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Dalael your battleground is that Bernie has a chance to win NY in the primaries from Hillary?
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Dalael posted:Pretty much my point. The schedule however, nicely demonstrate the point. Except it doesn't to anyone that isn't in love with the Chicken man. Because this Veskit posted:Dalael your battleground is that Bernie has a chance to win NY in the primaries from Hillary? among others
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Sep 30, 2015 16:47
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Trabisnikof posted:I mean, if the fact the Pope opposes gay marriage is news to you... No he can oppose whatever he wants but people should be condemning him and he shouldn't get talked about as if he is somehow a progressive.
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Sep 30, 2015 16:49
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Veskit posted:Dalael your battleground is that Bernie has a chance to win NY in the primaries from Hillary? What? No. My point is that those debates are poorly scheduled. I even mentioned Dalael posted:Look at the dates I've shown.
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Sep 30, 2015 16:49
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Mulva posted:So can we talk about how the Pope is still a hateful bigot and shouldn't be fawned over? If your bar for the Pope being a cool dude is a reversal of positions held by a world-spanning religion with a literal millenia-old bureaucracy and tradition, no Pope is ever going to be good enough for maybe another couple millenia again. Not that there's anything wrong with maintaining such a high standard, but some people choose the religious equivalent of applauding Hillary's decision to call out Martin Shkreli and coming out against Keystone XL, even as they acknowledge that the latter was late and the rest of the platform isn't nearly as progressive as it could be.
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Sep 30, 2015 16:49
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DinosaurEggSalad posted:In one state! It's a national primary, and the number of people who would register in NY after a single debate is probably in the thousands, maaaybe low five digits. NYS has almost 20 million residents. Considering NY is her state the idea that there would be a noticable flip toward Bernie is kinda laughable. Dalael posted:No. I didn't say how many debates I want. I said 6 isn't enough. I think we have different ideas on what constitutes "known" and "notable". Dalael posted:What? No. My point is that those debates are poorly scheduled. I even mentioned
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Sep 30, 2015 16:50
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zoux posted:I think probably that prolife people think she got chumped and prochoice people think she was the one doing the chumping. That is to say, this isn't an issue it's possible to sway opinion on. The prolife people I know were in "UGH they're not asking the right questions! They look like idiots!" mode yesterday, but they got their marching orders from the media machine and are now totally gung ho that Richards got destroyed.
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Sep 30, 2015 16:50
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:In a thread about corrupted politics and political machinery people are aghast at the slightest accusation that democrats could possibly use their organization to promote their preferred candidate. The DNC and DWS are bastions of political purity. the DNC is definitely using its organization to help Clinton, and that is probably why there are so few debates. At the same time, the selection of the dates is not a dastardly plot to throw the NY primary to Clinton, and saying that we need to give Robby Wells and Willie Wilson a shot in the debates is extremely laffo
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Sep 30, 2015 16:51
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Dalael posted:Look at the dates I've shown. the deadline is for 2015 elections only. why the gently caress would the registration for an april 2016 election be in october? look at 2012: quote:New York was one of 21 states to use a strictly closed primary system. Voters were required to register to vote in the primary by June 1, 2012, which was 25 days before the primary took place.
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Sep 30, 2015 16:52
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Maybe Bernie would have more establishment support if he was a better politician and candidate I don't know.
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Sep 30, 2015 16:52
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Gravel Gravy posted:Considering NY is her state the idea that there would be a noticable flip toward Bernie is kinda laughable. I literally copied and pasted from the wiki. I added the quotes to notable for the same reason you made that poo poo post.
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Sep 30, 2015 16:53
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Mulva posted:No he can oppose whatever he wants but people should be condemning him and he shouldn't get talked about as if he is somehow a progressive. I think people are calling him progressive for a Pope, not progressive as in he should join the Progressive Caucus. He does have a number of stances that are to the left of one of the ruling parties in the U.S. so some people find that notable for a leader of a millennia old centralized-authoritarian religious group with over a billion followers.
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Sep 30, 2015 16:54
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I'm skeptical that a significant number of voters tune into debates to honestly decide which candidate they are going to vote for. Debates nowadays are just about not loving up and playing prevent D.
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Sep 30, 2015 16:54
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euphronius posted:Maybe Bernie would have more establishment support if he was a better politician and candidate I don't know. Or if his fervent supporters didn't come off as raving loons. Case in point: Dalael posted:I literally copied and pasted from the wiki. I added the quotes to notable for the same reason you made that poo poo post. So you yourself mock the idea that they have a chance in hell and bemoan it at the same time?
