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suuma posted:I've decided to play this again after a year and a half off, and all of my friends are playing on Excalibur. I seem to remember having to log on at like 4am to get a character made there; is this still the case? Patch lull has hit hard, it is not difficult to get a character created on Excalibur at the moment.
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Starting the Dragoon storyline after finishing Heavensward is kinda odd. EDIT: Yeah, but she doesn't turn into a dragon 
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Sep 28, 2015 22:01
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Drizvolta posted:Starting the Dragoon storyline after finishing Heavensward is kinda odd. Not as odd as the culinarian storyline after patch 2.55!
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Sep 28, 2015 22:04
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Patch lull has hit hard, it is not difficult to get a character created on Excalibur at the moment. Okay.. cool. I'll just try at like 8 in the morning instead of 3-4 like they were suggesting. Thanks.
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Sep 28, 2015 22:07
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hobbesmaster posted:Not as odd as the culinarian storyline after patch 2.55! Nah, it makes sense. They woke her up for the tasting, or "weekend at bernie's"'d it I started playing in 2.2 and avoided relics. I can't decide whether I want to embrace a new autist grind or not.
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Sep 28, 2015 22:22
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megalodong posted:Speaking as someone who's highest job is 22, what could they have done better to stop people running out of things? Is it just a flatout lack of stuff to do, or is the gear curve messed up so yo udon't need to do anything but the highest dungeon or whatever? There's tons of poo poo to do but they hosed up the incentives on a lot of it. Hardcore raiding is basically too hard is what I have routinely been hearing from people who had no issues clearing any of bahamut's coil before echo was introduced. A3S is wrecking statics left and right. Casual raiding is either a tedious weekly grind (Alexander normal, usually have to run each floor multiple times a week to get your loot) or rendered completely pointless by ESO(teric) gear like the 2 current primals which only drop irrelevant weapons. Crafting is all hosed up for most people. Red scrip gear is undermined both by being worse than the crafted sets and also being wholly unnecessary to HQ current endgame materials so people don't bother unless they are like me; someone only in it for looking cool so I'm too busy blowing my red scrip on gatherer gear instead of mats. Gatherer red scrip is fine but it's tiresome at best and is definitely not something that would ever keep anyone playing I imagine. It is pretty miserable if you are burning it trying to get crafter set materials though. Only 2 experts so people got bored of them quickly. Frontlines seem fine though. I guess? I just started doing them a week ago since I was so god drat tired of experts. I have been having fun even though I am completely terrible. I think all of this combined with the longest patch cycle so far in game has just led to a lot of existential angst.
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Sep 28, 2015 22:45
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I did my Ragnarok entirely in 2.5, so I'm looking forward to actually being up to date on it.megalodong posted:Speaking as someone who's highest job is 22, what could they have done better to stop people running out of things? Is it just a flatout lack of stuff to do, or is the gear curve messed up so yo udon't need to do anything but the highest dungeon or whatever? There's plenty of stuff to do, it's just that the people who are complaining have already done it.
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Sep 28, 2015 22:46
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hobbesmaster posted:Not as odd as the culinarian storyline after patch 2.55! While there's nothing as weird as meeting mopey Garrosh in the Outlands, I've run into a few oddities. The most  is doing ShivaEx post-3.0 and Urianger wondering if it was possible to get Iceheart over to our side.
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Sep 28, 2015 22:59
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I do feel like I'm hitting the lull a bit, too. I'm about to have a DPS at level 60 real soon alongside my healer and tank, so I'll have a trifecta of classes to run whatever content I feel like. I don't have enough money for crafting to get all classes to 60 unless I want to put a huge amount of time to it for little payoff. I'm not part of a static, so I can't really do savage content. I don't mind running the roulettes every day to get my esos (though I have no idea what to spend my esos on, I'll probably just save up for a 2nd weapon). Basically I've found triple triad as my new thing for now. It'll probably be chocobo racing after this. Grinding for a relic weapon will be nice. Especially since that usually can be done with groups. I think the big issue is a lot of the stuff prior to 3.0 was made obsolete with Heavensward. Sure, you can run some of that stuff, but 1) the gear you get won't be very good relative to 3.0 gear, and 2) no one else is really running it. I'd love to pony farm more, but ponies can't fly
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Sep 28, 2015 23:06
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I cap esoterics and log in to progress in an unfun encounter. Kill me.
