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Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Raskolnikov38 posted:

what apocalypse is going to be survivable with two feet of dirt and some sheet metal over your head

First his roof has to survive two feet of dirt. . . which is questionable.

Also I did not see any drainage channels, pipes, hoses, or drains, so unless he's going to install a sump pump that pumps all that English rain up, and away from his bunker, he's going to find that it is going to float up through that measly 2 feet of dirt like an empty septic tank. Also straight up sheet metal is going to rust pretty fast in the ground, and at no point did I see any sort of coating or sealing compound applied to the bottom plate, so it's too late for that. Even cement blocks usually either get a waterproof adhesive membrane or tar applied to the outside to prevent moister from coming through and to prevent block degradation. Then again, I'm pretty sure she doesn't care if it lasts 5 years or 50 years, as it's being paid for by someone else.

Another issue is going to be the side pressure from the cement they are talking about pouring. Unless they're only pouring a few inches a day, there will be tremendous forces pushing on on those laughably flimsy walls, and if they try and go for a 1-4 pour job, they will watch all the walls collapse and the roof rupture like a pop can being squeezed in a vice. If they do manage to pour the walls and they don't cave in, the roof is going to be another interesting mess. The weight of a single concrete pour is not going to happen the way it is supported now. Multiple pours are not going to give the strength that they will need to keep the roof from caving in, so I figure they are either going to add another layer of support to the roof, do an arch with bricks/concrete slabs, or more likely dump the dirt back on top and watch the roof go from concave to convex.

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Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



jfc it's Colin Furze, he's not literally planning to outlast a nuclear war, he's just building bunker.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

cheese-cube posted:

jfc it's Colin Furze, he's not literally planning to outlast a nuclear war, just build a nuclear bomb out of old smoke detectors and strap it to some sort of jet powered hydraulic launcher

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Well now that's something I can get on-board with!

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

cheese-cube posted:

jfc it's Colin Furze, he's not literally planning to outlast a nuclear war, he's just building bunker.

I'm more interested to see if it outlasts the re-fill and first decent rain.

JB50
Feb 13, 2008

spog posted:

Somewhat bizarrely, they are specifically banned for sale:


https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives

Ive never heard throwing stars referred to as "death stars".

Thats no moon...

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Cat Hatter posted:

(About gravity knives)

A knife that can be opened by flicking the wrist (more centripetal force than gravity). They (and assisted opening knives, where you push the blade open a little bit and a spring opens it the rest of the way) are legal in the U.S. because they don't have a button do the work for you.

Unless you are in New York.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Three-Phase posted:

DANGER! UBX!

You called?

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

True. I amend my previous statement to say that there is not a country wide ban, but individual jurisdictions can apply more stringent weapons restrictions if they choose.

Pound_Coin
Feb 5, 2004
£


Royal W posted:

This video definitely needs the google eye and cartoon arms treatment. I'd love to see the two smokestacks passionately embrace all the way down.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Cat Hatter posted:

A knife that can be opened by flicking the wrist (more centripetal force than gravity). They (and assisted opening knives, where you push the blade open a little bit and a spring opens it the rest of the way) are legal in the U.S. because they don't have a button do the work for you.

NYC actually has a ban from like the 60s on gravity knives which cops are currently using as an excuse to arrest anyone (read minorities) with a knife on them regardless of what kind of knife it actually is

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

Raskolnikov38 posted:

NYC actually has a ban from like the 60s on gravity knives which cops are currently using as an excuse to arrest anyone (read minorities) with a knife on them regardless of what kind of knife it actually is

Yeah what does happen if you've got a completely legal folder that's beat up to the point where it kinda falls open on its own? I guess like all things in the great US of A, it depends on your melanin level and/or bank account balance.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

buttcoinbrony posted:

Yeah what does happen if you've got a completely legal folder that's beat up to the point where it kinda falls open on its own? I guess like all things in the great US of A, it depends on your melanin level and/or bank account balance.

The NYPD breaks the mechanism on your knife after they arrest you for standing on a street corner, and then claim that they arrested you for suspicious activity and charge you with owning a gravity knife.

Szymanski
Jul 31, 2005

You down with OCP?
Sugartime Jones

Raskolnikov38 posted:

what apocalypse is going to be survivable with two feet of dirt and some sheet metal over your head

Russia wont nuke Stamford when Peterborough is a few miles away. Furze will live on as a ghoul

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

buttcoinbrony posted:

Yeah what does happen if you've got a completely legal folder that's beat up to the point where it kinda falls open on its own? I guess like all things in the great US of A, it depends on your melanin level and/or bank account balance.

It is illegal. There are many cases in NYC of exactly that happening. A knife that was legal when sold becoming illegal due to wear and tear. Another good reason for PM I guess.

Also, you can buy these knifes in the store then be arrested for carrying it out the door. Never trust your vendor to do regulatory compliance for you, unless it's contracted.

(These knifes are often work requirements for theater techs etc and thus is vaguely OSHA)

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

Dick Trauma posted:

You called?



Hah my dad loved that show, he was very happy when I got him the DVD box set several Christmases ago. (It wasn't my thing, but still interesting.)

Solo night flight - total electrical failure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZtpLFICLec

"What are the chances of the runway lights turning off as he's making his final approach?" Spoiler: pretty drat good

Three-Phase fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Sep 29, 2015

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Three-Phase posted:

Hah my dad loved that show, he was very happy when I got him the DVD box set several Christmases ago. (It wasn't my thing, but still interesting.)

