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Gyges posted:In secret level 6 you just hang out in your cell, bored and shackled to the wall. The other 5 levels are full of torture. Once you pass the entrance torture hazing you just get bored and talk to other super notorious guys in other cells. Nah, if I remember right they pretty regularly send down like the Minotaurus and such down to beat on them with a giant spiked club.
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Sep 27, 2015 00:32
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They apparently "baptized" every Level 6 prisoner in a giant vat of boiling water. So it wasn't all sunshine and roses down there.
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Sep 27, 2015 00:43
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Speaking of superfluous characters, I still wonder what the bigger narrative purpose of Kinemon and Momonosuke are. For characters that are temporarily sailing with the straw hats, I tend to forget they exist. Arguably they're the Vivi for the New World, but they're hasn't been any real buildup as to where their endpoint is like there was with Vivi and Alabasta. Also Law fits the Vivi role more at this point.
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Sep 27, 2015 01:14
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They're samurai from the country Wano, which Zoro is definitely going to get something (a new sword? New techniques?) from, and they also have business at Zou, their current destination. It's also been hinted that they have something to resolve with Kaidou.
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Sep 27, 2015 01:22
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No way a new sword the 3 have too much personality. At best they get explained better.
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Sep 27, 2015 01:26
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Prison Warden posted:Nah, if I remember right they pretty regularly send down like the Minotaurus and such down to beat on them with a giant spiked club. Ace's vivre card is still burning down as he's just standing in an elevator, sitting on a ship, and then sitting on a scaffold. Considering the vivre cards does simply grow back once the danger is gone, it's probably some sort of 4th wall breaking magical knowledge. Or you could just keep your own card around like a hacked Spidey sense. poo poo guys, we're in deep poo poo. My vivre card is smoking, watch out for an ambush!
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Sep 27, 2015 02:05
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Veskit posted:No way a new sword the 3 have too much personality. At best they get explained better. i would guess the loguetown sword becomes meito
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Sep 27, 2015 02:35
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Veskit posted:No way a new sword the 3 have too much personality. At best they get explained better. Yeah would be good to get some back story on the swords, if there are any. Wano will probably be Zoro's time to shine.
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Sep 27, 2015 02:42
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Gyges posted:Ace's vivre card is still burning down as he's just standing in an elevator, sitting on a ship, and then sitting on a scaffold. Considering the vivre cards does simply grow back once the danger is gone, it's probably some sort of 4th wall breaking magical knowledge. It's loving magic you nerds
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Sep 27, 2015 03:09
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AnonSpore posted:It's loving magic you nerds It's will power. It's NOT magic.
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Sep 27, 2015 03:42
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Hah it may be cheap entertainment but I'm at the Hazard Punk arc and the bodyswitching is the most fun I've had in a while 
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Sep 27, 2015 03:46
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Keven. Just. Keven posted:It's will power. It's NOT magic. One Piece: Will Power Is Magic.
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Sep 27, 2015 04:02
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Seriously I'd keep them like this for like two arcs (they could gain valuable skills through the adversity of learning to fight in each other's bodies), the Franky as Chopper facial expressions alone
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Sep 27, 2015 04:14
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Gyges posted:Ace's vivre card is still burning down as he's just standing in an elevator, sitting on a ship, and then sitting on a scaffold. Considering the vivre cards does simply grow back once the danger is gone, it's probably some sort of 4th wall breaking magical knowledge. I thought the vivre card depicted your physical condition as much as your mental condition. As the execution approached, Ace was close to giving up on life, so even if he was physically fine then it would still burn down because he lost the will to live.
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Sep 27, 2015 04:29
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My favorite thing about Punk Hazard is how annoyed Robin gets by Franky in Chopper's body.
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Sep 27, 2015 04:54
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MrAristocrates posted:My favorite thing about Punk Hazard is how annoyed Robin gets by Franky in Chopper's body.  I think Nico Robin might actually be my favorite Strawhat, her character development and backstory provides some of the most memorable story arcs in the series, and one of my favorite badass moments is her refusing to forgive and then punishing that one Sky Priest who desecrated ancient ruins.       Just straight up smoked that dude.
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Sep 27, 2015 06:03
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Robin rules and it's a serious shame she hasn't had another moment like that ever since. It's downright criminal how underused she is.
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Her flying, refusing to join the combining mecha and threatening to rip off Frankie's balls are some of my favorite moments in the series.
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