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Sep 28, 2015 23:18
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Fister Roboto posted:There's plenty of stuff to do, it's just that the people who are complaining have already done it. Yeah I think this is the main thing. There's another full month until the next patch due to Heavensward itself being so big. As somebody who only got to endgame two weeks ago I'm fine. I have two classes at 60 so running Alexander and getting Esoterics will be enough for a long while. Plus I want to try leveling Crafting and Gathering.
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Sep 28, 2015 23:19
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seiferguy posted:I think the big issue is a lot of the stuff prior to 3.0 was made obsolete with Heavensward. Sure, you can run some of that stuff, but 1) the gear you get won't be very good relative to 3.0 gear, and 2) no one else is really running it. I'd love to pony farm more, but ponies can't fly Same but with farming random gear from old content seems like it's almost impossible to drum up any sort of interest for it
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Sep 28, 2015 23:21
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This is the same exact content lull we had in 2.0, it's just now people expect the game to have the same amount of content from a year and a half of patches included in their expansion
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Sep 28, 2015 23:29
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Same. This game isn't fun and had an uncannily similar metamorphosis - developers, concerned that people aren't clearing any more. I don't remember the players having fun in this MMO. This issue was always hanging overhead. This isn't fun anymore. Basically, if you "oh, yeah, I just too busy blowing my red scrip on gatherer gear coming out of their goddamned fast they were coming up on vanilla WoW slipped up for looking cool but it's tiresome at least in week one. I could experience everything the raid environments to an unpleasant truth: to want, motivates efforts to gain. To have, inspires no compelling for little payoff. I'm too hard and also being a hiatus right now, but it's because the player base hasn't scaled the surface. There's another full month until the disagreement. Why is the game so bad. Hardcore raiding community.
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Sep 28, 2015 23:33
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I'd actually prefer it if they went back and just cranked up a lot of the older stuff to level 60 and gave it appropriate ilvl locks. Certain fights like Ramuh Ex and a lot of the older Coil stuff are a lot of fun to do, but they have extremely marginal rewards nowadays for most folks. Do something ala the old weekly Primal quest along with the level 60 boost and you've got a wide variety of stuff that people are now both willing and able to do. It just seems silly to me to leave what are otherwise perfectly good fights by the wayside, especially since (I'm betting, anyways) a good portion of the userbase hasn't burned themselves out on certain older fights. I know a friend of mine did Leviathan Ex a whole bunch back in the day, but I've completed it twice, and I'd be fine with doing it again.
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Sep 28, 2015 23:34
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Doublestep posted:This is the same exact content lull we had in 2.0, it's just now people expect the game to have the same amount of content from a year and a half of patches included in their expansion The big difference is they purposely hard obsoleted all of their good content. There's nothing from ARR that's even useful to a level 60 character in any way, and HLDR doesn't even give exp toward levelling characters. Once you're 60, you just don't want to touch the majority of the game's content because it doesn't help with currencies, EXP, or cosmetic rewards in any way. e: also give me Prime level 50 primals and savage old 4-mans. Just rescaled old content with some neat poo poo attached.
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Sep 28, 2015 23:35
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ntan1 posted:Same. This game isn't fun and had an uncannily similar metamorphosis - developers, concerned that people aren't clearing any more. I don't remember the players having fun in this MMO. This issue was always hanging overhead. Was this generated by a markov chain of the official forums
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Sep 28, 2015 23:35
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They should add cosmetic rewards and/or achievements for completing 2.0 stuff with minimum ilevel sync.
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Sep 28, 2015 23:37
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Ultima at ilvl 50 is still fun.
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cheetah7071 posted:Was this generated by a markov chain of the official forums I would pay money for a general discussion bot
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Sep 28, 2015 23:39
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Niton posted:The big difference is they purposely hard obsoleted all of their good content. There's nothing from ARR that's even useful to a level 60 character in any way, and HLDR doesn't even give exp toward levelling characters. Once you're 60, you just don't want to touch the majority of the game's content because it doesn't help with currencies, EXP, or cosmetic rewards in any way. Is this your first mmo
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cheetah7071 posted:Was this generated by a markov chain of the official forums They did a terrible job of removing the problem of raiders. buy an iphone. THIS WORLD IS A FANTASY AND YOU'RE FAILING.
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Niton posted:e: also give me Prime level 50 primals and savage old 4-mans. Just rescaled old content with some neat poo poo attached. you have to wait until the 5th expansion pack once the nostalgia has set in properly and they've run out of ideas
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Sep 28, 2015 23:41
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Everyone wants a patch cycle completely unique to their individual playstyle. Last time I checked people are still logging into the game to do stuff so please forgive the dev team for not releasing new content the exact moment you got bored of the current content.
