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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

I Am Not Spor posted:

The XL1 doesn't count? And the Jetta gets better mpg than any of the tdi's. Probably drives like poo poo, but still.

.....but the Jettas do come as TDIs. And they get about the same milage as the TSI, if not slightly better Highway milage.

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KilroyWasHere
Oct 22, 2005
VW put up their own website about the whole thing, http://vwdieselinfo.com/. So far all it has is apologies and FAQs with non-answers.

VW posted:

I want to turn in my vehicle – can I and how?
We are cooperating closely with the regulatory authorities to develop a remedy as quickly as possible. We ask for your patience as we work to get this done right.

I Am Not Spor
Dec 13, 2006
all the better to glomp you with
^Don't they have until early October to figure this out?^

CommieGIR posted:

.....but the Jettas do come as TDIs. And they get about the same milage as the TSI, if not slightly better Highway milage.

Jetta hybrid. 48 highway 42 city. I can't even get 42 highway in my tdi, but I drive 75 on my way home, and there's no way in hell I'm going to get 42 city.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

I Am Not Spor posted:

Jetta hybrid. 48 highway 42 city. I can't even get 42 highway in my tdi, but I drive 75 on my way home, and there's no way in hell I'm going to get 42 city.

I regularly get 45 city in Atlanta traffic :shrug:

Lord of Garbagemen
Jan 28, 2014

Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!

I Am Not Spor posted:

^Don't they have until early October to figure this out?^


Jetta hybrid. 48 highway 42 city. I can't even get 42 highway in my tdi, but I drive 75 on my way home, and there's no way in hell I'm going to get 42 city.

that seems crazy low, i get 45 mpg mixed and 50+ highway.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

CommieGIR posted:

I regularly get 45 city in Atlanta traffic :shrug:

This would be relevant if we were talking about your era of vw tdi.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

BraveUlysses posted:

This would be relevant if we were talking about your era of vw tdi.

My father's 2010 TDI 6 speed get 47 :colbert:

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

CommieGIR posted:

My father's 2010 TDI 6 speed get 47 :colbert:

At the cost of higher fuel price and polluting like a big rig. :toot:

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

meatpimp posted:

At the cost of higher fuel price and polluting like a big rig. :toot:

:argh: drat you Meatpimp for dragging me back to reality!

I wonder where the FrankenTDI falls emissions wise...

I Am Not Spor
Dec 13, 2006
all the better to glomp you with

Lord of Garbagemen posted:

that seems crazy low, i get 45 mpg mixed and 50+ highway.

45 minute commute, half of it is below 10mph, so I'm chugging along in 1st gear. And on the way home, when I'm not stuck in traffic, I'm blasting along at 75 getting ~37mpg.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

I Am Not Spor posted:

45 minute commute, half of it is below 10mph, so I'm chugging along in 1st gear. And on the way home, when I'm not stuck in traffic, I'm blasting along at 75 getting ~37mpg.

Something is wrong. That's high consumption.

Wait, do you have the Auto?

I Am Not Spor
Dec 13, 2006
all the better to glomp you with

CommieGIR posted:

Something is wrong. That's high consumption.

Wait, do you have the Auto?

6 speed, but I have hills?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

I Am Not Spor posted:

6 speed, but I have hills?

Oh, that might do it...

Looks like Bosch covered their rear end at least, saying they had warned VW about the software when it was provided to them.

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Sep 28, 2015

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

CommieGIR posted:

Oh, that might do it...

Looks like Bosch covered their rear end at least, saying they had warned VW about the software when it was provided to them.

I just read that part in an article too. Reading about all this and how it's starting to get real dang hit in Europe about it, goddamn. It really feels like VW as we know it is going to die. Even if that isn't actually true it certainly doesn't do anything to instill me with confidence.

I Am Not Spor
Dec 13, 2006
all the better to glomp you with
http://europe.autonews.com/article/20150927/ANE/150929837/bosch-warned-vw-about-illegal-software-use-in-diesel-cars-report-says

Are you kidding? posted:

Bernhard and Krebs argued that the only way to make the engine meet U.S. emission standards was to employ in the engine system an AdBlue urea solution used on larger diesel models such as the Passat and Touareg, according to the report.

This would have added a cost of 300 euros per vehicle -- a sum that VW finance officials said was too much at a time when a companywide cost-cutting exercise was underway.

300 euro!

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

300 Euros! Those darn bean counters!

KakerMix posted:

I just read that part in an article too. Reading about all this and how it's starting to get real dang hit in Europe about it, goddamn. It really feels like VW as we know it is going to die. Even if that isn't actually true it certainly doesn't do anything to instill me with confidence.

Yeah, I'm pretty worried about whats going to happen to them as well...

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Sep 28, 2015

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

This is going to be the most expensive 300 euro savings ever.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
Penny wise pound foolish accountants :downs:

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
money may rule the world, but you shouldn't let accountants have their way

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


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go3 posted:

money may rule the world, but you shouldn't let accountants have their way

Bu...bu...but our bottom line!

