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Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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While I do not think the Donald can win me over with these tax plans, if the rhetorical space becomes a zone between Sanders Thought (with Hillary perhaps catching up in a more modest way) and Donald Trump's "gently caress Those Guys" tax proposals, I think it will be an election we can feel good about. Domestically at least.

Of course, this might cause a second Business Plot.

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008


Yes. Yes.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Who are those two men on the right supposed to be

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

I really hope some right wing piece of garbage buys that so the artist can send them a thank you letter explaining how she gave the proceeds to a charity helping migrants.

Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

FlamingLiberal posted:

Who are those two men on the right supposed to be

Rand Paul, JEB!(?)

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

FlamingLiberal posted:

Who are those two men on the right supposed to be

One appears to be Rand Paul. Can't tell who the other one is. Maybe Bernie? Maybe Jeb?

William Bear
Oct 26, 2012

"That's what they all say!"

fade5 posted:

Definitely, the big question now is whether Rubio folds like weak, low-energy Jeb! has, or if he has half a spine in there somewhere.

Rubio won't last long one Trump's focus turns fully to him. Maybe...

Jeb:low-energy::Rubio:poorly-hydrated?

NotJesus
Jan 17, 2007

meristem posted:

Here, have another iteration of The Ugly Plot (2015/5/10 is the first poll after Carson and Fiorina entered the race, 2015/6/18 after Trump, and then after the two debates)
If you're the one making that plot,
1) Add markers for the debates and for when candidates drop
2) Use different colors instead of shades of red and orange. Some of us are not racist like you; we can't see color :smug:

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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William Bear posted:

Rubio won't last long one Trump's focus turns fully to him. Maybe...

Jeb:low-energy::Rubio:poorly-hydrated?
Here's my advice to Marco - Mark - whatever he calls himself now. Do not, my friend, become addicted to water; it will take hold of you, and you will regret its absence. Now if you'll excuse me I need to see off some of my people; they're making a major deal, and I don't have time to talk to losers.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

Vox Nihili posted:

One appears to be Rand Paul. Can't tell who the other one is. Maybe Bernie? Maybe Jeb?

Pretty sure it's Jeb! I don't think Trump fans care much about Bernie.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Third World Reggin posted:

read what trump does then recall that rich people, rich society, has never accepted trump and have always looked down upon him openly

trump just wants to be rich and have rich friends but they have made fun of him for more than 40 years

he doesn't want to help the poor but he does want to gently caress anyone with money

A rich outcast who wants to get power to gently caress over the rich(er) people who treated him like poo poo is kinda amusing to watch at least.

Lotka Volterra posted:

The best part is that it's the one populist bone that he'd have absolutely no chance of enacting. Whereas war/deportation would be well within his purview, especially with a Republican congress.

Collecting and deporting tens of millions of people is logistically impossible even if he has a supermajority of congressional support unless he can get a few hundred thousand volunteers to join the Trumpstaffel. He'd have a better shot at bullying the GOP to back him on raising taxes on capital gains than he would of getting his immigration enforcement put in to effect without declaring nationwide martial law.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug

Evil Fluffy posted:

Collecting and deporting tens of millions of people is logistically impossible even if he has a supermajority of congressional support unless he can get a few hundred thousand volunteers to join the Trumpstaffel. He'd have a better shot at bullying the GOP to back him on raising taxes on capital gains than he would of getting his immigration enforcement put in to effect without declaring nationwide martial law.
Because what donald trump lacks is fanatical racist supporters ready to be whipped into a frenzy in the name of nationalistic pride

Watching people 'ironically' support trump here is absolutely fascinating.

A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


Uhhh you guys should probably wait until you read his tax plan before you start cheering it for being economically progressive. I am sure his tax plan will eliminate the carried interest loophole, which allows about 0.01% of rich people (active fund managers) to treat their income as capital gains income instead of normal income. At the same time I am sure his tax plan will lower the top tax rates on all rich people and/or remove some of the top brackets entirely - the new bracket put in place by Obama and the Democrats on income over about $450k/individual, for example, is basically guaranteed to be gone.