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Sep 30, 2015 16:54
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sudo rm -rf posted:the deadline is for 2015 elections only. why the gently caress would the registration for an april 2016 election be in october? October 9th is the deadline for people to register as democrats if they are registered as either independant or republicans. meanning anyone who wants to make the switch and vote for a democratic candidate past the debate, won't be able to.
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Sep 30, 2015 16:55
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We need a more democratic process! Don't shut out Jeff Boss! Jet fuel can't melt steel beams! - Dalael
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Sep 30, 2015 16:56
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Gravel Gravy posted:Or if his fervent supporters didn't come off as raving loons. Case in point: The fact that they have literally no chance, does not mean we shouldn't be having a good number of debates for their ideas to be out there. 4 months ago, most people said Bernie Sanders (for example) had absolutely no chance. Now he's polly at less than 10 point from Clinton. Wtf do you have against more debates anyways? Afraid your little queen will lose face again?
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Sep 30, 2015 16:56
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Gravel Gravy posted:Considering NY is her state the idea that there would be a noticable flip toward Bernie is kinda laughable. gently caress YOU HARRY BRAUN IS AMERICA'S NEXT PRESIDENT
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Sep 30, 2015 16:56
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Gravel Gravy posted:Or if his fervent supporters didn't come off as raving loons. Case in point: I'm glad that we on the left can now have the Ron Paul Experience.
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Sep 30, 2015 16:56
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dalael what would the proper unbiased debate schedule be
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Sep 30, 2015 16:56
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Popular Thug Drink posted:dalael what would the proper unbiased debate schedule be One that includes more debates, at better dates. But hey.. I'm done with this. Obviously, democracy is over rated and you guys think debates is a waste of time. All hail queen  , Make way for her coronation. gently caress democracy.
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Sep 30, 2015 16:58
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Like I feel like I've made this point already, but I really want to emphasize here that Dalael tried to say we should have more debates by counting Harry Braun, Jeff Boss, Robby Wells, Willie Wilson, and Laurence Lessig as important candidates, and it's extremely funny to me
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Sep 30, 2015 16:59
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Dalael posted:One that includes more debates, at better dates. why do you think more debates would benefit sanders
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Sep 30, 2015 16:59
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Dalael posted:October 9th is the deadline for people to register as democrats if they are registered as either independant or republicans. meanning anyone who wants to make the switch and vote for a democratic candidate past the debate, won't be able to. then who cares?
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Sep 30, 2015 17:00
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Dalael posted:One that includes more debates, at better dates. You can't even come up with better dates because you know your argument is dumb Bob Ojeda posted:Like I feel like I've made this point already, but I really want to emphasize here that Dalael tried to say we should have more debates by counting Harry Braun, Jeff Boss, Robby Wells, Willie Wilson, and Laurence Lessig as important candidates, and it's extremely funny to me Or that Clinton has an evil scheme to keep people from registering as Democrats in New York
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Sep 30, 2015 17:00
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Bob Ojeda posted:Like I feel like I've made this point already, but I really want to emphasize here that Dalael tried to say we should have more debates by counting Harry Braun, Jeff Boss, Robby Wells, Willie Wilson, and Laurence Lessig as important candidates, and it's extremely funny to me I would legit love to see a debate with all these guys because it'd be loving hilarious. Harry Braun all talking about how the 6th great extinction is coming, Willie Wilson just wearing that "I farted" face all the time.. I don't know poo poo about Jeff Boss or Robby Wells, but I'm guessing they're loving nuts. edit Oh thank god I decided to google "NOTABLE CANDIDATE" Jeff Boss:  Googled Robby Wells too, I kinda like him! quote:As we continue this journey to Washington, it has become very apparent that my plan, "Eaglenomics," is what our nation needs and desires. pathetic little tramp fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Sep 30, 2015 |
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Sep 30, 2015 17:00
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Dalael posted:One that includes more debates, at better dates. also whats wrong with the dates they picked, specifically. are they celestially inauspicious or something
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Sep 30, 2015 17:01
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How about we move on from this subject with a comprimise? DWS/the DNC is obviously trying to bias the debate structure to minimize exposure, which is probably in Hillary's favor as the estabishment candidate. However there are few dates out there which couldn't be pegged as 'bad' if you're willing to stretch far enough (OMG we can't have it on November 7th, that's after Alabama's voter registration closes! And the 10th is out, that's Fallout 4 comes out that day and you'll have a decrease in millineals watching! CONSPIRACY!), there's all of two candidates who are polling above the margin of error so twenty-loving-six debates between them is ludicrous, and Daleal is acting like a goddamn loon who's turning more people off than proving a point. Can we all get behind that?
