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So there's a documentary film out in the UK at the moment about the singer Orion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i3la8GbE-o For those who don't know, two years after Elvis' death, a soundalike called Orion began touring while wearing a mask and a surprising number of people (fans and industry professionals alike) swore up and down that he was Elvis (despite being the wrong height, wrong build, having the wrong colour eyes etc). It's an interesting look at how people can become so fixated on a legend that the person behind the legend ceases to matter, and can even be replaced entirely. I have no idea if Kojima knows about Orion but it's a fun parallel.
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Snak posted:Like he won't be able to just build more as soon as he reaches dry land. I'm sure the first thing he does is tip an old person out of their hoverround. And then claim that they threatened him and that it was self-defense. They MADE him do it! I really wish there was a tape of Huey being interrogated by coast guards.
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Sep 27, 2015 22:12
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Party Boat posted:So there's a documentary film out in the UK at the moment about the singer Orion. Elvis died while BB was in a coma. Coincidence? Ahab was really Elvis.
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Sep 27, 2015 22:13
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Castor Poe posted:I really wish there was a video of Huey being thrown down the stairs by coast guards.
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Sep 27, 2015 22:14
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Funky Valentine posted:Huey builds new legs and spends the rest of his pathetic life scared shitless that Big Boss, Miller, and Ocelot are going to have him offed in the night. I like this idea. I remember Batman the Animated Series has the Riddler episode ending with the guy who fired Enigma fearing for his life, just sitting in his apartment holding a shotgun in the dark at all times.
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Sep 27, 2015 22:31
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Reminder that Huey gets cucked to death.
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Sep 27, 2015 22:32
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SynthOrange posted:Reminder that Huey gets cucked to death.
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Sep 27, 2015 22:34
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MGS2 was the perfect game for both 2001 and 2013.
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Sep 27, 2015 22:35
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Incredible that MGS2 both predicted the concept of memes, and more specifically the most dangerous one of all... the "cuck" meme.
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Sep 27, 2015 22:42
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So if I was in charge of writing game scripts, here is how I would do it. Your mission is to save a rebel fighter from a horde of Soviets. They've camped out in front of a huge building and the rebel is sniping the crap out of them. You have to sneak to the target because they're antsy and will shoot anyone who approaches, but you have to move fast because the Soviets will just bomb the building if it takes too long. When you finally get to the sniper, surprise, it's a girl. She almost shoots Big Boss but he's got D Dog with him and he sniffs and licks her and the situation is happily defused. Boss decides that this "Little Wolf" has been a child soldier too long to reform, and has already lost Eli and his boys, so he swears he'll never take his eyes off this one, even if it means taking her into battle. Miller is aghast but Boss says "she's one with the gun. If we take it from her now, she'll have nothing left." Funky Valentine posted:Little Wolf rides on Venom's shoulders into battle. Yesss. Speedball fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Sep 28, 2015 |
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Sep 27, 2015 23:08
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Speedball posted:So if I was in charge of writing game scripts, here is ho I would do it. Your mission is to save a rebel fighter from a horde of Soviets. They've camped out in front of a huge building and the rebel is sniping the crap out of them. You have to sneak to the target because they're antsy and will shoot anyone who approaches, but you have to move fast because the Soviets will just bomb the building if it takes too long. When you finally get to the sniper, surprise, it's a girl. She almost shoots Big Boss but he's got D Dog with him and he sniffs and licks her and the situation is happily defused. I hear that final line in Ocelot's voice, but yeah, that's p good.
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Sep 27, 2015 23:12
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Little Wolf rides on Venom's shoulders into battle.
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Sep 27, 2015 23:20
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Speedball posted:So if I was in charge of writing game scripts, here is ho I would do it. Your mission is to save a rebel fighter from a horde of Soviets. They've camped out in front of a huge building and the rebel is sniping the crap out of them. You have to sneak to the target because they're antsy and will shoot anyone who approaches, but you have to move fast because the Soviets will just bomb the building if it takes too long. When you finally get to the sniper, surprise, it's a girl. She almost shoots Big Boss but he's got D Dog with him and he sniffs and licks her and the situation is happily defused. I think chapter 2 should've been collecting the lame group of bosses from mg1- no Sniper Wolf, you get the Machinegun kid and Shotmaker.
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Sep 27, 2015 23:21
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"Snake, the prisoner you just rescued claims he was trained by NASA to fight extraterrestrials"
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Sep 27, 2015 23:26
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Incredible that MGS2 both predicted the concept of memes, and more specifically the most dangerous one of all... the "cuck" meme. Memes as a concept existed long before MGS2 and the internet. Not as long as cucking though
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Sep 27, 2015 23:27
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Sigma-X posted:Memes as a concept existed long before MGS2 and the internet. Not as long as cucking though "Getting cucked" (unlike cucking) is like, the original meme. It predates spoken language and, almost by definition, can't be passed on genetically. TIL The Vocal Chord Parasites invented cucking.
