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Quentin Dupieux's newest movie, Reality, is just sort of sitting hidden on streaming. no clue if it's good or not, but I like Dupieux's other stuff, so I'm stoked.
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coyo7e posted:Well the fact that you keep mentioning "little girl vampire" indicates that you missed out on some fairly serious plot points. I refer to Eli as a girl because it's gender signifying. In both films Eli is played by a girl, so whether she chooses to identify as a girl was intentionally left ambiguous. The fact that she was originally a boy was acknowledged. Being castrated does not equate to being non-threatening. Eli was depicted as an extremely dangerous individual, and it could be considered rather sinister that she chose to "remove the angst and dangers" from Oskar's life through such violent means, however necessary they might have been. In Fight Club the narrator cherishes his friendship with Tyler Durden despite Durden's tendency to abuse his power because he'll often use it to benefit the narrator. Just because a relationship is "tender" doesn't mean it can't be unhealthy. Seems like you forgot to spoiler your post so I did it for you.
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Sep 28, 2015 19:04
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Everyone should shut up and start watching Zoo immediately. Telepathic lions, mass housecat migrations. Episode 2 has a Jack Russell Terrier stealing souvenirs from tourists to lead them into a deadly dog ambush in an abandoned warehouse. Episode 3 has a pack of wolves staging a prison break. All of the guards forget that they're in a prison and could just shut the door behind them to be safe from the bloodthirsty pack.  It's absolutely amazing. Raskolnikov2089 fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Sep 28, 2015 |
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Sep 28, 2015 19:31
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Zoo as in the shithouse James Patterson novel?
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Sep 28, 2015 21:25
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So it's "The Happening" with animals?
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Sep 28, 2015 21:30
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Zoo as in the shithouse James Patterson novel? Turned into a shithouse CBS TV Show. Cocoa Ninja posted:So it's "The Happening" with animals? Pretty much. In the next episode it's revealed the pack of wolves apparently wiped out the entire prison, with no survivors (except for the death row prisoner they are telepathically linked with that they rescued). It's just so very, bad and amazing. There are French characters who speak in French for the first episode and a half, and then I guess it got to expensive too pay for subtitle translators so they just switch to heavily accented English and have been speaking that ever since, even when it's just the two of them. The first episode's climax is a tree full of housecats. Don't know how else to describe it. Raskolnikov2089 fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Sep 29, 2015 |
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Sep 28, 2015 22:11
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All these things you are saying don't jive with "a bad show"...
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Sep 29, 2015 00:40
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Imagine the first 15 minutes of a 90's disaster movie stretched out for hours. Or maybe a 90's made-for-TV adaptation of Stephen King. Two actors are definitely channeling Jean Reno and Maria Patillo from Godzilla 98. It's very 90's is what I'm saying.
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Sep 29, 2015 01:27
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Huh. On the one hand Jean Reno was far and away the best part of Godzilla 98, on the other Petillo was far and away the worst...
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Sep 29, 2015 01:31
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I watched like 20 minutes of zoo and it's amazingly bad. I never really catch network dramas anymore, so it's always kind of jarring to see how poorly written/acted they are.
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Sep 29, 2015 01:37
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Speaking of animal flicks, I couldn't stop laughing during White God during the "dog fight" scene, which is clearly footage of two dogs playing with each other overlayed with an audio track of dogs fighting. It's kind of like in Cujo; once you notice that in the scenes where Cujo is directly "attacking" someone that he's actually just licking them to death, the whole movie's tone changes. In the scenes where Cujo is attacking the car trying to get in, they made him do that by putting his favorite toys in the car and then telling him to go get them.
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Sep 29, 2015 01:56
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Maxwell Lord posted:Huh. On the one hand Jean Reno was far and away the best part of Godzilla 98, on the other Petillo was far and away the worst... That's a shame because we get a very poor Jean Reno but Kristen Connolly is a spot on Petillo.
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Sep 29, 2015 01:58
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NESguerilla posted:I watched like 20 minutes of zoo and it's amazingly bad. I never really catch network dramas anymore, so it's always kind of jarring to see how poorly written/acted they are. We've been kinda spoiled when it comes to quality the last decade and a bit, it's always jarring whenever I watch an American network show because wow, I didn't remember them being that bad. I can't think of any that I can tolerate.
