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Alhazred posted:If you go Sweden its because you chose to, refugees don't have that luxury. You're demanding that desperate people thank you because you gave them shelter, how is that for basic human decency? Well, you see alot of refugees aren't really desperate, they come to Europe for two reasons. 1) As part of the muslim conspiracy to conquer Sweden through immigration and out-breeding. 2) Because they're lazy and don't want to work.
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Alhazred posted:If you go Sweden its because you chose to, refugees don't have that luxury. You're demanding that desperate people thank you because you gave them shelter, how is that for basic human decency? They choose to go to Sweden after they've gotten in to EU though.
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Sep 27, 2015 19:01
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Mordekai posted:They choose to go to Sweden after they've gotten in to EU though.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Well, you have to realize, Sweden is to the rest of the EU as the EU is to Iraq. Full of racists?
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Mordekai posted:They choose to go to Sweden after they've gotten in to EU though. Because they know which countries are run by Xenophobic asshats and which are not, its not the 1920's anymore. Stuff like statistics about asylum grants as well statements by leading politicians are not hard to come by online. Not to mention a Smartphone will not cost you 500 dollars in lebanon. With all that in mind, would you risk applying for asylum in Viktor "Defending Christianity" Orban's Hungary or in Sweden after coming so far and selling everything you owned back in your home country? I know I wouldn't. Ofcourse that wont stop some posters from trying to frame it as if they only were after a welfare check. This does not mean that Sweden or Germany or whathave you can or should take in everyone while the rest of the EU sit and watch, we are all in this together and all countries should abide by the same standards when it comes to asylum grants etc. Having 80% of Syrian asylum applications rejected in Hungary while the exact opposite occurs in Sweden is a sign of how hosed up Hungary is.
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OhYeah posted:How many people have been deported back to their country of origin this year from Sweden? Anyway, most countries have laws against lying about your identity/origin when applying for asylum/residency, and the punishment is usually deportation. quote:You can demand something that you have right to. As a citizen of Estonia I can demand many things from my fellow countrymen and the government, but when I go to Sweden, I couldn't, because I have neither the moral nor the legal right to do so. I'm not Swedish, I don't have family there, my tax money hasn't gone to support and expand the country and the welfare of its people. I don't expect anything, I don't take anything for granted, and if I'm given something, I'm grateful. Postorder Trollet89 posted:Because they know which countries are run by Xenophobic asshats and which are not, its not the 1920's anymore. Stuff like statistics about asylum grants as well statements by leading politicians are not hard to come by online. Not to mention a Smartphone will not cost you 500 dollars in lebanon. Scherloch fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Sep 28, 2015 |
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A lot can change in five years SplitSoul. What was the date on the third quote?
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Mordekai posted:A lot can change in five years SplitSoul. What was the date on the third quote? Likely sometime in 2010, when Hedegaard lied his way out of a conviction by claiming that he wasn't aware that a video interview, in English, for Gates of Vienna would be made public, even though the interviewer claimed different and had e-mails to support that claim. In it he claimed that Muslims as a matter of course raped their own children, and that politicians who "collaborated with the enemy" might be executed after a popular revolt. Which is funny, because Khader used the exact same interview as grounds for quitting the Free Press Society, of which Hedegaard was chairman at the time. Khader has totally lost his marbles since New Alliance was hijacked and turned into Liberal Alliance, back then he wanted to establish a counterweight to the Danish People's Party, now he's batting for people who excuse violence against hijabis like his own goddamn mother. Zornig earns the label for being guilty of the crime of helping a refugee family. He's a piece of poo poo. Full stop.
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The Danish state succeeded in murdering the younger brother. http://politik.tv2.dk/2015-09-28-var-raedselsslagen-inden-afrejsen-udvist-16-aarig-angiveligt-doed-i-afghanistan
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http://www.dn.se/arkiv/nyheter/vansterextrem-grupp-lagger-nedquote:Den vänsterextrema gruppen Revolutionära fronten lägger ner verksamheten. Det meddelar den på sin Facebook-sida. 
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So what is the new name for them now? Allt åt alla ( who ran out of money last week) or something else? The extreme left seem to consist of numerous loose organizations with members floating between them. Calling Rutkowski to the thread.
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Sep 28, 2015 10:41
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You've got a very strange view of RF.
