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Kaboobi posted:Keith Urban also used to be a hell of a guitarist and then he stopped all the drugs and learned he could make a shitton of money in slow pop country Maybe he's going to use that money to buy a shitload of drugs and be a guitar virtuoso again, thus completing the cycle.
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whypick1 posted:Maybe he's going to use that money to buy a shitload of drugs and be a guitar virtuoso again, thus completing the cycle. Ah, the Keith Richards stratagem.
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TrojanNemo posted:Awesome. Thanks for what I hope is coming next... I mean, I figured the post was already long enough as is and figured simply posting the most notably challenging ones and linking the video for the rest of the setlist was a decent compromise as opposed meticulously chronicling the tiers of every song in a 65 song setlist and cluttering up the page, but you know. I'm sorry you have to sit through 2 minutes of video? 
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Sep 29, 2015 03:31
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It's going to take me a whole lot longer than the 2 minutes of video, but glad to know it's there. I may not need to bother people to do something for me now. But it needs to be said that it's not all about what song is hardest. Different players have different abilities and people like me need to know them all for reasons.
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Sep 29, 2015 03:35
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...so why is it showing which songs have freestyle solos and/or freestyle vocals on the Quickplay menu next to the big 4? Isn't any song with guitar solo markers going to allow for the freestyle stuff, and why would any song with vocals not have freestyle in it? There's just so much poo poo going on and design choices I don't understand. Wonder what it'll look like populated with a big library. Kinda wish someone would show off the detail poo poo like library sorting or character creation, we kinda know what playing a song is like.
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Sep 29, 2015 04:03
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Library sorting: um, hopefully the December 8th patch adds some actual way to sort things because ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Freestyle solos: looks like this will be on a per-song basis? I'm guessing songs will have to have like, the key of the solo and stuff manually programmed in, which likely isn't included with the base song Vocal freestyles: I think the key is already baked into the track by default so I dunno wtf
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Sep 29, 2015 04:10
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Are they shipping more than just preorders like normal games or should I go ahead and preorder to make sure I can actually get it on release?
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Sep 29, 2015 04:21
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Kaboobi posted:Library sorting: um, hopefully the December 8th patch adds some actual way to sort things because ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Look there's a search box where you can type in song names with your guitar isn't that good enough please stop asking questions
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Sep 29, 2015 04:24
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Naming poo poo with the guitar is why I just run with whatever band name the game gives me.
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Sep 29, 2015 04:26
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Bam. Between my manual collection of metadata and then adjustments made from watching the video, I think I got all the metadata for the on-disc songs. http://www.keepitfishy.com/rb4/rb4_setlist.pdf
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Sep 29, 2015 05:58
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Would not have expected Birth In Reverse to have devil-tier drums, but I guess I can see it in my head and yeah that's probably right
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Sep 29, 2015 06:20
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abraham linksys posted:Would not have expected Birth In Reverse to have devil-tier drums, but I guess I can see it in my head and yeah that's probably right I would probably have rather had Prince Johnny or Digital Witness from that record, but I'll get on board with any St. Vincent they can get.
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Sep 29, 2015 06:51
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TrojanNemo posted:Bam. Between my manual collection of metadata and then adjustments made from watching the video, I think I got all the metadata for the on-disc songs. Haha, both U2 songs are (near) bottom-tier difficulty on all instruments. 
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Sep 29, 2015 07:45
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elf help book posted:Look there's a search box where you can type in song names with your guitar isn't that good enough please stop asking questions Seems like a good use for Smart Glass or whatever it's called.
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Sep 29, 2015 07:54
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Merijn posted:Haha, both U2 songs are (near) bottom-tier difficulty on all instruments. The former bassist in my band (and the person who I generally play Rock Band with the most) generally said that she aimed for Adam Clayton-level competence.
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Kaboobi posted:Freestyle solos: looks like this will be on a per-song basis? I'm guessing songs will have to have like, the key of the solo and stuff manually programmed in, which likely isn't included with the base song Markups for guitar solos/vocal freestyle need a lot more than just the key of the song. There's a whole lot of different chord progressions that can happen within a single key - all of this has been added by a group of ridiculously talented individuals. Sometimes I even understand the words they say. It's a ton of work. Those are then used for both guitar solos and vocal freestyle.
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Sep 29, 2015 10:45
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Hmmmm. U2, huh. I guess at some point I'll be getting this game. And by extension, possibly an XBone.
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Sep 29, 2015 10:49
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I'm guessing songs with freestyle support will be the 120 or so shown off in the demos
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Sep 29, 2015 13:41
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Anything in the back catalog with a guitar solo has freestyle support.
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Sep 29, 2015 14:13
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Alakaiser posted:Anything in the back catalog with a guitar solo has freestyle support. Wide support for vocals too?
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Sep 29, 2015 14:23
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Alakaiser posted:Anything in the back catalog with a guitar solo has freestyle support. So is the indicator more meant to be "this song has a solo at all"? Still doesn't explain the vocal one.
