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read what trump does then recall that rich people, rich society, has never accepted trump and have always looked down upon him openly trump just wants to be rich and have rich friends but they have made fun of him for more than 40 years he doesn't want to help the poor but he does want to gently caress anyone with money
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You know, wonks kept insisting that Trump would be crushed as candidates leave and votes consolidate around an establishment pick, but what if this keeps happening? What if candidates only leave long after Count Trump has sucked their votes down to 0%? Whats the establishment plan then?
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Sep 27, 2015 20:14
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Neurolimal posted:Whats the establishment plan then? Draft Romney.
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r.y.f.s.o. posted:Cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance is when you are aware of holding two conflicting opinions, something Carson does not have. E: Carson is not aware of his conflicting opinions.
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Sep 27, 2015 20:19
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spunkshui posted:Carson doesn't believe in evolution. Gaze into the abyss and weep: http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/evolution-creationism-intelligent-design.aspx
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Sep 27, 2015 20:23
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To be honest raising the cap gains tax is something we desperately need to do and that the head of the GOP field is calling for just that without even using coded language is a real breath of fresh air.
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Sep 27, 2015 20:29
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agreed one of many reasons i would vote trump
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Philthy posted:So do Republicans wake up every morning, stretch, sit down enjoy a nice cup of coffee, look out over their beautiful back yard and watch the squirrels carry nuts away, then come inside, thinking how great this coffee is and how Earth is such a beautiful place to live, pop on the TV, and see people screaming about brown people invading our country and then get all angry and suddenly the rest of the day illegal immigrants is ruining their lives? quote:An extraordinarily successful but notoriously ruthless banker was asked once what accounted for the secret to his success. More or less.
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Cronodoculous posted:The whole "higher taxes for hedge fund managers" thing is so hilariously specific. Is his full tax plan going to include rate hikes for People That Kick Dogs, That Guy That Cut You Off In Traffic The Other Day, and The Actual Boogeyman too? Because literally every wealthy person in America gives their money to hedge fund managers who multiply the money on Wall Street then give themselves a cut as income they don't have to pay taxes on. They make millions, some billions of dollars a year by playing with the combined capital of the 1%rs like Monopoly money and giving a cut back to themselves under private equity loopholes. There is so much money involved in these exchanges every day that do not foster economic development like a tax paying job creating business would. They have so much money that they can influence politics waaaaay too much. They are also some of Hillary's biggest supporters. Trump is going to sieze these fuckers assets like the government does to everyone else's money under the tax code to create actual revenue for the government. Every other Republican is dogmatically against increasing revenue with the Norquist pledge bullshit through, which would make Social Security and Medicare eventually disappear as the rich pig Baby Boomer generation cashes in. Millennials probably will be the first American generation that will be working retail until we drop dead in the middle of aisle 9 as "retirement" ceases to exist as an idea unless the Republican Congress passes comprehensive tax reform soon and we've seen Obama demonstrate how good the Democrats are at managing that. Donald Trump will be the Millennial's Candidate. He's the only one who both cares enough and can get it done. Smoothrich fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Sep 27, 2015 |
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I gotta say, no matter what other policies Trump supports, if he can raise taxes significantly on Wall Street, all is forgiven. Of course he won't be able to do that and will most likely be able to enact his more terrible policies because republican's agree with those, so it's just an idle thought. But still 
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Third World Reggin posted:read what trump does then recall that rich people, rich society, has never accepted trump and have always looked down upon him openly Trump seems like the type of rich person who made his money in an ostensibly "real" market, i.e. real estate, and as such disdains those who just manipulate numbers and push papers to generate wealth out of capital while adding zero actual value to the economy (and probably detracting from it). Donald Trump is an actual real-life "job creator" in that his industry employees people and builds real things, and probably resents GOP pols blanket-labeling every wealthy person as such.
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Sep 27, 2015 21:04
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Markorjoshua posted:Cognitive dissonance is when you are aware of holding two conflicting opinions, something Carson does not have. There's nothing conflicting about being a neurosurgeon and not believing in evolution. It's why MDs tend to have a much poorer understanding of science than actual biologists.
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RBC posted:lol
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how many genocides will you compromise for to raise taxes on the rich two or three
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Neurolimal posted:You know, wonks kept insisting that Trump would be crushed as candidates leave and votes consolidate around an establishment pick, but what if this keeps happening? What if candidates only leave long after Count Trump has sucked their votes down to 0%? Whats the establishment plan then? Either way, it's not establishment candidates not dropping out where the fun is, it's what Carson decides to do. Here, have another iteration of The Ugly Plot (2015/5/10 is the first poll after Carson and Fiorina entered the race, 2015/6/18 after Trump, and then after the two debates):  Notice that the 'religious' faction started to rise actually halfway through last year - to some extent, Carson has been taking over Huckabee's people, no? So, the Republicans are right now basically a coalition of four factions. The Paulites are irrelevant, but I don't think the religious people are.
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Tommorows tax plan will determine for me whether Trump is the best republican candidate, or merely the least worst. I think that he uses the title of "hedge fund manager" as a catch all for stock brokers, investment bankers, whatever Mitt Romney did at Bain capital, and CEOs who are just glorified middle managers. Basically anyone that takes in money and dosent create a real good or service. Either way I am very excited.