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Xoidanor posted:You've got a very strange view of RF. Enlighten me then. As far as I know they are left-wing extremists with a tendency for violence. Last year a bunch of people got kicked out of V for having too close ties to RF.
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Haha that is like the exact opposite of what your previous post made it seem you thought. Yes, that is what they are.
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Last week tonight with John Oliver had the immigrant crisis as the main story. Denmark got a small mention for the retarded newspaper adds (thanks Støjberg). Pretty reasonable coverage, it did however highlight that it seems like alot of the immigrants are fans of days of our lives, which I personally think represents a serious threat to all that's good in the world.
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Last week tonight with John Oliver had the immigrant crisis as the main story. Denmark got a small mention for the retarded newspaper adds (thanks Støjberg). Pretty reasonable coverage, it did however highlight that it seems like alot of the immigrants are fans of days of our lives, which I personally think represents a serious threat to all that's good in the world. It was a momentous occasion where, for once, the Liberals didn't bow their heads when the business community collectively went, "Oh-n-n-n-nononono! No! NO." Shame it had to be for something that stupid and lovely.
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Xoidanor posted:Haha that is like the exact opposite of what your previous post made it seem you thought. Yes, that is what they are. How do you arrive at that conclusion?  In other news, the government is plundering SJ and Akademiska Hus to fill holes in their budget (which btw is based on the summers migration prognosis, next is due in a few weeks). Akademiska Hus is interesting because it is literally the state taking back money it says it have given to science, as anyone who have worked in academia knows. Also, MigV is investigating whether it is feasible to build an actual refugee camp in Rinkaby, an old military exercise field. Here's hoping for a mild winter. I have been on that exact place when it was -20C.
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Cardiac posted:How do you arrive at that conclusion? Laboratorier? Feh, vi har immigranter som skal busses hit.
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Cardiac posted:Also, MigV is investigating whether it is feasible to build an actual refugee camp in Rinkaby, an old military exercise field. Here's hoping for a mild winter. I have been on that exact place when it was -20C. Looked it up and it was apparently used as a tent camp for refugees in 1992. Pretty interesting, there were discussions about setting up camps closer to the conflict back then, too. http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regionalt/skane/sa-sag-det-ut-da-1
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Cardiac posted:So what is the new name for them now? Allt åt alla ( who ran out of money last week) or something else? The extreme left seem to consist of numerous loose organizations with members floating between them. Uhh, I'm probably not the defender of RF you're looking for, having been attacked by some of their members in Stockholm and all that.
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Rutkowski posted:Uhh, I'm probably not the defender of RF you're looking for, having been attacked by some of their members in Stockholm and all that. Eh, I am not looking for a defender, just more information regarding RF out of sheer curiousity. You do seem to have more information on the left than the rest of the Swedish posters here. Not everything needs to be adversial here. BTW, you don't happen to have a troll account on Flashback? Captain Scandinaiva posted:Looked it up and it was apparently used as a tent camp for refugees in 1992. Pretty interesting, there were discussions about setting up camps closer to the conflict back then, too. I think we used that spot after WW2 for storing people running away from the Baltic states and Soviet. Those people we later deported back to Soviet. The good thing about a refugee camp in Rinkaby is that we will get a worse reputation and probably lower levels of immigrants. The bad things are obvious. The budget of the municipality will be hosed, as well as the schools unless new procedures are applied. You don't dump 10k people into a 40k municipality without drastics consequences. Malmö which is a bigger city have already said that for the next years they are forced to only build schools just in order to keep up with the inflow (as reported in Sydsvenskan). Anything else is out of the budget.
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http://www.nrk.no/verden/_-verden-har-ikke-villet-ta-jobben-med-a-stanse-is-1.12577260 I was thinking that it probably also has something to do with the US not really minding IS giving it to Assad, and that they're hoping Russia might expend some of their military might getting bogged down helping him out. I mean, they otherwise seem perfectly happy to spend tax payer dollars and lives fighting in the middle east, so either this area is not all that important to them or they've got something to gain by letting things go on. I'm no expert, but people seem to be clamoring for IS to get hosed over, and nobody seems to care that much about continued drone strikes or whatnot, so how negative could public opinion of more involvement be?