All of this will be dressed up in the same "everyone gets a tax cut!" bullshit used by Bush, whereby your average middle class family will save $500/year while every rich rear end in a top hat who doesn't happen to be an active hedge fund manager (aka 99.9% of the rich) will end up saving hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars every year.

Eliminating the carried interest loophole is A Good Thing, but if you think it won't be coupled with tax cuts for the rich that are thousands of times worse you're loving delusional.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Evil Fluffy posted:

Collecting and deporting tens of millions of people is logistically impossible even if he has a supermajority of congressional support unless he can get a few hundred thousand volunteers to join the Trumpstaffel. He'd have a better shot at bullying the GOP to back him on raising taxes on capital gains than he would of getting his immigration enforcement put in to effect without declaring nationwide martial law.
What I'm hearing here is "the Trumpstaffel sold as a national jobs program"

Milk Malk
Sep 17, 2015

"Cognitive dissonance," the goon said, reclining in his armchair and stroking his neckbeard. "Why yes, indeed. Cognitive dissonance, per se."

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888
hitler did it very effectively and look, im not saying he was a great guy or anything, in fact he was terrible, but he was very very effective at deporting certain populations ok, and i think we can learn a few things from him

Milk Malk
Sep 17, 2015

page late but still wanted to get a burn in on that guy bc lmao

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

RBC posted:

hitler did it very effectively and look, im not saying he was a great guy or anything, in fact he was terrible, but he was very very effective at deporting certain populations ok, and i think we can learn a few things from him

Hitler didn't deport people, they were rounded up for execution/enslavement.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

awesmoe posted:

Because what donald trump lacks is fanatical racist supporters ready to be whipped into a frenzy in the name of nationalistic pride

Watching people 'ironically' support trump here is absolutely fascinating.

If you think my post is supporting Trump you're only slightly less insane than people who think he could have any hope of putting his immigration plans in to action.

Nessus posted:

What I'm hearing here is "the Trumpstaffel sold as a national jobs program"

This would unironically happen, unfortunately, and probably get funding that would've gone to PP and other stuff the GOP want killed and could actually accomplish with Trump as president.

Smoothrich
Nov 8, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 2 years!

McDowell posted:

Hitler didn't deport people, they were rounded up for execution/enslavement.

Stalin was the ethnic cleanser by mass deportation and forced resettlement. For the collective good of course.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Smoothrich posted:

Stalin was the ethnic cleanser by mass deportation and forced resettlement. For the collective good of course.

Hot take

linoleum floors
Mar 25, 2012

Please. Let me tell you all about how you're all idiots. I am of superior intellect here. Go suck some dicks. You have all fucking stupid opinions. This is my fucking opinion.

McDowell posted:

Hitler didn't deport people, they were rounded up for execution/enslavement.

But deportation was always the cover story everyone operated under

Chemtrailologist
Jul 8, 2007

McDowell posted:

Hitler didn't deport people, they were rounded up for execution/enslavement.

A number of Jews were deported to Spain.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Smoothrich posted:

Stalin was the ethnic cleanser by mass deportation and forced resettlement. For the collective good of course.
I am glad you were here to stick up for the good name of Adolf Elizabeth.

You were using a thirty million figure before - even assuming this was feasible, that is about ten percent of the population of the United States. Even the more rational figure rooted in the noted pinko liberal rag of "reality and census figures" is eleven or twelve million. That's pretty "mass" and "forced" to me.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Ego-bot posted:

A number of Jews were deported to Spain.

A much larger number were shuffled around within the German holdings before being shot.

I mean, part of why deportation is hard is because you gotta make sure the place you're trying to boot the people will allow people to be booted there.