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Sep 29, 2015 02:37
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I've heard critics like The Good Wife and maybe a few other dramas. I think network sitcoms are the real dinosaurs - who are the monsters that watch these shows!? It's the same awkward unreal laugh track crap we got in the 90s.
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Sep 29, 2015 02:44
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I was really into CSI like ten years ago and I saw the series finale was on the other night but I couldn't bring myself to watch it because Grissom looked really fat in the preview. Fatter than usual I mean.
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Sep 29, 2015 02:49
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There are plenty of good network shows, using Zoo as your metric is like saying that all cable dramas are garbage because you caught 20 minutes of Sharknado once when you were channel-surfing.
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Sep 29, 2015 02:50
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Sleeveless posted:There are plenty of good network shows, using Zoo as your metric is like saying that all cable dramas are garbage because you caught 20 minutes of Sharknado once when you were channel-surfing. I'm not using it as my metric, just saying that I've come to demand a certain level of quality from my TV which probably makes me a loving lame pretentious snob, but I dunno when you take the stuff HBO, AMC, Netflix are making it can be kinda hard to swallow network crap. Hell I'd rather watch Rick and Morty than 99% of network shows.
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Sep 29, 2015 02:53
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cat doter posted:I'm not using it as my metric, just saying that I've come to demand a certain level of quality from my TV which probably makes me a loving lame pretentious snob, but I dunno when you take the stuff HBO, AMC, Netflix are making it can be kinda hard to swallow network crap. Hell I'd rather watch Rick and Morty than 99% of network shows. poo poo still pops up from time to time that really shouldn't exist as a network show, like Hannibal. I know that wasn't everyone's thing but it was obviously on a different level than most other network drama.
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Sep 29, 2015 02:56
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Gotham is pretty good but I notice everywhere they go there's one lampshade, so I'm hoping there was a one-off silver-age comic villain who was a lampshade salesman-gone-insane, and that's the big reveal at the end.
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Sep 29, 2015 03:05
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Basebf555 posted:poo poo still pops up from time to time that really shouldn't exist as a network show, like Hannibal. I know that wasn't everyone's thing but it was obviously on a different level than most other network drama. Yeah it's definitely not a hard rule or anything, there's always exceptions.
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Sep 29, 2015 03:06
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Basebf555 posted:poo poo still pops up from time to time that really shouldn't exist as a network show, like Hannibal. I know that wasn't everyone's thing but it was obviously on a different level than most other network drama. I didn't know there were people out actively hating Hannibal. It was mostly amazing.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:48
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Wiggles Von Huggins posted:I didn't know there were people out actively hating Hannibal. It was mostly amazing. Like anything that is good / has a noticed group of fans, you'll see a group hate it if only to piss off / be different from the fans.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:51
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david_a posted:I've heard critics like The Good Wife and maybe a few other dramas. I think network sitcoms are the real dinosaurs - who are the monsters that watch these shows!? It's the same awkward unreal laugh track crap we got in the 90s. Yeah, the fact that sitcoms still exist seems crazy to me. It's such a bizarre netherworld.
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Sep 29, 2015 15:54
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Hannibal also became rather divisive for fans itself as the show gradually shed its procedural beginnings and went all-out into an art-house dreamscape direction and seasons long extended metaphors on god, the devil, and free will. I basically loved it from the beginning to the end but I can see how it started to alienate its own fanbase as the show wore on.
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Sep 29, 2015 16:34
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Wiggles Von Huggins posted:I didn't know there were people out actively hating Hannibal. It was mostly amazing. i only watched the first four episodes but i thought it sucked balls, and i'm a big Mikkelson fanboy
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Sep 29, 2015 16:38
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:i only watched the first four episodes but i thought it sucked balls, and i'm a big Mikkelson fanboy You're definitely not alone. Hannibal was a weird show to try to recommend to people, it was very hard to predict which of my friends would like it. There were a few who I was certain would and they couldn't get through the first few episodes, they thought it was terrible. Now that its over and it done with, and it ended in what I think is a very satisfying way, Hannibal is probably one of my top-5 favorite t.v. shows of all time. Its no Wire of Breaking Bad, but its in the tier right below that.
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Sep 29, 2015 17:18
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I wasn't a super fan of Hannibal or whatever, and to be honest I barely remember the first season, but the last couple of seasons were loving magic.
