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Dubstep Jesus
Jun 27, 2012

by exmarx
When I was getting my feet wet in Traktor I used a Korg nanoKONTROL2 which is just a $60 midi mixer

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/nanoKON2bk

There's a couple traktor maps for it, it was sufficient for me to record a few full mixes with sync enabled, so it's probably sufficient for your purposes.

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Alfajor
Jun 10, 2005

The delicious snack cake.
I'm baffled. How does Serato promote this as "a supreme performance" ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR7gQGhEJqg

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

Alfajor posted:

I'm baffled. How does Serato promote this as "a supreme performance" ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR7gQGhEJqg

Compare and contrast.

edit: Also I'm reminded that awful Zac Efron "I do my special move on some CDJs" movie had the third worst opening in Hollywood history.

qirex fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Sep 1, 2015

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Alfajor posted:

I'm baffled. How does Serato promote this as "a supreme performance" ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR7gQGhEJqg

...because with Serato the DDJ SZ simply isn't as rapidfire with samples as an MPC is so this is pretty much all you can do with it despite what they're pushing it as. :v:

The video is still hilarious and I feel bad for Sinden on this one as he's a pretty decent producer but not really a 'live' performer like a lot of DJs are.

Firaga
Jan 4, 2005
WHAT YOU SAY

Watching these videos in contrast I literally burst out laughing after putting on the Sinden one then fast forwarding halfway through the Mix Master Mike.

To be honest I'm not on board with this sampling/stems/beat juggling business and I think these companies should stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Lots of people have issues playing two tracks together now I'm gonna hear random out of place sounds and efx. If you wanna do a "live" setup there are lots of ways to do that already, but now people are going to think they aren't poo poo unless they are slamming stems together.
But that's a whole other conversation I guess and I'm sure lots of people out there will disagree, although even in the professional world, that Sinden vs Mix Master Mike video is a pretty good example why this format sucks.

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

Stems are interesting to me but they seem like a first step. It seems like you'd actually want multiple stems per part, like you could have both the clean and dirty version of the vocals or multiple basslines. It just feels like they developed the limitations of the format entirely around the limitations of their controllers [which is reasonable I guess since they implemented it]. That said it makes a lot more sense than remix decks which I never really understood.

b0red
Apr 3, 2013

Stems imo just continues to push the image of a DJ as a performer/something to watch and allows us regular people to get in on the live DJ mashup hype train. I guess I'm a purest in that I think the DJ should be tucked away in some corner away from everyone and mixing records instead of trying to live drum over some pop stems while everyone stands around and watches. Whatever gets you booked I guess.

Also I went to a BBQ of DJs/promoters in my area and it was a total blast. Had a PA system setup and everyone was nerding out over track IDs, dubplates, mixing styles, etc.

b0red fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Sep 2, 2015

HiipFire
Sep 1, 2013

JENNY DEATH LIVES
as a scratchnerd I like that

Alfajor
Jun 10, 2005

The delicious snack cake.
Serato Video on sale for $75, I took the plunge. If all I want to do are chill visuals, and not VJing, any poo poo projector will do, right?

Noctone
Oct 25, 2005

XO til we overdose..
Getting back into mixing after being on hiatus for a few years, and had an S8 come in the mail yesterday. Played with it for a couple of hours last night and goddamn I'd forgotten how much I love mixing. It's a really nice piece of hardware and I can't wait to dig into the capabilities. I used to use Torq back when that was still a thing and Christ, using Traktor + S8 now is like going from an old Nokia brick phone to an iPhone. The game done changed.

Really glad I decided to get some time code vinyls though (they come in the mail today), mixing without turntables just felt alien and wrong.

revmoo
May 25, 2006

#basta
So traktor has this issue ive found where i go to scratch a beat and it restarts the entire track back to the beginning. It did this with my old audio6 and pc from time to time but its still happening with my new setup. Basically ill have a track playing and go to scratch a beat, and the entire track jumps right to beginning, completely ruining my set.This happens in relative mode which is the only mode i use.

Again, this is an entirely brand new traktor setup, mixer, and PC and im getting the same problem. Anyone found a fix for this issue?

bad day
Mar 26, 2012

by VideoGames

Alfajor posted:

Serato Video on sale for $75, I took the plunge. If all I want to do are chill visuals, and not VJing, any poo poo projector will do, right?

Yeah, especially if you back-project onto a sheet (if you can). I've seen this and it looks cheap but cool when paired with the right video.

vanilla slimfast
Dec 6, 2006

If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Angry Dome



revmoo posted:

So traktor has this issue ive found where i go to scratch a beat and it restarts the entire track back to the beginning. It did this with my old audio6 and pc from time to time but its still happening with my new setup. Basically ill have a track playing and go to scratch a beat, and the entire track jumps right to beginning, completely ruining my set.This happens in relative mode which is the only mode i use.