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Sep 30, 2015 17:02
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Popular Thug Drink posted:also whats wrong with the dates they picked, specifically. are they celestially inauspicious or something 3 are on the weekend. Only weekday debates are "legit" debates. All 4 come after a registration deadline for some US state and thus are anti-Sanders. Only debates that take place before any and all registration deadlines are valid.
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Sep 30, 2015 17:02
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Mulva posted:No he can oppose whatever he wants but people should be condemning him and he shouldn't get talked about as if he is somehow a progressive. Because jeering at world leaders until they become totally ideologically correct to our current left-standard of the moment isn't effective. The man is utterly wrong on a few issues, but is a force for good on a lot more. It's almost as if he's making...progress...on various issues that are imminantly important from a global perspective. Or we could just keep jeering, and cede the effective medium of religion to the right for another 40 years, as it's done so well for us in the interim since the civil rights era.
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Sep 30, 2015 17:03
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dalael *pounds chest w/ fist* come and show me the efficacy of endless debate in swaying the majority opinion *arsenio hall woot woot noise*
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Sep 30, 2015 17:06
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Popular Thug Drink posted:why do you think more debates would benefit sanders I would assume because Sanders himself said that there should be more debates in an interview on, I believe MSNBC, so of course there need to be more debates, he said so!
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Sep 30, 2015 17:06
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Dalael posted:The fact that they have literally no chance, does not mean we shouldn't be having a good number of debates for their ideas to be out there. The point is you seem to like using certain facts an awful lot when they support your case and then in the same vain ignore them when they don't. I am not a big fan of disinformation. Keep in mind that it is my intent to vote for Bernie in the primary, so I am unsure why you call her my Queen. I'd suggest you get your facts straight but considering your argument I may as well search for Atlantis in Nairobi.
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Sep 30, 2015 17:06
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Mulva posted:No he can oppose whatever he wants but people should be condemning him and he shouldn't get talked about as if he is somehow a progressive. This Pope is actually progressive as all gently caress on a poo poo-load of issues. I can applaud and recognize him for that and also disapprove of his few negative positions because I'm not a goddamn idiot.
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Sep 30, 2015 17:07
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Popular Thug Drink posted:also whats wrong with the dates they picked, specifically. are they celestially inauspicious or something Because they sound spooky scary when pasted on a jpeg.
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Sep 30, 2015 17:07
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KiteAuraan posted:I would assume because Sanders himself said that there should be more debates in an interview on, I believe MSNBC, so of course there need to be more debates, he said so! I mean, its fairly common political thinking that a front-runner wants fewer debates and an underdog wants more.
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Sep 30, 2015 17:08
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The NY State thing is a dumb non-issue Having three (3) debates on Saturday is really, really dumb tho DWS should have been fired after he midterms
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Sep 30, 2015 17:08
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moderator: Mr. Sanders, is it true that your ipod contains only one song, with only one playlist, the Rolling Stones "Brown Sugar" on repeat? sanders: 
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Sep 30, 2015 17:09
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Popular Thug Drink posted:moderator: Mr. Sanders, is it true that your ipod contains only one song, with only one playlist, the Rolling Stones "Brown Sugar" on repeat? Is it bad that I sing that song every time a recipe calls for brown sugar?
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Tempest_56 posted:How about we move on from this subject with a comprimise? DWS/the DNC is obviously trying to bias the debate structure to minimize exposure, which is probably in Hillary's favor as the estabishment candidate. However there are few dates out there which couldn't be pegged as 'bad' if you're willing to stretch far enough (OMG we can't have it on November 7th, that's after Alabama's voter registration closes! And the 10th is out, that's Fallout 4 comes out that day and you'll have a decrease in millineals watching! CONSPIRACY!), there's all of two candidates who are polling above the margin of error so twenty-loving-six debates between them is ludicrous, and Daleal is acting like a goddamn loon who's turning more people off than proving a point. I never said I wanted 26 debates. I said that 6 isn't enough. Then I used the example of the 2008 primairies as a comparison. 2008 had twice more candidate, and 4 times more debates. Something like 12 debates would probably be better. Its not my fault if you retards can't help but imagine words I did not say. And if you think that the saturday right before christmas, is a good date.. then you're fuckign delusional. Same for a NFL division playoff that attracts a poo poo ton of viewers. Gravel Gravy posted:The point is you seem to like using certain facts an awful lot when they support your case and then in the same vain ignore them when they don't. I am not a big fan of disinformation. What facts did I ignore? Go back 4 or 5 pages if you like, and tell me what facts did I ignore?
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