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Sep 29, 2015 20:18
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I love Hannibal, but my parents didn't cotton to it at all simply because they hate the Hannibal Lecter character so much. I feel like that might have poisoned the well for a lot of people who'd ordinarily be in.
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Sep 29, 2015 21:02
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Speaking of animal flicks, I couldn't stop laughing during White God during the "dog fight" scene, which is clearly footage of two dogs playing with each other overlayed with an audio track of dogs fighting. Oh my god I thought I was the only one who noticed that. I enjoyed it as a double bill with white dog, which was, in my opinion, the better movie.
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Sep 29, 2015 22:50
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Sep 29, 2015 23:16
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Yeah. I can totally see not liking Hannibal, but saying it sucked balls is weird. There's a level of craft and care there that is extremely rare in television (especially network television.) Full disclosure I loved Hannibal.
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Sep 29, 2015 23:33
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Asnorban posted:Yeah. I can totally see not liking Hannibal, but saying it sucked balls is weird. There's a level of craft and care there that is extremely rare in television (especially network television.) Full disclosure I loved Hannibal. that was a harsh and crude way to put it and i'll acknowledge that it's a step up from most network bullshit. so let's just say i thought it was very bad. set design, music, and cinematography were pretty good. writing & the guy who played Will Graham (and pretty much everyone but Fishburne and Mikkelson) were very not good.
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Sep 29, 2015 23:38
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I've gone back and forth on how I feel about Hannibal, but I don't think it has any major flaws. The writing and acting are very focused on certain unusual things, and so they made room by cutting out a lot of the logistics that most shows about detectives focus on. Some people don't like that, but it was definitely a careful creative choice. Same for the decision to go in slightly fantastical, unrealistic directions. They definitely succeeded at making the show they set out to make. The only question is if that's a show that you or I want to watch. Personally, I just need to see more plot momentum and at least a little bit of a sense of humor. It was just so slow and staid that I wasn't looking forward to watching it. But I still think it's impressive and I'm glad it exists.
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Sep 29, 2015 23:47
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wafflesnsegways posted:I've gone back and forth on how I feel about Hannibal, but I don't think it has any major flaws. The writing and acting are very focused on certain unusual things, and so they made room by cutting out a lot of the logistics that most shows about detectives focus on. Some people don't like that, but it was definitely a careful creative choice. Same for the decision to go in slightly fantastical, unrealistic directions. The Red Dragon season was interesting in this regard since you have the other adaptations to compare it to. They just assume you'll understand that Hannibal know's people secrets, that Hannibal can make a phone call to anyone he wants while locked in a psychiatric institution, etc. without having to bother with the mechanics. What did people think of the Fargo TV show? I'm part way through the first season (it's on Hulu) and struggling a bit with feeling like it's a ten hour movie. I'm enjoying Billy Bob Thornton and the cop lady, but I kinda wish they were in something that was just a couple of hours.
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Sep 29, 2015 23:59
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Anyone else seen Exporting Raymond? It's a documentary about the creators of Everybody Loves Raymond trying to create a Russian version of the show. It definitely doesn't hesitate to pile on the cheese and platitudes about *~culture~*, but it's also really funny at times and hits some pretty interesting points about how comedy translates between cultures. If nothing else, you should enjoy it if you like behind the scenes docs.
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Sir Kodiak posted:What did people think of the Fargo TV show? I'm part way through the first season (it's on Hulu) and struggling a bit with feeling like it's a ten hour movie. I'm enjoying Billy Bob Thornton and the cop lady, but I kinda wish they were in something that was just a couple of hours. I loved it. It kinda flubs a couple of moments and maybe should've been 8 episodes instead of 10 but overall i was all about it. Very stoked for season 2.
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Sep 30, 2015 00:08
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wafflesnsegways posted:I'Same for the decision to go in slightly fantastical, unrealistic directions. The only way Hannibal could have been more fantastical would have been to have a serial killer who was an actual wizard.
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Sep 30, 2015 00:13
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I thought Fargo was phenomenal because of Alison Tolman.
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Sep 30, 2015 00:16
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I thought Fargo was phenomenal because of Alison Tolman. Agreed. I wasn't really all that impressed by Thornton's performance, I thought it was good but nothing memorable. Much like the movie version Alison Tolman's character carried the show for me and kept me invested from start to finish.
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Hell yes. I liked a lot of things about Fargo but Alison Tolman was the best thing.
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