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Sep 27, 2015 23:31
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Panzeh posted:I think chapter 2 should've been collecting the lame group of bosses from mg1- no Sniper Wolf, you get the Machinegun kid and Shotmaker. there is actually a "shoot maker" in the game you can recruit but i can't for the life of me find the image. maybe i dreamt it up.
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Sep 27, 2015 23:31
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Huey's sudden shift from not-Otacon to Otacon-the-Mad-Scientist was a little weird. I feel almost like I missed something somewhere in Peace Walker or Ground Zeroes (which I didn't play) that drastically changed him. I'm also kind of "eh" on how much Big Boss changed between Peace Walker and Phantom Pain. Ground Zeroes obviously has a lot to do with that--Paz's death and all--but it really sucks the heroism out of him.
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Sep 27, 2015 23:55
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Colapops posted:Huey's sudden shift from not-Otacon to Otacon-the-Mad-Scientist was a little weird. I feel almost like I missed something somewhere in Peace Walker or Ground Zeroes (which I didn't play) that drastically changed him. I think the main thing that happened was that Huey got a job offer from Cipher around the time of GZ and they made him an offer he couldn't refuse. He wanted their offer so much that he was completely willing to sell out his old comrades to make robots for Cipher. None of this is really stated, but it's pretty clear that's what they're implying whenever they mention that Huey escaped the destruction of MSF on Cipher choppers unharmed. Big Boss stopped being a hero a long time ago. 
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Sep 27, 2015 23:59
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Funky Valentine posted:Little Wolf rides on Venom's shoulders into battle. You joke, but this could work. Like how you can use a secondary weapon while carrying someone, exceptnow they aren't dead weight and shoot anyone who gets close.
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Sep 28, 2015 00:01
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ChaosArgate posted:I think the main thing that happened was that Huey got a job offer from Cipher around the time of GZ and they made him an offer he couldn't refuse. He wanted their offer so much that he was completely willing to sell out his old comrades to make robots for Cipher. None of this is really stated, but it's pretty clear that's what they're implying whenever they mention that Huey escaped the destruction of MSF on Cipher choppers unharmed. I was taking all of that into consideration with what I said, too. Hopping ship to Cipher--after seeing what Snake could do and the resources at his disposal--is kind of whatever in and of itself but then to go on to murder Strangelove, pull the parasite infestation poo poo on MB, etc. is just going nuts. It's also why I said I felt like I missed some crucial plot point somewhere; the shift in his characterization is just so enormous to me it's like some other character got rolled into Huey or vice versa.
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Sep 28, 2015 00:06
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ChaosArgate posted:I think the main thing that happened was that Huey got a job offer from Cipher around the time of GZ and they made him an offer he couldn't refuse. He wanted their offer so much that he was completely willing to sell out his old comrades to make robots for Cipher. None of this is really stated, but it's pretty clear that's what they're implying whenever they mention that Huey escaped the destruction of MSF on Cipher choppers unharmed. Huey was also like "Oh hey Boss what if we built our own Metal Gear?" and then "You know we could put a nuke on it too!" Huey was anything but against the nuke in Peace Walker.
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Sep 28, 2015 00:08
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Colapops posted:I'm also kind of "eh" on how much Big Boss changed between Peace Walker and Phantom Pain. Ground Zeroes obviously has a lot to do with that--Paz's death and all--but it really sucks the heroism out of him. I'd like to know what happened to Big Boss between PW and GZ to have a sudden change of heart for Paz. Did he forget that she was double agent who played him like a fiddle and tried to nuke his rear end with his own metal gear?
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Sep 28, 2015 00:09
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cool mod, http://www.nexusmods.com/phantompain/mods/45/ lets you play any mission in subsistence style.
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Sep 28, 2015 00:13
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Castor Poe posted:I'd like to know what happened to Big Boss between PW and GZ to have a sudden change of heart for Paz. Did he forget that she was double agent who played him like a fiddle and tried to nuke his rear end with his own metal gear? It's funny you mention that. In Peace Walker it's kind of implied that Paz was not entirely willing to be a double-triple-ultra-agent, but listening to the tapes in Phantom Pain you learn that not only was it what she wanted, she killed (and left to die) numerous other people to get there. I'm starting to realize how much more I liked Peace Walker's story than this game's.
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Sep 28, 2015 00:14
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Speedball posted:You joke, but this could work. Like how you can use a secondary weapon while carrying someone, exceptnow they aren't dead weight and shoot anyone who gets close. I still think a saddle for D-Dog is the way to go. Then guards could be like... "Is that a child riding a dog?" "No, it's some kind of sniper-wolf!"
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Sep 28, 2015 00:15
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Castor Poe posted:I'd like to know what happened to Big Boss between PW and GZ to have a sudden change of heart for Paz. Did he forget that she was double agent who played him like a fiddle and tried to nuke his rear end with his own metal gear? Presumably he heard the diaries she left where she has a change of heart and likes MSF and wants to stay and possibly have babies with Chico but is still way too scared of what Zero will do to her if she doesn't go through with her mission.
