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The Gate posted:If you want to run Dash, I'd suggest pairing him with something more maneuverable than a B-Wing. If I saw one of those across the table I'd just rush the B-Wing with everything and kill it in a turn or two. 8 HP doesn't last long when it's the only target. The point slotting and lack of 'bug out' speed is kind of the reason I don't think B wing aces are very good in general, despite some strong abilities.
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Endman posted:Why wouldn't you put a Mangler Cannon on Ten Numb? Unblockable crits are his whole thing. I don't have the card yet  EDIT: Autoblaster seems like a good idea too, no? They can't evade hits and he stops one crit from being evaded. Admiral Joeslop fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Sep 30, 2015 |
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Sep 30, 2015 22:31
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Autoblaster is only range 1 and people will stay away from you if you use it: it is also overcosted for what it does. You can find the mango here and if you are just doing casuals, people usually print a sheet of their cards and proxy stuff they don't have.
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Sep 30, 2015 22:42
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Endman posted:Why wouldn't you put a Mangler Cannon on Ten Numb? Unblockable crits are his whole thing. Its not super worth the points (unless your meta is still Deci-Soontir)
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Sep 30, 2015 23:04
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If you aren't going to take the mango you might as well not take Numb which, yeah, is not super worth the points but still fun to play.
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Sep 30, 2015 23:06
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I don't have the card yet I have a billion of the damned things, I will mail you a Manger Cannon if you want one. It's a pretty good card, but they started putting it in everything so I have more than I can use.
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Cobbsprite posted:I have a billion of the damned things, I will mail you a Manger Cannon if you want one. It's a pretty good card, but they started putting it in everything so I have more than I can use. Sent you a PM.
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Oct 1, 2015 00:28
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For those who haven't yet picked up Wave 7, there's a MassDrop going for one of each ship. Sitting at $60 plus shipping, but if enough people sign up, another $5 gets knocked off. Have a link!
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Oct 1, 2015 15:36
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jivjov posted:For those who haven't yet picked up Wave 7, there's a MassDrop going for one of each ship. Sitting at $60 plus shipping, but if enough people sign up, another $5 gets knocked off. Have a link! Oh, that's awesome. I already got a one-each set, but I'll get seconds for that price point.
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Oct 1, 2015 16:48
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Speaking of wave 7, I need to round out an amazon order. Thread, should I buy a second K-wing or a second Khiraxnsnzz?
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Oct 1, 2015 17:27
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I can't imagine needing a second ordinance-heavy fighter. In my experience, unless you're very skilled with bombs and the like, it's just not worth packing up two of them in the same list.
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Oct 1, 2015 17:34
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I can't imagine a good use for most of the X-wing poo poo I buy, but that hasn't stopped me yet! 
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grassy gnoll posted:Speaking of wave 7, I need to round out an amazon order. Thread, should I buy a second K-wing or a second Khiraxnsnzz? A second TIE Punisher, then send it to me. I want to try a Redline/Deathrain/Miniswarm list.
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I kinda want to get in on that mass drop but the only thing I really want is a second YV666. And yet I don't even have the first one yet! I am gonna tag some Domokun on that sucker grassy gnoll posted:I can't imagine a good use for most of the X-wing poo poo I buy, but that hasn't stopped me yet! Have you tried painting them?
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I actually have, but I'm never sure where to start. The last time I did mini painting it was still the 90s and I got my mom to shell out for a Warham paint box. Which Vallejo range is best for X-wings?
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Oct 1, 2015 18:04
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I prefer VGC cuz it's more vibrant and fun but a lot of people go with VMC for the more subdued palette that's used for ships. They're all the same aside from air colors which are pre-thinned.
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Oct 1, 2015 18:40
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grassy gnoll posted:I actually have, but I'm never sure where to start. The last time I did mini painting it was still the 90s and I got my mom to shell out for a Warham paint box. I would go with their Game Color, or Game Air if you don't want to manually thin paints/have an air brush already. Speaking of, if I wanted to just add stripes here and there to my wangs should I bother priming and repainting or just paint over what is there? I can't see myself repainting entire squadrons but I don't know how well putting paint over FFG's paint will go.
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Oct 1, 2015 18:42
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It's usually fine. I even paint wholly new paint jobs over the factory paint cuz I'm lazy. You should be wary though. Some of the models or areas have slicker surfaces that aren't good for paint traction.
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Oct 1, 2015 18:44
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grassy gnoll posted:Speaking of wave 7, I need to round out an amazon order. Thread, should I buy a second K-wing or a second Khiraxnsnzz? 2 kwings so you can run 4x ywings with tlt. Kiraxhz is kind of garbage.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:52
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Vanilla khzhzhz are actually cool and good, tourney here won with a 5 k list
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alg posted:Kiraxhz is kind of garbage. Hey, that's not fair on them - I find Kihraxz fighters to be quite decent, particularly if you give them lightning reflexes and glitterstim. (Also, am I the only person in the world who doesn't mind their name, or something?  )
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To me it just sounds like a polish name, see below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlOoSsfU6cM
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Are there any good and competetive ways to incorporate Dash and x-wings?
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Dash and X-wings together? Probably not. One or the other? XXX for life, motherfucker. 
