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Guavanaut posted:What about Belgium?
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Whorelord posted:a nation state England is actually the only part of the UK that can't be conceivably called a nation state within state, IMHO, as it wasn't devolved.
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Sep 29, 2015 22:56
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Obligatory reply: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10 "The United Kingdom is a country of countries" This is the best explanation.
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Sep 29, 2015 23:16
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From this we learn that Europe played entirely too much Crusader Kings 2 and EU4, and in punishment, a congress of African leaders should be convened to redraw all of their borders arbitrarily.
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Sep 29, 2015 23:31
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Guavanaut posted:Politically-related map. State Religions Dark Blue: Protestantism Blue: Orthodox Light Blue: Catholic Dark Green: Sunni Islam Green: Islam (in general) Light Green: Shia Islam Yellow: Theravada Buddhism Interesting note, although the Church of England is the state church of England no other part of the UK has a state church. The church of Scotland, Church of Wales (when it was split from the Church of England) and the Church of Ireland have all been disestablished. Also additional interesting fact, due to the nature of the Union the Queen has two religions, in England and elsewhere she is the Supreme Governor of the Church of England. When she crosses into Scotland she becomes an ordinary member of the Church of Scotland.
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Sep 30, 2015 01:07
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steinrokkan posted:England is actually the only part of the UK that can't be conceivably called a nation state within state, IMHO, as it wasn't devolved. i know, which is why it is a country but not a nation state quote:State Religions bhutan follows vajrayana buddhism, not therevada
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Sep 30, 2015 01:38
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Whorelord posted:i know, which is why it is a country but not a nation state Ah, my mistake, when I verified it I pulled the wrong data. Yellow therefore represents Buddhism (in general).
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Sep 30, 2015 02:03
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Whorelord posted:i know, which is why it is a country but not a nation state And once again this thread reminds me of thing that I only know exist from playing EU4.
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Sep 30, 2015 07:07
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Guavanaut posted:Politically-related map. Is Bangladesh colored accurately? I thought they were explicitly a secular people's republic?
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Sep 30, 2015 09:24
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Bloodnose posted:Is Bangladesh colored accurately? I thought they were explicitly a secular people's republic? quote:Although initially Bangladesh opted for a secular nationalist ideology as embodied in its Constitution, the principle of secularism was subsequently replaced by a commitment to the Islamic way of life through a series of constitutional amendments and government proclamations between 1977 and 1988. The Constitution establishes Islam as the state religion but provides for the right to practice—subject to law, public order, and morality—the religion of one's choice.
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Sep 30, 2015 09:36
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I think it's a bit misleading to group all those countries together, because as it is “state religion“ on this map goes from “official services will be conducted by this specific religious group (which represents 90% of the population anyway)“ to “practising another religion than the official one will get you killed“. Otoh I couldn't say how to properly represent this on a map 
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Sep 30, 2015 09:49
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Finland has two official religions, so is that map strictly countries with one or...?
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Sep 30, 2015 10:42
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Bangladesh noooooooo
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Sep 30, 2015 11:12
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System Metternich posted:I think it's a bit misleading to group all those countries together, because as it is “state religion“ on this map goes from “official services will be conducted by this specific religious group (which represents 90% of the population anyway)“ to “practising another religion than the official one will get you killed“. Otoh I couldn't say how to properly represent this on a map I'm curious which ones you think have the latter.
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Sep 30, 2015 12:08
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Ras Het posted:Finland has two official religions, so is that map strictly countries with one or...? As far as I remember there hasn't been a state church since 1870, but de facto we absolutely have two state churches. It's simply a question of nomenclature
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Sep 30, 2015 13:46
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computer parts posted:I'm curious which ones you think have the latter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Saudi_Arabia It's either being a Muslim (of a specific school of Islam) or not being a Saudi citizen. Converting to another religion while being a citizen is punishable by death.
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Sep 30, 2015 13:50
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Yeah I remember when I lived in riyadh the "church" was the basement of the american ambassadors residence and we had escape drills in case the mutaween turned up. In fact most aspects of life involved escape plans in case the mutaween turned up.
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Sep 30, 2015 16:35
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Yeah I remember when I lived in riyadh the "church" was the basement of the american ambassadors residence and we had escape drills in case the mutaween turned up. Truly a model to look up to
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Sep 30, 2015 16:55
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kalstrams posted:My bad, I stand corrected. E: One could also argue for Netherlands. Uhmm... how so?