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stoutfish posted:how many genocides will you compromise for to raise taxes on the rich one: white genocide
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Third World Reggin posted:read what trump does then recall that rich people, rich society, has never accepted trump and have always looked down upon him openly This is Nixon to a T
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The Nastier Nate posted:Tommorows tax plan will determine for me whether Trump is the best republican candidate, or merely the least worst. I think that he uses the title of "hedge fund manager" as a catch all for stock brokers, investment bankers, whatever Mitt Romney did at Bain I to am excited for New York Mussolini to throw us a single populist bone so he can justify genocide.
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what do you people think donald trump actually does? like, is your concept of real estate built entirely around workers continually demolishing and building things?
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The best part is that it's the one populist bone that he'd have absolutely no chance of enacting. Whereas war/deportation would be well within his purview, especially with a Republican congress.
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Powercrazy posted:I gotta say, no matter what other policies Trump supports, if he can raise taxes significantly on Wall Street, all is forgiven. You are exactly the same kind of leftist that was excited about Hitlers rise to power because "He was taking on the rich elite" and "Tearing down the people screwing over the Volk" *sweeps genocide under the rug*
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Based on those polls, I have a feeling you will soon see the GOP Establishment/Big Money beginning to line up behind Rubio.
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Cronodoculous posted:The whole "higher taxes for hedge fund managers" thing is so hilariously specific. Is his full tax plan going to include rate hikes for People That Kick Dogs, That Guy That Cut You Off In Traffic The Other Day, and The Actual Boogeyman too? Either he wants to get rid of the carried-interest loophole or get rid of the special capital gains tax rate entirely. Prohably the former, since that's what hedge fund managers use to reclassify their ordinary income as capital gains.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Based on those polls, I have a feeling you will soon see the GOP Establishment/Big Money beginning to line up behind Rubio. When that happens they will be lobbing Trump a nice easy soft ball for him to say "of course these rich motherfuckers are backing someone else, they know when I'm president the gravy train is over"
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RBC posted:what do you people think donald trump actually does? like, is your concept of real estate built entirely around workers continually demolishing and building things? he makes deals, duh
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my bony fealty posted:he makes deals, duh
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my bony fealty posted:he makes deals, duh Deals so yooge he wrote the book on deals!  Also featuring one of the most Trump quotes ever 
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Sep 27, 2015 21:38
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personally im looking forward to the real life monopoly man creating more jobs with his anti-establishment tax plan
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FlamingLiberal posted:Based on those polls, I have a feeling you will soon see the GOP Establishment/Big Money beginning to line up behind Rubio. Lotka Volterra posted:The best part is that it's the one populist bone that he'd have absolutely no chance of enacting. Whereas war/deportation would be well within his purview, especially with a Republican congress. 
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my bony fealty posted:he makes deals, duh NYC and Jersey real estate development is a clusterfuck of egos, unions, politicians, regulations, literally the mafia, wasted tax dollars, squandered jobs, half finished projects that never get completed while serving as piggybanks for a revolving door of contracts, and an incredible amount of corruption. NJ Senator Robert Menendez has an ongoing and ever widening corruption investigation looking into the biggest mall in America that hasn't opened after being built a decade ago. It will probably ruin him like most NJ Democrats that end up in jail for the same bribery kickbacks and nepotism poo poo. Trump is famous for actually completing any construction jobs at all, on time and under budget, instead of turning them into decades long debacles of profiteering and stalled negations. Smoothrich fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Sep 27, 2015 |
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Smoothrich posted:NYC and Jersey real estate development is a clusterfuck of egos, unions, politicians regulations, literally the mafia, wasted tax dollars, squandered jobs, half finished projects that never completely but serve as piggybanks for a revolving door of contracts, and an incredible amount of corruption. NJ Senator Robert Menendez has an ongoing and ever widening corruption investigation looking into the biggest mall in America that hasn't opened after being built a decade ago. It will probably ruin him like most NJ Democrats that end up in jail for the same bribery kickbacks and nepotism poo poo. TRUMP WILL MAKE THE TRAINS RUN ON TIME
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There are interesting similarities between candidate Trump's populism and Berlusconismo. Some similarity between them as men as well, although Berlusconi was a better businessman. I did a google search after I started this post and I see there are about a thousand op-eds comparing Trump to Berlusconi. I'm glad.
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Smoothrich posted:NYC and Jersey real estate development is a clusterfuck of egos, unions, politicians, regulations, literally the mafia, wasted tax dollars, squandered jobs, half finished projects that never get completed while serving as piggybanks for a revolving door of contracts, and an incredible amount of corruption. NJ Senator Robert Menendez has an ongoing and ever widening corruption investigation looking into the biggest mall in America that hasn't opened after being built a decade ago. It will probably ruin him like most NJ Democrats that end up in jail for the same bribery kickbacks and nepotism poo poo. You don't know poo poo about development in the tri-state area. Also Xanadu/Dream's completed area is smaller than the King of Prussia mall's current area, and the new expansion currently under construction is gonna exceed Xanadu/Dream's planned 2.8 million square feet of leasable space.
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The Shart of the Deal.
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The Nastier Nate posted:Tommorows tax plan will determine for me whether Trump is the best republican candidate, or merely the least worst. I think that he uses the title of "hedge fund manager" as a catch all for stock brokers, investment bankers, whatever Mitt Romney did at Bain It's probably like three guys, who he will name specifically. Joe, Tim, and Bryant. Those guys are dicks and cost him millions.
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FAUXTON posted:The Shart of the Deal. "I'm really rich. In fiber."
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