Again, this is an entirely brand new traktor setup, mixer, and PC and im getting the same problem. Anyone found a fix for this issue?

Do you have the "switch to absolute mode at lead-in" option selected? Only thing I can think of

Mario Incandenza
Aug 24, 2000

Tell me, small fry, have you ever heard of the golden Triumph Forks?

qirex posted:

Stems are interesting to me but they seem like a first step. It seems like you'd actually want multiple stems per part, like you could have both the clean and dirty version of the vocals or multiple basslines. It just feels like they developed the limitations of the format entirely around the limitations of their controllers [which is reasonable I guess since they implemented it]. That said it makes a lot more sense than remix decks which I never really understood.
Remix sets, when paired with a controller that has a grid and 4 faders (like NI's F1 or AH's K2), are actually more useful than stems, IMO. A track in Stems format is nothing more than 4 concurrent channels, but a remix set, by virtue of the fact it's built out of loops and one-shots, enables you to do exactly what you mentioned re: multiple basslines, different vocals, etc. Still possible to make a remix set out of a track in Stems format, though, by recording each individual stem channel with Traktor's internal sampler, and then chopping it up into loops.

Hopefully Stems get more support than Remix sets did.

revmoo
May 25, 2006

#basta

vanilla slimfast posted:

Do you have the "switch to absolute mode at lead-in" option selected? Only thing I can think of

Nope but skip to start in lead in was on. Hopefully that fixes it but if not im switching to serato.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


So after 18 months or so of playing with Serato and still preferring the way Rekordbox works, Pioneer are releasing Rekordbox DJ which is compatible with a bunch of existing controllers including my SX. Noice. Hope it's actually decent!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrub2gajCu8

TheWevel
Apr 14, 2002
Send Help; Trapped in Stupid Factory
I'm pretty sure RekordBox 4 is a heavily customized version of Serato DJ.

geeves
Sep 16, 2004

88h88 posted:

So after 18 months or so of playing with Serato and still preferring the way Rekordbox works, Pioneer are releasing Rekordbox DJ which is compatible with a bunch of existing controllers including my SX. Noice. Hope it's actually decent!



Does rekordbox no longer delete half of your music? Or is that still a bug?

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Never had any issues with Rekordbox myself at all. It's Serato that's been shite for me... I'll give this a shot though.

TheWevel posted:

I'm pretty sure RekordBox 4 is a heavily customized version of Serato DJ.

As long as the analysis stuff is still Rekordbox I'm happy as that's one of the main issues I have with Serato, it's a bit dumb knowing where to put cue points, I went digital purely so I could avoid having to manually do poo poo like that.

Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Sep 26, 2015

keevo
Jun 16, 2011

:burger:WAKE UP:burger:
What issues have you been having?

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Nothing serious, the analysis side of things I find it tends to be a bit poo poo with. I run Rekordbox on the same laptop and fire music files through both it and Serato, Rekordbox generally gets cue points and beat grids spot on, it's a rarity that I need to manually adjust anything. Serato needs a lot more manual adjustment in terms of beat gridding which is a bit poo poo really.

If Serato had Rekordbox's analysis then I'd like it a lot more which is what I'm hoping Rekordbox DJ turns out to be.

mitztronic
Jun 17, 2005

mixcloud.com/mitztronic
I've seen a lot of stupid, ridiculous poo poo on beatport but this takes the cake:

https://pro.beatport.com/release/dna-spectrum-frequencies-part-5/1491753

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

mitztronic posted:

I've seen a lot of stupid, ridiculous poo poo on beatport but this takes the cake:

https://pro.beatport.com/release/dna-spectrum-frequencies-part-5/1491753

Wasn't there a performance record like this? I want to say DJ Radar or DJ Swamp or one of those experimental guys made it.

HiipFire
Sep 1, 2013

JENNY DEATH LIVES
yeah DJ Swamp made a record which was an entire octave of guitar tones

revmoo
May 25, 2006

#basta

mitztronic posted:

I've seen a lot of stupid, ridiculous poo poo on beatport but this takes the cake:

https://pro.beatport.com/release/dna-spectrum-frequencies-part-5/1491753

The content isn't that dumb but you're an idiot if you pay any amount of money for it.

vanilla slimfast
Dec 6, 2006

If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Angry Dome



HiipFire posted:

yeah DJ Swamp made a record which was an entire octave of guitar tones

Around the 5 minute mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KsQvPS1dWA

vanilla slimfast
Dec 6, 2006

If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Angry Dome



mitztronic posted:

I've seen a lot of stupid, ridiculous poo poo on beatport but this takes the cake:

Nah. My buddy who used to work there would come across some incredible poo poo and make joke charts as "Sebastian Sparkles"

http://classic.beatport.com/chart/sebastian-sparkles-novemburrrrr-heaters/230032
http://classic.beatport.com/charts/sebastian-sparkles-springtime-sprinkles/14633
http://classic.beatport.com/charts/sebastian-sparkles-summer-sexpolsion!/17090
http://classic.beatport.com/charts/sebastian-sparkles-omg-winter-is-coming/19446
http://classic.beatport.com/charts/sebastian-sparkles-omg-charts-omg!/29797
http://classic.beatport.com/charts/sebastian-sparkles-ho-ho-ho-xmas-2010/30967

b0red
Apr 3, 2013


lmao these are great. thanks for the links

Dubstep Jesus
Jun 27, 2012

by exmarx
Been playing with Rekordbox DJ a bit today and I am truly impressed at how faithfully it executes some of the aspects of a nexus setup, especially the ones that don't make sense on a laptop.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Dubstep Jesus posted:

Been playing with Rekordbox DJ a bit today and I am truly impressed at how faithfully it executes some of the aspects of a nexus setup, especially the ones that don't make sense on a laptop.

Oh nice, it's out. Care to say a bit more on the matter?

Dubstep Jesus
Jun 27, 2012

by exmarx

88h88 posted:

Oh nice, it's out. Care to say a bit more on the matter?

It's ok, kinda clunky and a bit unstable. I like that it allows me to remap my filter knob on my DDJ-SR, and being able to setup FX presets that I can trigger with the performance pads is pretty nice.

Memory loops work exactly like they do on CDJs, which kinda threw me off because I'm used to being able to select + activate saved loops ahead of time without jumping straight to them.

And as near as I can tell you can't do any track preparation while in performance mode, if you wanna setup a memory cue or saved loop you have to jump back into preparation mode...for reasons.

It really just feels tacked on at the moment, hopefully it'll improve over time.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Cool. I moved house and actually have an internet connection now so I downloaded Rekordbox 4 and will get to activating it and having a play. Funny you should mention the loops thing, I could never get that to work reliably on Serato for some reason, I had a load set up for ease of mixing and had it skip past them on many an occasion to the point where I just straight wouldn't trust it to actually work. Kinda took the fun out of it.

I look forward to breaking RBDJ.

mitztronic
Jun 17, 2005

mixcloud.com/mitztronic

Yes yes yes yes

e: http://classic.beatport.com/track/cmon-dj-original-mix/917887 :stare:

mitztronic fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Oct 7, 2015

vanilla slimfast
Dec 6, 2006

If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Angry Dome




SA DJs: c'mon DJ....bring it

bad day
Mar 26, 2012

by VideoGames
I recently broke my headphones and have been shopping for new ones. I really want the pink/white Beats Mixr but am not gonna blow $250 on something I'm likely to lose/break a few years from now.

Bought these excellent DJ headphones from Monoprice, upgraded with red earpieces. $30, not bad.

http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Product/Details/8323?mainCategoryId=108&categoryId=10823&subCategoryId=1082302&cpnCd=

Anyway as for sound quality I wouldn't do any mastering on them but they're great for dj use.

vanilla slimfast
Dec 6, 2006

If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Angry Dome



That reminds me. I can't remember if I posted about this previously but some friends and I resurrected something we did years and years ago, the "worst DJ mix" competition.

https://www.facebook.com/events/856211447750092/

We got five entries this year. They are real, and they are spectacular

Listen to the entries here: https://hearthis.at/worstmix/set/worst-mix-2015-competition/
Vote for your favorite here: http://www.poll-maker.com/poll436037xE3A44285-17

Dubstep Jesus
Jun 27, 2012

by exmarx

bad day posted:

I recently broke my headphones and have been shopping for new ones. I really want the pink/white Beats Mixr but am not gonna blow $250 on something I'm likely to lose/break a few years from now.

Bought these excellent DJ headphones from Monoprice, upgraded with red earpieces. $30, not bad.

http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Product/Details/8323?mainCategoryId=108&categoryId=10823&subCategoryId=1082302&cpnCd=

Anyway as for sound quality I wouldn't do any mastering on them but they're great for dj use.

Had these for a while, super solid for the price.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


vanilla slimfast posted:

That reminds me. I can't remember if I posted about this previously but some friends and I resurrected something we did years and years ago, the "worst DJ mix" competition.

https://www.facebook.com/events/856211447750092/

We got five entries this year. They are real, and they are spectacular

Listen to the entries here: https://hearthis.at/worstmix/set/worst-mix-2015-competition/
Vote for your favorite here: http://www.poll-maker.com/poll436037xE3A44285-17

Holy Jesus, I'm sat in tears at how obscenely awful these are. This takes loving talent.

mitztronic
Jun 17, 2005

mixcloud.com/mitztronic
Got to help set up and play a 3 hour set a renegade in golden gate park under a bridge in SF, full of fire spinners. It was pretty amazing, would do again*, A++.

mitztronic fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Oct 18, 2015

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Dessert Rose
May 17, 2004

awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...
Playing for fire spinners is the absolute best. :)

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