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Sep 30, 2015 19:30
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Orange Devil posted:Uhmm... how so?
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Sep 30, 2015 19:38
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kalstrams posted:Apparently, there are bunch of small overseas territories that belong to Netherlands and that are defined as separate countries by Dutch law, making it "a country of countries" like UK, or something along those lines. Eh maybe if you were talking about the Kingdom of the Netherlands rather than the Netherlands.
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Sep 30, 2015 19:42
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Orange Devil posted:Eh maybe if you were talking about the Kingdom of the Netherlands rather than the Netherlands. I think the point he's making is that 99% of people who don't live in the Netherlands don't realize there's a difference.
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Sep 30, 2015 19:43
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kalstrams posted:Apparently, there are bunch of small overseas territories that belong to Netherlands and that are defined as separate countries by Dutch law, making it "a country of countries" like UK, or something along those lines. By that definition, wouldn't Denmark also count as a "country of countries" since the crown also controls Greenland and the Faroe Islands?
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Sep 30, 2015 19:43
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Badger of Basra posted:I think the point he's making is that 99% of people who don't live in the Netherlands don't realize there's a difference.  Pakled posted:By that definition, wouldn't Denmark also count as a "country of countries" since the crown also controls Greenland and the Faroe Islands?
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Sep 30, 2015 19:53
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Pakled posted:By that definition, wouldn't Denmark also count as a "country of countries" since the crown also controls Greenland and the Faroe Islands?
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Sep 30, 2015 20:03
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Orange Devil posted:Eh maybe if you were talking about the Kingdom of the Netherlands rather than the Netherlands. kalstrams posted:That was the case for me, I had no idea that Kingdom of the Netherlands wasn't just the full name. Aaaaaand... just on cue, the other must-see CGP Grey video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_IUPInEuc E: It does annoy me that he can't pronounce a ç properly.
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Sep 30, 2015 22:17
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Carbon dioxide posted:Aaaaaand... just on cue, the other must-see CGP Grey video.
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Sep 30, 2015 22:46
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Belgium isn't really a country. Its a place that England made to settle its differences with Germany every few years.
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Oct 1, 2015 14:03
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sparatuvs posted:Its a place that England made to settle its differences with Germany every few years. The Austrians actually made it to fight the Spanish in after they fought the Dutch just to keep in the first place, and the French took it from them until the British made them give it to the Dutch, and eventually after some more fighting the British made the Dutch leave it independent. Really its only good use is as a battlefield. Kavak fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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Oct 1, 2015 14:49
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Kavak posted:Really its only good use is as a battlefield. 
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Oct 1, 2015 14:54
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I sure haven't heard any of those jokes before. Next someone will come out and say we're boring or make a beer and waffle remark. The wit!
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Oct 1, 2015 18:32
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You should be proud that Belgium is the most talked-about country in the thread, even if it's mostly due to A Buttery Pastry making the exact same post on every page.
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Oct 1, 2015 18:57
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the jizz taxi posted:I sure haven't heard any of those jokes before. Next someone will come out and say we're boring or make a beer and waffle remark. The wit! I remember a couple of the millions of paedophile jokes that sprung up during the whole Dutroux thing, but they aren't all that witty either 
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Oct 1, 2015 19:21
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Phlegmish posted:You should be proud that Belgium is the most talked-about country in the thread, even if it's mostly due to A Buttery Pastry making the exact same post on every page.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:44
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Walloon and Fleming aren't real words
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Oct 1, 2015 21:59
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Kurtofan posted:Walloon and Fleming aren't real words they're names some fantasy author threw out for nations in his book for sounding a bit too silly and light-hearted for the post-game of thrones "low fantasy" w/ lots of swears and rape he was trying to write the names travelled through time and space and ended up being taken seriously by the most serious of all people, the belgians
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Oct 2, 2015 03:24
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The Belgians aren't a people. They're French, German and Dutch.
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Oct 2, 2015 06:36
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Charles Baudelaire wrote a lot about how Belgium sucks rear end and they published the texts and based on them I'd say Baudelaire sucked a lot more than Belgium welp that's everything I know about Belgium. And Baudelaire.
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Oct 2, 2015 07:24
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Boiled Water posted:The Belgians aren't a people. They're French, German and Dutch. this but also the dutch are just germans
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There's a reason EU4 lets you ahistorically form nations like Germany, Italy, Scandinavia, or Hindustan in the year 1600 but not Belgium.
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