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Nevvy Z posted:What did he do that makes this good, exactly? I think the poster is saying that it's good he's being harassed by "right-wing extremists." I don't really disagree, he sounds like a bad and creepy motherfucker.
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Oct 1, 2015 05:07
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OwlFancier posted:Murder she wrote is a fairly mild example but have you seen the gossip magazines that people buy? When people coined the phrase "torture porn" I feel they misapplied it. OwlFancier posted:A lot of people definitely have a really perverse fascination with human suffering, which is completely fine so long as you consume it in a socially acceptable way.
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Oct 1, 2015 05:20
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Nevvy Z posted:What did he do that makes this good, exactly? He's just a guy who was brave/braindead enough to out himself as a segment of the population that is utterly reviled by the vast majority of Americans. Given the quality of his writing, I'd suspect more a limited capacity to understand the consequences than actual courage. Still, as this thread has so rightly pointed out, society's current approach to the taboo is fundamentally flawed. Whether pedophilia is a genetic or an acquired illness, the failure to distinguish between a person with the illness and an actual offender, as well as the bloodthirsty vitriol applied toward both, completely shuts off all avenues for therapeutic intervention. Without a constructive alternative, you shunt these sad sacks into the darkest nooks and crannies of the Internet, exposing them to discourse that exacerbates the illness and greatly increases their likelihood to create new victims. The power of the taboo is such that even challenging the lovely status quo raises eyebrows: "She doesn't want to lynch every single person who has disgusting thoughts about 9-year-olds?? I'll bet she's one of them.". Something needs to change, but, as someone stated up thread, who the gently caress is going to stick their head out when the social consequences are so high?
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Oct 1, 2015 05:31
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Pedophiles should have access to discrete therapy to help them not rape a kid, and possibly not lust after a kid as well if psychiatry gets that advanced, but this is a guy who literally recited kid-sex rhetoric and brushed it off in the article as "oh I just wanted to belong somewhere lol"
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Oct 1, 2015 13:31
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Gossip magazines with "torture porn"? What kind of gossip magazines are you talking about here? 
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Oct 1, 2015 13:39
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Cugel the Clever posted:The power of the taboo is such that even challenging the lovely status quo raises eyebrows: "She doesn't want to lynch every single person who has disgusting thoughts about 9-year-olds?? I'll bet she's one of them.". Something needs to change, but, as someone stated up thread, who the gently caress is going to stick their head out when the social consequences are so high? What's really nuts is that many people have the same reaction to some adult guy getting wood from seeing a teenager with fully developed secondary sexual characteristics as to someone who literally raped a toddler or something. This is so absurd on its face it pretty much has be a socially acceptable righteous indignation anger outlet.
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Oct 1, 2015 17:33
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So what is your opinion on "ephebophilia"
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Oct 1, 2015 19:02
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Trent posted:It seems like maybe humans are just wired to hate, and those that style themselves as progressive, nonracist feminists still need an outlet, so it's furries and juggalos and pedophiles and whatever because the groupthink still days that's OK.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:06
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Also has there been an outbreak in baseball mascots or clowns being sexually assaulted recently because I don't think those other two groups are really in the same caliber.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:07
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Gossip magazines with "torture porn"? What kind of gossip magazines are you talking about here?    Chat's pretty bad but it's not far off the normal. I mean I get the concept of catharsis in media but I can't help but feel as though this may not quite be sold with that in mind. I like the "90% Burns" pop out star like it's on special offer. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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Oct 1, 2015 19:07
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that magazine is incredibly loving creepy and i feel worse for knowing it exists
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Oct 1, 2015 19:13
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Part of my job involves working with them so I get to look at all the terrible gossip mags every week.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:14
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Control Volume posted:that magazine is incredibly loving creepy and i feel worse for knowing it exists While that's 100% true I really wanna know the story behind “headbutted by a ghost!“ now
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Oct 1, 2015 19:17
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Hey just as an aside if someone is using the justification of "Oh it's not as bad as lusting after a toddler" as a justification for lusting after a 15 year old girl that's an extremely unhealthy mindset to be in since its a denial of a pretty loving serious problem, and said person/persons should start going to a therapist immediately about it, anyways later.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:28
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Therapy doesn't fix sexuality
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Oct 1, 2015 19:44
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Black Baby Goku posted:Adults getting wood from teenagers is okay to you then? Some teenagers are also adults. Other teenagers are considered to be above the age of consent. So yes, in many circumstances adults getting wood from teenagers is actually perfectly ok.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:45
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Control Volume posted:So what is your opinion on "ephebophilia" Had to look that up. Sounds like a difference blown out of proportion by internet idiots and trolls.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:45
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Control Volume posted:this is a guy who literally recited kid-sex rhetoric and brushed it off in the article as "oh I just wanted to belong somewhere* lol"  NutritiousSnack posted:This is his actual post history
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Oct 1, 2015 19:48
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Nevvy Z posted:Some teenagers are also adults. Other teenagers are considered to be above the age of consent. So yes, in many circumstances adults getting wood from teenagers is actually perfectly ok. You are insane.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:54