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Biomute posted:http://www.nrk.no/verden/_-verden-har-ikke-villet-ta-jobben-med-a-stanse-is-1.12577260 I think one of the main reasons the US hasn't taken any direct, troops on the ground type, action against IS is because they haven't attacked the US mainland. Al-Queda attacked the US military openly when they bombed the USS Cole in Yemen but the US wasn't interested in attacking them, probably because they'd be forced to declear war on Sudan and Afghanistan and break a ton of international laws in the process. It wasn't until 9/11 and the public outcry forced their hand and they had to take action that they actually started thinking about putting boots on the ground but even then they were hesitant and they probably let Bin Laden get away at the start of the war because they relied on local militia to try and capture him. A strategy that they're still employing in Syria because it makes it look like they care while at the same time they can also wash their hands of any failures or wrong doing that it eventually leads to. And even if the public wants their politicians to take action against IS, theres almost no success stories of international intervention working in recent years. Afghanistan is a mess and the Taliban are resurging. Libya isn't looking much better and Iraq is it's own story. Not to mention that US/international intervention in the middle east is what led to the creation of IS and I can't see any politician going back in to try and right the wrongs of the past with that knowledge hanging over their head. As to letting Russia do some work, you're probably right. It's a win/win for the US in the same way that letting Turkey bomb both IS and the Kurds is.
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this belongs in the ME-thread tbh, and they've been over this quite thoroughly in the last few weeks
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Atal Vataman posted:this belongs in the ME-thread tbh, and they've been over this quite thoroughly in the last few weeks
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Frankly, any discussion about Sweden belongs there too. Especially our derails about wartorn ar-Malmø. I heard there are heavy clashes between the FSA and JaN near Pildammsparken at the moment. When will Assad stop dropping barrel bombs at civilians at their fikapaus???
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I don't think the thread natives can read our "Immigrant" language. TLDR: The refugees in my town are protesting over the inedible bland POS "food" we are giving them and demand real food. On one hand I agree with them. It is inedible bland POS food. On the other hand, It is literally the same food our school children (age 7-18) eat for lunch. Cost of the ingredients is up to 72 cents per plate.
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adhuin posted:I don't think the thread natives can read our "Immigrant" language. As it turns out the refugees wasn't so much complaining over bland food as they was complaining that the food was literally making them sick.
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Alhazred posted:As it turns out the refugees wasn't so much complaining over bland food as they was complaining that the food was literally making them sick. Bullshit. It turned out the protestors in the case were complaing about beef, rice and vegetables which made nobody sick. Also the people in question are already served a special menu by the service that prepares the food, because the stuff they prepare to Finns isn't good enough for them and they will complain (like, soups and potatoes and stuff).
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No, gently caress you. You abandoned the discussion when you were asked to substantiate you claims, you don't get to come back here and post like the retard you are without first doing so. Besides, this is the Scandinavian thread, and that link clearly refers to something that has happened in Finland (noted for not being part of Scandinavia). Then again, you're obviously a bit soft in the head, so I don't expect you to understand the difference.
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Scherloch posted:No, gently caress you. You abandoned the discussion when you were asked to substantiate you claims, you don't get to come back here and post like the retard you are without first doing so. I just posted a link, I didn't comment it in any way. As for abandoning the discussion, I'm all for continuing it, but you brush aside every sample of evidence which suggests that there might be actual, substantial problems. This is what I'm currently watching, you are welcome to discuss it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cFYmhQMks8
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Ligur posted:Bullshit. I think you have to face the facts: Finland is one of the worst countries in the world. There have been so many complaints and criticism that there is no point of denying it any further. Finland is third world country. I'm sorry my friend.
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Maybe everyone will ignore us now, like the rest of the third world countries 
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punakone posted:Maybe everyone will ignore us now, like the rest of the third world countries They would if you would SHUT THE gently caress UP ONCE IN A WHILE
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OhYeah posted:I think you have to face the facts: Finland is one of the worst countries in the world. There have been so many complaints and criticism that there is no point of denying it any further. Finland is third world country. I'm sorry my friend. Cool, I'm fine with that.
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Starshark posted:They would if you would SHUT THE gently caress UP ONCE IN A WHILE Did you hear about Finland today?
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adhuin posted:On one hand I agree with them. It is inedible bland POS food. On the other hand, It is literally the same food our school children (age 7-18) eat for lunch. To call the bland and barely edible swill served at the average school cafeteria food is an insult to the over 10 000 years of culinary development that mankind has gone through. Kids only eat it because a: It's only 1 of their third meals a day and b: Because they unlike adults cannot protest. Sure, people will get all the calories and nutrients they need but you will make them miserable in the process.
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