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A kitted-out Dash is going to leave you room for 2 red squadron pilots, and probably no extra toys for them to have. Or you could take 2 green squadron pilots with the chardaan refit, autothrusters, and whatever EPTs you can squeeze in e: YT-2400 (Dash Rendar) Wired Outrider title HLC Nien Numb Green squadron A-Wing x2: Test pilot VI PtL Autothrusters Chardaan refit Comes out to 100 exactly. Drop Nien, wired, or VI if you want to try and steal initiative. Icon Of Sin fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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alg posted:2 kwings so you can run 4x ywings with tlt. BRRRRRRTT Squadron is the right and best thing. edit: make sure you have Most Wanted, so you can give them all BTL-A4.
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Major Isoor posted:Hey, that's not fair on them - I find Kihraxz fighters to be quite decent, particularly if you give them lightning reflexes and glitterstim. (Also, am I the only person in the world who doesn't mind their name, or something? They're pretty good naked- their best aspect is the dial by far. Survivability-wise, they're very close to Z-95s.
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Madurai posted:BRRRRRRTT Squadron is the right and best thing. I ran four Ion hogs at regionals and it was hilarious. The number of people who looked at my list incredulously, thinking "pfft Y-Wings? This'll be easy" before being baited into a joust and thoroughly wrecked made me very happy.
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Endman posted:I ran four Ion hogs at regionals and it was hilarious. I did very well with a super-Kath and two ion hogs- it's a fun list to run.
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I've got a Summer Kit tournament tomorrow and I'm thinking of taking this: Miranda Doni (29) Twin Laser Turret (6) Extra Munitions (2) Advanced Homing Missiles (3) Chewbacca (4) Seismic Charges (2) Ion Bombs (2) Advanced SLAM (2) Corran Horn (35) Push the Limit (3) Fire-Control System (2) Flechette Torpedoes (2) R2-D2 (4) Engine Upgrade (4) Total: 100 Not a serious/top-tier/whatever list by any means, but I'd like to try my luck with ordinance, and Space Jesus is always a good pick as far as I'm concerned.
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Finally won a game with someone besides my friend. 100 points Dash Rendar [Push the Limit, Heavy Laser Cannon, Kyle Katarn, Outrider, Engine Upgrade] (58) Miranda Doni [Twin Laser Turret, Recon Specialist, Shield Upgrade] (42) Granted I faced a list of 4 M3-As, 2 with Manglers and 2 with HLC. He got Dash down to 1 hull left but I managed to arc dodge and get out of range fast enough that he couldn't get the last hull. He basically ignored Miranda after we had a bit of a tangle up in the middle and that was his major downfall. Miranda tears 3 HP ships up with ease.
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Endman posted:I ran four Ion hogs at regionals and it was hilarious. 4 Ion Y-wings are scary.
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Icon Of Sin posted:YT-2400 (Dash Rendar) I am sorry, but how does this work exactly? I assume you are using debris fields to activate Wired? So this means in order to remain effective you would have to hit one every turn. Seems a bit inefficient as without debris you have no way of generating stress other than a K-turn. And even if you get the stress and want to keep it, you can't go straight or you clear with Nien, or if you turn, you lose the barrel roll action which is vital on Dash. As has already been noted, the classic 58-Dash (PTL, HLC, Title, Kyle, Engine) leaves you just enough to run 2 rookies. Problem being rookies aren't all that good right now. I think I would rather try running the new hotness X-Wings with a Mangler Dash. Something like: 2x Blue Novice w/ Autothrusters Dash w/ VI, Mangler, Title - That leaves you with 2 points free. Go for Merc Co-Pilot, IA or Nien.
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Panzeh posted:I did very well with a super-Kath and two ion hogs- it's a fun list to run. This or with 4 Binayre Pirates (Kath and Her Gang of Crooks) is my favourite list.
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BattleMaster posted:This or with 4 Binayre Pirates (Kath and Her Gang of Crooks) is my favourite list. The 4Z variant definitely gives you some good blocking power to protect her sides, can't argue with that one. I do love miniswarms.
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Oct 2, 2015 11:34
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I'm not advanced enough for blocking I just use them to shoot their lasers pew pew
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BattleMaster posted:I'm not advanced enough for blocking I just use them to shoot their lasers pew pew This is my tactic, soon to be infinitely improved by the starwars soundboard app. I picked up a Kihraxz the other day because I had forgotten I had ordered it. I was thinking about taking him as just a Black Sun Ace with Predator. Talonbane Cobra looks like he'd be quite shooty if he got into range 1 but he gets expensive quickly.
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BattleMaster posted:I'm not advanced enough for blocking I just use them to shoot their lasers pew pew Blocking is the least advanced thing ever, it's just flying your low PS ships into the enemy's path in the hopes of causing them to bump. 
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BattleMaster posted:I'm not advanced enough for blocking I just use them to shoot their lasers pew pew Also a good choice- I use 5 Zs as an escort for my Bosskinator and they're a big help against the easy-to-hit stuff because Bossk+Gunner+Tac is a setup geared toward gashing hard-to-hit things like interceptors. My older K4+HLC+Greedo is probably a better choice against things like decimators. Mixing the bosskinator with the Zs has been good to me so far. My only loss with this setup has been to a 104 point list from a guy who was playing some other missiles and probably quickly subbed in assault missiles when he saw what I got out. This person also took great pains to tell me about how casual he was. People telling me how casual they are all game is a huge red flag. Oh well, i've played him in the first round of every tournament we're both in and I beat his rear end every time, causing much salt.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:Blocking is the least advanced thing ever, it's just flying your low PS ships into the enemy's path in the hopes of causing them to bump. It involves a lot more precision and prediction than just flying the Zs in a line to cover a wide area
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