I Am Not Spor
Dec 13, 2006
all the better to glomp you with

StandardVC10 posted:

This is going to be the most expensive 300 euro savings ever.

Give all 11 million of us 300 euros and boom bang done.

Lawyered.

Git Mah Belt Son
Apr 26, 2003

Happy Happy Gators

go3 posted:

money may rule the world, but you shouldn't let accountants have their way

As someone working in corporate america finance, trust me when I say the accountants and finance are who really run and make decisions in any large business. It makes absolutely no sense but I have seen it countless times with the decisions they make. It's never their fault when it blows up though. See, they made the right choices - it was someone else somewhere in the structure that didn't come through. How dare you question their genius?

Git Mah Belt Son fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Sep 29, 2015

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
Portland has to do something to address this!

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
On one hand yeah but on the other hand gently caress Portland.

Build a wall around it, ship all the TDIs to it.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
A fate worse then death. Your TDI is 'cute'.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

blugu64 posted:

A fate worse then death. Your TDI is 'cute'.

Eh, I can see someone saying that about the Beetle. The Golf, on the other hand - I drive that so I look like an Ingolstadt taxi driver, dammit!

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

blugu64 posted:

A fate worse then death. Your TDI is 'cute'.

I'm trying to figure out how he is being sympathetic.

"You are driving a Nazi car. A lyning Nazi car"

Dudeabides
Jul 26, 2009

"You better not buy me that goddamn tourist av"

CommieGIR posted:

I'm trying to figure out how he is being sympathetic.

"You are driving a Nazi car. A lyning Nazi car"

As we all know, the real reason the Third Reich flourished was because of electric and hybrid vehicles. That's why it's taken 70 years for them to be back in the market.

This was probably planted by the owner of a Smart Car dealership.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Dudeabides posted:

As we all know, the real reason the Third Reich flourished was because of electric and hybrid vehicles. That's why it's taken 70 years for them to be back in the market.

:airquote: Hybrid :airquote:

I Am Not Spor
Dec 13, 2006
all the better to glomp you with

That's my IRL tdi. That's why my mpg is so bad.


I'm waiting for my car, and the other million tdi's on my street, to get peppered with flyers telling us how we're horrible people with horrible morals and should die.

I Am Not Spor fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Sep 29, 2015

obi_ant
Apr 8, 2005

CommieGIR posted:

Portland has to do something to address this!



Ugh. I guess all those San Franciscians who couldn't afford rent moved up to Portland. I don't even own one of the affected cars but come on.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

CommieGIR posted:

Portland has to do something to address this!



Oh man I can already feel the soft leather seats of my future bargain basement TDI hatchback.

Wipfmetz
Oct 12, 2007

Sitzen ein oder mehrere Wipfe in einer Lore, so kann man sie ueber den Rand der Lore hinausschauen sehen.

CommieGIR posted:

Portland has to do something to address this!



So first they advertise _gas_ over diesel and then they pull the nazi card?

alternate.eago
Jul 19, 2006
Insert randomness here.

8ender posted:

Oh man I can already feel the soft leather seats of my future bargain basement TDI hatchback.

Not real leather though, at least not in mine. I would rather they buy it back from me than put the goat piss injection system on it. I really don't want the ad blue system on my car, it's another chemical to buy, and another system that will probably fail down the road.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

alternate.eago posted:

Not real leather though, at least not in mine. I would rather they buy it back from me than put the goat piss injection system on it. I really don't want the ad blue system on my car, it's another chemical to buy, and another system that will probably fail down the road.

At this point, its looking like its going to be a voluntary recall unless your local government requires you to do so to re-register or pass emissions.

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe

8ender posted:

Oh man I can already feel the soft leather seats of my future bargain basement TDI hatchback.

Sorry to disappoint, but the TDI only has Leatherette* and that's only on the wagen. The Golf has cloth :) For real leather you gotta buy the R.

355 miles out of 12.9 gallons last fill up. Not bad for AWD and 300 hp.

Oh right something else odd I noticed the other day. In CO apparently a brand new gas car gets a 7 year emissions exemption, but my 4 year old TDI was supposed to have to do emissions this year.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM
I want so badly for that person to be a BMW driver who knows nothing about car company history.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

AlternateAccount posted:

I want so badly for that person to be a BMW driver who knows nothing about car company history.

Driving a Smart Car would be just as bad.

But, obviously, they probably bike everywhere. Its Portland.

E: A summary as to why I can't have nice things:

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Sep 29, 2015

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

CommieGIR posted:

Driving a Smart Car would be just as bad.

But, obviously, they probably bike everywhere. Its Portland.
Maybe this person will wind up in the hospital cuz they got hit by a bike! Ooo, and maybe it's a German bike!

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veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe

scuz posted:

Maybe this person will wind up in the hospital cuz they got hit by a bike! Ooo, and maybe it's a German bike!

German bikes have gears, guarantee he only rides a fixie.

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