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Nevvy Z posted:Some teenagers are also adults. Other teenagers are considered to be above the age of consent. So yes, in many circumstances adults getting wood from teenagers is actually perfectly ok. People get wood from shoes and goats and two dimensional images. None of these are things we could even potentially reproduce with. There is no value judgement which is appropriate. It just happens to be the case. Your body does not know or care in what year someone was born. It cares if they have pleasing characteristics. Anyone who says they couldn't possibly be physically aroused by anyone who is a teenager is either a liar or has a very specific and powerful fetish of their own. Edit: or an imbecile This is an entirely sperate issue from rape or any other type of assault. I wonder if this same argument happens in countries where the arbitrary age of consent is different, but with a different line in the sand for normal vs total sicko
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Oct 1, 2015 19:55
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Trent posted:People get wood from shoes and goats and two dimensional images. None of these are things we could even potentially reproduce with. There is no value judgement which is appropriate. It just happens to be the case. Your body does not know or care in what year someone was born. It cares if they have pleasing characteristics. Ah, the "other countries" defense.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:57
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People who defend pedophiles should be banned, just like we ban actual pedos.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:58
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Trent posted:I wonder if this same argument happens in countries where the arbitrary age of consent is different, but with a different line in the sand for normal vs total sicko Where do you live that the age of consent is high? I don't know many places where it's higher than 16.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:59
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unlimited shrimp posted:pedophilia isn't a choice, shitlord The difference between a gay man and the guy in the OP is that a man can consent to getting rammed up the rear end by another man but a child cannot consent to sex, hth that said, putting these people in heavy therapy is a better option than imprisoning them if they're not acting on it
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Oct 1, 2015 20:08
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OwlFancier posted:Where do you live that the age of consent is high? I don't know many places where it's higher than 16. Looks like a lot of Africa has 18 as their age of consent. Additionally, Bahrain seems to be 21. Also the U.S. is mostly 18.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:15
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PaleIrishGuy posted:Looks like a lot of Africa has 18 as their age of consent. Additionally, Bahrain seems to be 21. Also the U.S. is mostly 18. I thought the US was all over the place ranging from 21 to like 12 or something? Or did they change that?
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Oct 1, 2015 20:15
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Trent posted:Anyone who says they couldn't possibly be physically aroused by anyone who is a teenager is either a liar or has a very specific and powerful fetish of their own. Edit: or an imbecile Actually I'm pretty sure any arousal I may or may not theoretically feel according to you would end the second I realize they can't give proper consent, so I guess consent's my specific and extremely powerful fetish.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:21
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LORD OF BUTT posted:The difference between a gay man and the guy in the OP is that a man can consent to getting rammed up the rear end by another man but a child cannot consent to sex, hth You can't change someone's sexuality with therapy.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:22
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Black Baby Goku posted:You can't change someone's sexuality with therapy. There are very few reasons why you would ever need to change someone's sexuality.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:23
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The extreme refutation of that statement is chemical castration.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:23
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Control Volume posted:The extreme refutation of that statement is chemical castration. Chemical castration does not change your sexuality. It may decrease sexual desire to some extent but that's about it.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:25
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Not being sexually aroused by anything is a fairly big change in sexuality. e: but this is going to lead into a giant derail about whether libido should be considered a part of sexuality and then you get arguments about asexuals and all that bullshit so I'm going to reduce my statement to "I disagree that sexuality cannot be altered."
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Oct 1, 2015 20:25
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OwlFancier posted:There are very few reasons why you would ever need to change someone's sexuality. I can think of one big reason it would be useful. Can't you?
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Oct 1, 2015 20:26
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Control Volume posted:Not being sexually aroused by anything is a fairly big change in sexuality. It doesn't end the attraction. Just reduces it.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:27
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OwlFancier posted:I thought the US was all over the place ranging from 21 to like 12 or something? Or did they change that? Wikipedia posted:Each U.S. state (and the District of Columbia) has its own general age of consent. Currently state laws set the age of consent at 16, 17, or 18. The most common age is 16,[20] a common age of consent in most other Western countries. Less than 50% of the U.S. population resides in states which set the age of consent at 16; these states are usually smaller than states which set the ages of consent at 17 and 18 and therefore have lower populations. Whether Texas's age of consent is defined as 17 or 18, over 60% of the U.S. population resides in states which have ages of consent as 16 and/or 17.[6] It used to be all over the place (140 years ago, it seems 10-12 was common with Delaware being 7), but has been at least 16 in every state since 2001.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:27
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Control Volume posted:Not being sexually aroused by anything is a fairly big change in sexuality. Yes, it is. And if chemical castration did that you would have a point.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:28
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The Larch posted:Yes, it is. And if chemical castration did that you would have a point. He doesn't have a point.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:32
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Black Baby Goku posted:I can think of one big reason it would be useful. Can't you? It might be useful but it isn't necessary. Any more than changing people's sexuality is necessary to prevent rape in general? I don't think "rapeosexual" is a thing, or if it is it's probably not unique to paedophiles. Sexuality is an entitely amoral issue, it doesn't matter who or what you find attractive as long as you act on it appropriately, because thoughts aren't moral or immoral, only actions are. The problem is people committing rape which I'm pretty sure you can avoid doing. I've managed to avoid doing it, astonishingly, all my life. It's been pretty easy because I think it's wrong?
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"Crush the pedophiles, see them driven before you. What's that they're hiding in new and creative ways? The offense rate is increasing? Not my problem, I'm Black Baby Goku." *ascends to torture porn valhalla*
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