Smoothrich
Nov 8, 2009
Probation
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Nintendo Kid posted:

A much larger number were shuffled around within the German holdings before being shot.

I mean, part of why deportation is hard is because you gotta make sure the place you're trying to boot the people will allow people to be booted there.

Jews didn't have their own country to go back to though. Most liberals seem to miss those days.

NotJesus
Jan 17, 2007
Trump, a fascist?
Not as fascist as liberals who hate Israel!
:smuggo:

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Smoothrich posted:

Jews didn't have their own country to go back to though. Most liberals seem to miss those days.

With all due respect you appear to be insane and desperately need therapy. Luckily for you the darn liberals of New Jersey fund an excellent mental health assistance system. Contact your county government for further info!

YOU A FUCKING HAT
Jun 7, 1979

I CAN'T BE STOPPED OR REASONED WITH



Nintendo Kid posted:

You don't know poo poo about development in the tri-state area.


Also Xanadu/Dream's completed area is smaller than the King of Prussia mall's current area, and the new expansion currently under construction is gonna exceed Xanadu/Dream's planned 2.8 million square feet of leasable space.

KOP is a good mall. I shop there. :D Stupid name, tho.

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
there are a few people that jump into this thread or the trump thread and claim that there are tons of trump supporters

what they are really saying is that they have poor reading comprehension and it is funny every time

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

AssassinPrincess posted:

KOP is a good mall. I shop there. :D Stupid name, tho.

It's named that because some random inn owner in the colonial era was like "The King of Prussia is a cool guy, imma name my inn the King of Prussia Inn". so that area around the inn became known by the same name, and then they happened to build a mall there.

Smoothrich
Nov 8, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 2 years!
People talking about Trump being a fascist probably actually believe they are more intelligent than people who talk about Obama being a dictator. Same stupid poo poo, but with more pretentious analogies.

"Donald Trump's campaign is exactly the same as #Gamergate! Trump Culture is racist and Gamer Culture is sexist. Here are 10,000 words explaining why you'll never understand because you're a privileged white male. Ron Paul Bernie Sanders 2016"

Vice President Ted Cruz will make sure the Trump administration obeys the Constitution fully anyways.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Nintendo Kid posted:

A much larger number were shuffled around within the German holdings before being shot.

I mean, part of why deportation is hard is because you gotta make sure the place you're trying to boot the people will allow people to be booted there.

Yeah, the Evian Conference made it very clear nobody wanted to take up those refugees. Except the Dominican Republic, for some reason, which was awful nice of them.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

McDowell posted:

Hitler didn't deport people, they were rounded up for execution/enslavement.

The executions ramped up a lot because the whole "throw all the undesirables into Siberia" plan was obviously not going to pan out with them losing the war.

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe

Coatlicue posted:

I assumed it was created by Skellybones, who first posted it in the politoons thread:


And who subsequently made my new avatar for me :3:

I wish I'd made it, I just found it in a thread I've forgotten now and reposted it.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

Smoothrich posted:

People talking about Trump being a fascist probably actually believe they are more intelligent than people who talk about Obama being a dictator. Same stupid poo poo, but with more pretentious analogies.

"Donald Trump's campaign is exactly the same as #Gamergate! Trump Culture is racist and Gamer Culture is sexist. Here are 10,000 words explaining why you'll never understand because you're a privileged white male. Ron Paul Bernie Sanders 2016"

Vice President Ted Cruz will make sure the Trump administration obeys the Constitution fully anyways.

Christ you're annoying. Please get banned again.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
lol Trump on live television saying he will round up all immigrants and deport them, and will use trains.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
Does he realize who he sounds like? I mean are we going to have the GOP unironically nominate Mussolini as their presidential canadite?

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

"I think I'm on more magazine covers than any supermodel"

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Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
He's literally running on a national socialist platform, it's like he copied the NDASP's 1935 statement and pasted it into this speech lmao

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