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Sep 29, 2015 14:33
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Alakaiser posted:Anything in the back catalog with a guitar solo has freestyle support. Wow, that's impressive
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Sep 29, 2015 15:09
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The T posted:So is the indicator more meant to be "this song has a solo at all"? Sounds like they added data about the key and chords to as many back catalog songs as had guitar solos, which in turn is the subset of songs where that same data lets it calculate what pitches would be OK for freestyle vocals. The two sets are probaby equal, outside of freestyle vocals for all the songs in 4 and probably going forward. Maybe.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:37
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I'll check it out once I receive my kit and DLC goes up in the store, supposedly Friday or Saturday
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Gaspar Lewis posted:Sounds like they added data about the key and chords to as many back catalog songs as had guitar solos, which in turn is the subset of songs where that same data lets it calculate what pitches would be OK for freestyle vocals. The two sets are probaby equal, outside of freestyle vocals for all the songs in 4 and probably going forward. Yeah pretty much that. I believe the idea between denoting freestyle vocals vs freestyle guitar on the song library is that with RB4 disc + future DLC, everything will be marked up, regardless of whether or not it has a solo. So, outside of endless solo mode, there might not be freestyle guitar in a song but it will have freestyle vocals. Kaboobi posted:Wow, that's impressive Yeah the team who did all of that is completely ridiculous. There is just an absurd level of talent there.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:56
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Harmonix will be streaming RB4 in 20 minutes here: http://twitch.tv/harmonixmusic
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Crawling the @RockBand replies feed, a few (very) small nuggets: - "The RB1 export offer has expired. If you haven't exported yet, it is unavailable." <- suggests RB1 WILL be available (at launch?) to those of us that did export it - Q: "If I have, for example, "LEGO Rock Band Export Pack" listed in my Xbox download history, will I be able to dl that to Xbox One?" A: "f you paid for the export and downloaded the songs, yes. If you just put in the code and downloaded the key, you might not." <- LEGO too? - "Good news! We're already investigating RB3 export." - "The cymbal pack will be available separately shortly after launch." - "All the [preorder] bonus songs will be available as DLC." <- ideally including the Harmonix-band RBN ones? The stream is showing off harmony vocals on legacy DLC! I may or may not have more things to say on that when it's formally announced by HMX! LOL, from the stream: "That's for you, Kaboobi, get off my back."
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Sep 29, 2015 20:00
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pksage posted:The stream is showing off harmony vocals on legacy DLC! I may or may not have more things to say on that when it's formally announced by HMX! Pope announced the Legacy Harmony Project involvement earlier in the stream.
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Sep 29, 2015 20:05
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No batch downloads for legacy DLC. Enjoy downloading all your songs one by one.
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for as much poo poo as we give GH Live, the whole streaming service is a brilliant way to get around the limitations of console DLC systems. I'm kind of shocked Harmonix couldn't work something out with Sony or Microsoft, considering how much more advanced PSN and XBL are now. I mean, there are MMOs on PS4 that include their own launcher and serve patches themselves, without going through PSN. Harmonix should have been able to build a better system for managing DLC 
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I'm guessing said MMOs had a slightly bigger budget than HMX did for RB4 though.
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oh, no doubt. I'm aware of Harmonix's rough financial situation, but I don't think that should excuse what looks to be a subpar product. I've been trying to stay optimistic, but at this point I'm thinking of skipping RB4 and hoping that Amplitude ends up good, or at least comes out at some point
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All GHTV songs. on a channel or freemium token played or bought with real money, are also online-only. So there's that.
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If you want to take a break from RB4 news, pksage interviewed us last week and he just posted comments from some of C3's authors: https://customscreatorscollective.wordpress.com/2015/09/29/the-end-of-days-parting-words-from-our-authors/
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farottone posted:If you want to take a break from RB4 news, pksage interviewed us last week and he just posted comments from some of C3's authors: I think I'm leaking? I'm not sure what's going on. Water.. From my eyes? https://youtu.be/CZd0GJYKwzY
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Man, legacy DLC harmonies are so huge for me. Can't wait!
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Gaspar Lewis posted:All GHTV songs. on a channel or freemium token played or bought with real money, are also online-only. I think I'd actually prefer that, but I'm coming from a privileged position of uncapped internet that's fast enough to stream. Gimmie a $20/mo Rock Band Pass that gives me most of the DLC as a stream, Harmonix 
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abraham linksys posted:I think I'd actually prefer that, but I'm coming from a privileged position of uncapped internet that's fast enough to stream. Gimmie a $20/mo Rock Band Pass that gives me most of the DLC as a stream, Harmonix It also doesn't use stems, is guitar and (maybe vocals?) only, and when the servers go down you can't play it anymore.
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Kaboobi posted:It also doesn't use stems, is guitar and (maybe vocals?) only, and when the servers go down you can't play it anymore. Yeesh, I didn't know it was stemless, nevermind. Explains how they're able to stream it if it's just a single audio track.
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