Solo night flight - total electrical failure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZtpLFICLec

"What are the chances of the runway lights turning off as he's making his final approach?" Spoiler: pretty drat good

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Hot Karl Marx posted:

this showed up as a suggested video to watch on youtube, seemed OSHA worthy as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dmhyWvhjDI

I'm the cars driving past 100m away

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009



How do you say "WHY DID YOU loving TURN?" in polish?

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot
Co za asy

Royal W
Jun 20, 2008

:vince:
I love you.

G-III
Mar 4, 2001

CSB just put up a new video on youtube. God I love these things:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbFzuS8Bdhw

BANME.sh
Jan 23, 2008

What is this??
Are you some kind of hypnotist??
Grimey Drawer

Budgie posted:

https://i.imgur.com/V1bFWYl.webm

Let me just catch the cheesy side of the pizza that just came out of the oven...

I did something similar when I worked at pizza hut in my teens. We had one of those conveyer belt ovens and there's a lip on the end so the pizza pan doesn't fall onto the floor once it exits the oven. I was pulling the pan off the belt using a gripping tool and didn't raise it enough to get clearance from the lip as I removed it from the belt. The pan edge hit the lip and I lost my grip, and my first instinct was "save the pizza". So I grabbed onto the 400 degree pan with my bare hands. I immediately let go afterwards and at least I didn't get scalding sauce and cheese on my skin.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Sir... you can't park there.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

G-III posted:

CSB just put up a new video on youtube. God I love these things:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbFzuS8Bdhw

At least it wasn't Phosgene this time. Remind me never to work at DuPont. :gonk:

From a process standpoint, my understanding is that equipment or system startups and shutdowns are some of the most dangerous times for a plant, as far as potential for things to go seriously wrong go. Anything abnormal during the startup makes things even more dangerous.

Three-Phase fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Oct 1, 2015

Overwined
Sep 22, 2008

Wine can of their wits the wise beguile,
Make the sage frolic, and the serious smile.

G-III posted:

CSB just put up a new video on youtube. God I love these things:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbFzuS8Bdhw

I don't. Because I know it'll probably just mean some new stripey warning paint in the plant, another 60 pages in the manual that no one will read, and otherwise it'll be business as usual.

Overwined
Sep 22, 2008

Wine can of their wits the wise beguile,
Make the sage frolic, and the serious smile.

Three-Phase posted:

At least it wasn't Phosgene this time. Remind me never to work at DuPont. :gonk:

From a process standpoint, my understanding is that equipment or system startups and shutdowns are some of the most dangerous times for a plant, as far as potential for things to go seriously wrong go. Anything abnormal during the startup makes things even more dangerous.

It seems like a common theme among CSB videos that some poo poo is broken and has been broken so long that operators regularly ignore alarms.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense





Saw this near work earlier

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Say Nothing posted:

Sir... you can't park there.



Listen, Betty, don't start up with your "white zone" poo poo again.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

Overwined posted:

It seems like a common theme among CSB videos that some poo poo is broken and has been broken so long that operators regularly ignore alarms.

I've been through some major alarm management stuff. It's pretty wild. For a big plant you may have something like 50,000 different "points" in a SCADA system (each point represents something, like a pressure, temperature, setpoint, on/off status, or a command). And then you have thousands of points that have alarms associated with them. If you have an analog measurement you may have several separate levels of alarms (alert, alarm, trip).

You're talking about nuisance alarms - that is something we're striving to identify and eliminate. They have software now that looks at and analyzes all the alarms in a plant. You may have 10,000 points that can cause alarms, but 90% of the alarms in the plant are from a handful of bad actors. It's a good low-hanging fruit to start from.

I've heard of plants where they've had sitting alarms for months and years. The operators just say "Oh yeah, that sensor has been bad for months now. Just ignore that alarm."

I wish I had that first clip from control room scene in "The China Syndrome" where they think the core water level is too high, until the guy taps the little recording indicator that was stuck and they realize to their complete horror the core is running dangerously low on water.

Three-Phase fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Oct 1, 2015

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nemYBeT4aQY

"Hey Jack, look at this feedwater level indicator!" :stonk:

Real life (simulator)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swr74_CDyLk

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Three-Phase posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nemYBeT4aQY

"Hey Jack, look at this feedwater level indicator!" :stonk:

Real life (simulator)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swr74_CDyLk

Do you know which alarm sounds like someone singing mezzo soprano?

It starts just before someone calls out the reactor trip.

JB50
Feb 13, 2008

Three-Phase posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nemYBeT4aQY

"Hey Jack, look at this feedwater level indicator!" :stonk:

Real life (simulator)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swr74_CDyLk

Guess we know where your av is from now huh?

Dread Head
Aug 1, 2005

0-#01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAIY0I5GGw4

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Say Nothing posted:

Sir... you can't park there.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7_G9ZX3Ieo

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Overwined posted:

I don't. Because I know it'll probably just mean some new stripey warning paint in the plant, another 60 pages in the manual that no one will read, and otherwise it'll be business as usual.

I love the videos but I also hate that their reports and recommendations on new policies are pretty much entirely ignored. Hell, having to put up more warning paint and a new manual would be an improvement over what happens now.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Improbable Lobster posted:

I love the videos but I also hate that their reports and recommendations on new policies are pretty much entirely ignored. Hell, having to put up more warning paint and a new manual would be an improvement over what happens now.

The CSB is a relatively newer thing, the fact that we have any governmental organization mandated to make those kinds of recommendations is actually huge.

It has worked too, there have been a few emergency changes made to standards due to CSB action.

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Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

G-III posted:

CSB just put up a new video on youtube. God I love these things:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbFzuS8Bdhw


Signage on the outside.

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