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whypick1 posted:gently caress you Dallas. You had one job and that was to make sure LA didn't win another loving Supporter's Shield. It's pretty goddamned poetic that all the goals scored by LA were by marquee players. Y'know, the type of players that FC Dallas ownership refuses to pursue. Because moneyball wins championships!!!!!!! This penny pinching bullshit on top of raising the price of everything around FC Dallas next season has really soured me on the entire franchise. EDIT: I mean, I know bitching about it seems kinda childish considering FC Dallas is still firmly in the playoff race, but goddamn. It's really irritating that every offseason comes by and there is a cone of silence around the owners. They don't go looking for talent, they go looking for deals. Shinjobi fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Sep 28, 2015 |
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It's not as if Dallas has a stellar track record with DPs, though. If my previous DPs included Denilson, Andres Escobar (26 appearances, 2 goals), and Eric Hassli (15 appearances, 0 goals), you'd have a hard time convincing me to gamble millions of dollars on a marquee signing. Moneyball still might win a championship. FCD is second in the west, and has already beaten LA once this season. If they meet again in the playoffs, Dallas has every chance of walking away with a victory. There's not much practical difference between winning the Shield and being an eight-seed, and I'm pretty sure more eight-seeds than one-seeds have won the Cup lately anyway. Last night's loss wasn't a strategic error (that is, the overall strategy of marquee signings did not beat the overall strategy of kids). It was a tactical error. Pareja makes a lot of good tactical decisions, but putting a twenty-year-old goalkeeper up against Keane and dos Santos and Gerrard was not a good idea, to put it nicely. Playing Je-Vaughn Watson's shambling corpse at left back was a mistake when the much faster Ryan Hollingshead was on the bench (and you saw Watson get utterly taken to school by Gyasi Zardes on LA's first goal). There were some other issues as well, such as bad defensive positioning and a lot being demanded of Cirigliano in only his second start, but it's not as if this result was a stinging indictment of the entire idea of homegrowing players. It was a bad result against a team that played well. These things happen. If someone like Cristiano Ronaldo becomes available and Dallas doesn't make a move for him, then I'll concede your point, but at present I think it's a bit of an overreach.
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Sep 28, 2015 11:20
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TheNakedJimbo posted:There's not much practical difference between winning the Shield and being an eight-seed, and I'm pretty sure more eight-seeds than one-seeds have won the Cup lately anyway. Wrong. Never mind that there's no such thing as the eight-seed. Winning the Shield means CCL qualification, and that comes with a ton of money to deepen your squad. A low-budget team needs the Shield or the USOC to compete.
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Sep 28, 2015 13:18
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get rich or die tryin
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Sep 28, 2015 13:34
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Your Boy Fancy posted:Wrong. Even the high budget teams can use the extra money to buy players, which is why LA has 4 DPs, and Seattle has 5.
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Sep 28, 2015 14:50
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TheNakedJimbo posted:It's not as if Dallas has a stellar track record with DPs, though. If my previous DPs included Denilson, Andres Escobar (26 appearances, 2 goals), and Eric Hassli (15 appearances, 0 goals), you'd have a hard time convincing me to gamble millions of dollars on a marquee signing. I think my opinion has been painted by FCD sharing the same area with teams like the Cowboys and the Mavericks, where owners don't sweat spending money if they're confident they'll see a return. Between that and interviews with the owner I've come to really get the sense that this guy (who also owns the Kansas City Chiefs) either doesn't really care about the quality of the team or thinks he's a hell of a lot smarter than he is. Honestly I think this has been in the back of my mind for a while now, last night just seemed the time for me to vent a bit. For what it's worth I hope I'm wrong, but I've seen little to persuade me otherwise.
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Sep 28, 2015 22:46
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Shinjobi posted:I think my opinion has been painted by FCD sharing the same area with teams like the Cowboys and the Mavericks, where owners don't sweat spending money if they're confident they'll see a return. Yeah, if your standards of reasonable investment are colored by Jerry Jones and Mark Cuban, everyone is gonna look like a cheap bastard.
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Sep 28, 2015 23:57
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Shinjobi posted:I think my opinion has been painted by FCD sharing the same area with teams like the Cowboys and the Mavericks, where owners don't sweat spending money if they're confident they'll see a return. Between that and interviews with the owner I've come to really get the sense that this guy (who also owns the Kansas City Chiefs) either doesn't really care about the quality of the team or thinks he's a hell of a lot smarter than he is. That's a fair point, although it's also worth considering FCD have been to more championship games since 1996 than the Cowboys have. Jones is a pretty good example of what we're talking about because he's made a lot of what you might call marquee signings, and it's really hard to point to a single one who has been as good as advertised.
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Sep 29, 2015 00:36
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I hear you, I do. But it feels like FCD just spins its wheels in the mud all season sometimes, but maybe I'm just not noticing the signs of progress. It's certainly possible for me.
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Sep 29, 2015 07:53
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Dallas is three points off first with two games in hand. The amount of complaining going on is unbelievable. The ticket price thing is definitely an issue but the team isn't. The bottom 12 teams in regards to spending range from 4~5.5 million, FCD isn't miles away from anyone when it comes to spending. We would all like 22 million to blow on mediocrity like TFC but it isn't the norm for now.
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Sep 29, 2015 16:06
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gently caress this team
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Oct 3, 2015 00:24
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DC is insanely gay. I LOVE MY BAD GAY TEAM
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Oct 3, 2015 00:28
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Surprised Pirlo didn't shatter like an empty bottle of Merlot when Kitchen hit him with that challenge.
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Oct 3, 2015 00:45
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Watching Lampard do good things makes me 
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Oct 3, 2015 00:53
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Seltzer posted:Dallas is three points off first with two games in hand. The amount of complaining going on is unbelievable. The ticket price thing is definitely an issue but the team isn't. The bottom 12 teams in regards to spending range from 4~5.5 million, FCD isn't miles away from anyone when it comes to spending. We would all like 22 million to blow on mediocrity like TFC but it isn't the norm for now. Lol at being jealous of Toronto FC. Just lol
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Oct 3, 2015 01:08
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Lol at being jealous of Toronto FC. I a Red Bulls fan am not jealous of the team Toronto FC in any capacity but I would like an extra 16 million to blow.
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Oct 3, 2015 01:16
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"...the Cah-sta Rican" Goddammit illegal stream, why do you have to have SAP on?
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Oct 3, 2015 01:43
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Blind squirrels, nuts, something something DC UNITED PLAYOFFS MATE 
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Oct 3, 2015 01:55
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That was inevitable.
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Oct 3, 2015 01:55
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NYCFC is so dire
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Oct 3, 2015 02:03
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You can't buy this league. We own this league.
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Oct 3, 2015 03:05
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Oh yeah, it's October now, ain't it? http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3744903
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