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Sep 28, 2015 23:45
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If I bought a new iPhone and will be backing up my existing iPhone and restoring the new one with my back up, do I have to jump through shenanigans with the Software Token or will everything be good to go?
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Sep 28, 2015 23:50
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You probably will, so make sure you have the emergency remove code handy just in caseDoublestep posted:Is this your first mmo Maybe FFXI was his first MMO where a single pair of pants could last you for 40+ levels or something dumb like that Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Sep 28, 2015 |
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Sep 28, 2015 23:53
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doubling it up
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Sep 28, 2015 23:56
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Doublestep posted:Is this your first mmo Well I mean, there are a couple obvious things they goofed up that seem like no brainers to me. HLDR should have given experience from day one. Even assuming they didn't want people to feel compelled to run old content at release (a sentiment I really appreciated honestly), that should have been patched in around the same time as Eso gear and not stalled until 3.1 . It also seems silly to me that there isn't an unsync'd roulette.
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Sep 28, 2015 23:56
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Sep 28, 2015 23:58
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My biggest problem with the current content is the massive gap between bashing my head against savage and anything else, there's no mid tier "Fun and kinda useful, maybe slightly less facerolley" stuff I can do with my static to let off steam
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Sep 29, 2015 00:02
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Doublestep posted:Hldr does give exp though My big hope is that they even out the awesomeness of EXDR a bit. The music in Fractal keeps me going but the 50% chance to get Neverreap keeps me from doing my EXDR daily.
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Klungar posted:If I bought a new iPhone and will be backing up my existing iPhone and restoring the new one with my back up, do I have to jump through shenanigans with the Software Token or will everything be good to go? Not providing support for this! I see no advantage to a somehow inferior/superior/superior/superior phone. I've upgraded to wipe my requests don't fancy right now. Someone explain this poo poo to my phone? Thank you for the 3 month hold.
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I know the mobs don't but yelling that the roulette itself doesn't when it's a pretty decent source of exp as is is pretty misleading
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Sep 29, 2015 00:11
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I'd totally resub and do 24-mans if the queue for them wasn't awful. yoshi-p plz add raid roulette to get people to do them again and I'll heal another 50 LotAs trying to even see the Royal Gloves drop e: adding exp to all lv50 content before any roulette bonus might be neat too
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Sep 29, 2015 00:15
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I'd actually prefer it if the userbase quits. Last time I checked people are still logging all the day, but I've completed all of the game. People feel compelled to run old content, but they didn't want to touch the majority of the old weekly Primals and savage and you get bored of the old 4-mans. Just rescale and run old content. There's content the devs just cranked up a lot. Everyone wants a patch cycle all of the time. Do something and a lot of their good content will come.
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A raid and EX Primal roulette would be great. Also let Coil tie in some way to the new Relic.
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ntan1 posted:Same. This game isn't fun and had an uncannily similar metamorphosis - developers, concerned that people aren't clearing any more. I don't remember the players having fun in this MMO. This issue was always hanging overhead. This, I claim, is ideology.
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Dr Pepper posted:A raid and EX Primal roulette would be great. This would be the greatest clusterfuck. Pubbies abandon Steps as it is now, I don't think a single pug would survive even rolling Titan EX in a roulette. do it yoshi-p
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Doublestep posted:Is this your first mmo Not at all. The thing that strikes me as particularly nuts about the way Heavensward did things is the sheer number of new "progression" gear sets brought in in 3.0. Going from what you need to access Singularity Reactor, we have: Level 58 quest whites Valerian Law ( +Bismarck Weapon  )Centurio Prototype Gordian +Ravana Weapon Antiquated Relic Relic/Gordian That's e: Bismarck really isn't its own gear tier. Bismarck is just a gigantic question mark. Doublestep posted:I know the mobs don't but yelling that the roulette itself doesn't when it's a pretty decent source of exp as is is pretty misleading I worded it shittily, but it's a problem that they recognized before 3.05 even launched. Despite that, they chose not to do anything about it until 3.1. The 50-53 stretch is so lovely that it makes me not want to touch any of the classes I have left there. Niton fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Sep 29, 2015 |
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Niton posted:Bismarck really isn't its own gear tier. Bismarck is just a gigantic question mark. It's hard to understate just how baffling it is that the reward for what should be part of the game's harder content - without delving into whether Bisex still qualifies as 'hard' - is somehow lower in quality than upgraded Law.
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