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Sep 28, 2015 00:21
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Castor Poe posted:I'd like to know what happened to Big Boss between PW and GZ to have a sudden change of heart for Paz. Did he forget that she was double agent who played him like a fiddle and tried to nuke his rear end with his own metal gear? e. Oh poo poo completely mixed up acronyms and that's the completely wrong games. zedprime fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Sep 28, 2015 |
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Sep 28, 2015 00:28
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Castor Poe posted:I'd like to know what happened to Big Boss between PW and GZ to have a sudden change of heart for Paz. Did he forget that she was double agent who played him like a fiddle and tried to nuke his rear end with his own metal gear? What change of heart? He's anti-Paz at the end of PW and anti-Paz at the start of GZ. When we first hear from him in Ground Zeroes on the pre-mission tapes, he's saying stuff like "Blacksite? Nice." in regards to Paz's predicament and goes to Camp Omega with the intention of either kidnapping her so MSF can torture her or executing her. It's only after he's confronted with the terrible nature of Camp Omega that you could say he has a change of heart: he starts to show sympathy for her (see: his body language when you find her strung up, putting her in the recovery position when you set her down at the LZ) and then by the time she explodes he's yelling NOOOOOOOOOOO before the medic gets a head full of Paz's rib cage.
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Sep 28, 2015 00:31
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While we're fan-ficcing how FOXHOUND members came to be, imagine recruiting Decoy Octopus. You get a tipoff that he's in <x outpost>. You then have to take out every guard non-lethally and manually check if they're Decoy Octopus in disguise.
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Sep 28, 2015 00:40
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The most baffling change between this and GZ is that I can't find a way to compare my times or my score to my Steam friends.
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Sep 28, 2015 00:49
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Big Boss still kinda cares for Paz in GZ though. Like, if you set her down somewhere safe when extracting her, he goes out of his way to prop her up comfortably. His comment of "nice" regarding the black site sounded sarcastic to me.
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Sep 28, 2015 00:59
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You basically have to disregard the ending of PW to make sense out of the whole thing. The game ends with a butthurt Big Boss rejecting The Boss' ideology of peace and turning into an emotionally broken delusional war mongering angry rear end in a top hat. Him giving a single gently caress about a traitor who not only tried to destroy his little Disney Land for mercenaries, but also played him for a fool, something that BB doesn't take too kindly, is just baffling. But hey, Metal Gear.
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Sep 28, 2015 01:46
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Even Big Boss at his most "8 year-old enraged that mom lied to him about Santa" mode thinks that what was done to Paz was just beyond the pale.
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Sep 28, 2015 01:50
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Castor Poe posted:You basically have to disregard the ending of PW to make sense out of the whole thing. The game ends with a butthurt Big Boss rejecting The Boss' ideology of peace and turning into an emotionally broken delusional war mongering angry rear end in a top hat. Him giving a single gently caress about a traitor who not only tried to destroy his little Disney Land for mercenaries, but also played him for a fool, something that BB doesn't take too kindly, is just baffling. But hey, Metal Gear. I mean, arguable, Big Boss doesn't ever care that professionals fight against him. Ocelot was basically his enemy in 3, he killed the Boss will he still loved her... He doesn't care what atrocities people commit before he recruits them, and he totally understands different professional motivations for fighting. Big Boss values personal relationships and professional courtesy more than whose side anyone is on. I could totally see him forgiving Paz. However, the more important aspect of this is that Venom is the one who is forgiving Paz in TPP, and we have to question how much of GZ was actually simulation/false memory and is also from Venom's perspective. Maybe the real Big Boss never did forgive Paz, but Medic did.
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EngineerSean posted:The most baffling change between this and GZ is that I can't find a way to compare my times or my score to my Steam friends. I just want people to know how good I am at driving on two wheels
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Sep 28, 2015 01:56
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The actual Big Boss straight-up quotes the last Phantom Paz tape so who knows really.
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Is Venom Snake a better person than Naked Snake (Venom trying to recruit Child Soldiers aside cause Kaz put the kabash on that)? Is it because Venom's playing an idealized version of Big Boss while the real one is an actual dirtbag?
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Castor Poe posted:You basically have to disregard the ending of PW to make sense out of the whole thing. The game ends with a butthurt Big Boss rejecting The Boss' ideology of peace and turning into an emotionally broken delusional war mongering angry rear end in a top hat. Him giving a single gently caress about a traitor who not only tried to destroy his little Disney Land for mercenaries, but also played him for a fool, something that BB doesn't take too kindly, is just baffling. But hey, Metal Gear.
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Funky Valentine posted:The actual Big Boss straight-up quotes the last Phantom Paz tape so who knows really. Well, that's a flashback, so what probably happened is that Venom heard him say that while he was hanging unconscious upside-down in the truck. He then integrated it into his delusion. edit: SgtSteel91 posted:Is Venom Snake a better person than Naked Snake (Venom trying to recruit Child Soldiers aside cause Kaz put the kabash on that)? Is it because Venom's playing an idealized version of Big Boss while the real one is an actual dirtbag? Snak fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Sep 28, 2015 |
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