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Rhesus Pieces posted:Which org is that? Demos I assume, I cribbed it from Matt Bruening
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SedanChair posted:I could see there being laws about adhering to chamber spec size and proofing and whatnot but that's not really a major safety concern, and seems like it would just be another layer of incompetently administered bureaucracy. I don't know, about the only layer of bureaucracy gunbunnies approve of would probably be the one that tackles the engineering side of firearms since that's where people like Garand and Stoner hung out.
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Oct 2, 2015 20:14
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Nintendo Kid posted:I sure don't see his name there on that page except for one of the stories out of many. Also, people are talking about the things found now because they were just found today. You know, because it's new and hence in the news. It seems really important to you to never address people's main point, and instead try to harp on semantics.
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Lemming posted:It seems really important to you to never address people's main point, and instead try to harp on semantics. Never talked with fishmech before or something? That's kind of all he does.
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Raerlynn posted:It's not paranoia if they have demonstrated a desire to be out to get you. Are you a black male? If yes, then you have a point for you and your community. But that doesn't even make sense in this context because the vast majority of gun nuts are white males. If no, then please just shut up.
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Lemming posted:It seems really important to you to never address people's main point, and instead try to harp on semantics. Dude what is your main point? You shifted from 'don't say his name' to 'don't talk about the shooter at all'. How should this story be reported, walk us through Lemming News Network's handling of this.
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Lemming posted:It seems really important to you to never address people's main point, and instead try to harp on semantics. Your "main point" was that the shooter's name gets constantly talked up for weeks, which is a thing that doesn't happen. We addressed your false "main point" like hours ago.
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Job Truniht posted:Yeah, you can definitely go through rounds quick. I have no doubts about that, but nobody is going to start a mass shooting at a gun range. Yo. Three people who enjoy shotgun sports, and a Wal-Mart way the hell upstate. Hundred rounds a go, two or three gos on a weekend, we tend to have well over 5000 rounds hanging about just because we don't enjoy driving to North Fuckistan. Remember, ammo lasts FOREVER. We are still shooting ammo made for WWII. It's good and it's accurate. It's pretty much the perfect thing to buy in bulk, load into the car, and store in a dry place till you need it. And that's with three people who have guns that share the same ammo. When you factor in multiple types of guns, or even just different loads for different sports, you can, reasonably, have tens of thousands of rounds around. For people who don't understand why you'd have different loads - think of it as golf. They have different flight characteristics and do different things. Edit: Note: My personal shotgun is the worst possible design for home defense, by the way - the barrel is literally three feet long, and you reload it by cracking it open like it was on a door hinge - it's called a break action. It's designed to get maximum velocity and accuracy out of a shotgun load. Warcabbit fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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Fried Chicken posted:
I wonder if this has to has to do with how Trump seems to be the only candidate able to keep himself in the media during the long lull between the debates. It seems like the only time the other candidates are mentioned are when Jeb! or Carson say something really crazy/stupid.
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Pew research poll results Trump - 25 Carson 16 Rubio 8 Fiorina 8 Cruz 6 Bush 4 Huckabee 2 Paul 2 Go home Huck. Your large sons miss you
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Dude what is your main point? You shifted from 'don't say his name' to 'don't talk about the shooter at all'. How should this story be reported, walk us through Lemming News Network's handling of this. I think Charlie Brooker has explained this pretty well.
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Warcabbit posted:Yo. Three people who enjoy shotgun sports, and a Wal-Mart way the hell upstate. Hundred rounds a go, two or three gos on a weekend, we tend to have well over 5000 rounds hanging about just because we don't enjoy driving to North Fuckistan. hmm ya 5000 rounds of ammunition is definitely something i wanna store in my home until i 'need it' ammunition is like golf except it murders a school full of children 2-3 times a month 
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Warcabbit posted:For people who don't understand why you'd have different loads - think of it as golf. They have different flight characteristics and do different things. Think of it as golf? Well I do agree it's a hobby mostly practiced by insufferable decently off to wealthy white dudes and is a total waste. So sure, it's a lot like golf.
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The good thing about American gun owners is statistically, they're likely to use their exorbitant amount of mantoys to ventilate their own diseased skulls.
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Me prepping for an absolutely legendary weekend of shooting and banter with the lads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdjdpoqITXk
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MaxxBot posted:I wonder if this has to has to do with how Trump seems to be the only candidate able to keep himself in the media during the long lull between the debates. It seems like the only time the other candidates are mentioned are when Jeb! or Carson say something really crazy/stupid. Here's the interesting thing to me - it suggests that Trump has a ceiling of ~32%. Ok, that means he will not be the candidate, which keeps with what everyone expected. But it also suggests he also has a floor of ~24%. That would be what is upending all the models and why he hangs in there, usually the floor for a politician is much larger relatives wit their ceiling, so they either never get a head of steam or they fall off the map when they stumble. Trump breaks from that, and thus the baked in assumptions of the models. It is also what fucks the GOP, because a guy who commands a quarter of the base is a guy who gets to name terms and you don't talk back. 
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Nintendo Kid posted:Think of it as golf? Well I do agree it's a hobby mostly practiced by insufferable decently off to wealthy white dudes and is a total waste. So sure, it's a lot like golf. Eh, I'll accept that. Most of the people at the range are pretty blue collar, though - retired cops and the like.
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Warcabbit posted:Yo. Three people who enjoy shotgun sports, and a Wal-Mart way the hell upstate. Hundred rounds a go, two or three gos on a weekend, we tend to have well over 5000 rounds hanging about just because we don't enjoy driving to North Fuckistan. Yea, aside from the habit of guns killing people, think of it like golf, just a fun time with the bros. Anyway I got a trunk full of bullets that I probably will literally never go through but I needed them for a rainy day.
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I like to think of my old heroin habit as being a chocoholic. I mean I KNEW it was bad for me but it was just so good!
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I hate to post a link to Tucker Carlson's lovely site here but Marco Rubio is very good. Could he possibly be the best bet to win the nomination as of now? http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/01/here-is-marco-rubios-brilliant-response-to-black-lives-matter/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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I've always had a sneaking suspicion that people who hoard guns and knives and ammunition are mentally ill. Unfortunately, the ~45 mass shootings so far this year tend to give a bit of credence to my theory. "No, see, these 8000 rounds of armor piercing bullets were a good investment. I'm just storing them down here until I need them."
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mcmagic posted:I hate to post a link to Tucker Carlson's lovely site here but Marco Rubio is very good. Could he possibly be the best bet to win the nomination as of now? Marco is a dumb motherfucker in a lot of ways (he also said that women will sell their fetus to PP for money thanks to the baby harvesting they do, and so getting pregnant will be an income source somehow) but he's probably the least dumb motherfucker they have, and is young and very cute, so yea he's probably the smart one to rally around if they want a fight.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Marco is a dumb motherfucker in a lot of ways (he also said that women will sell their fetus to PP for money thanks to the baby harvesting they do, and so getting pregnant will be an income source somehow) but he's probably the least dumb motherfucker they have, and is young and very cute, so yea he's probably the smart one to rally around if they want a fight. The only thing that gives me pause is that he was a member of the Gang of Eight for comprehensive immigration reform and the base HATES that...
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mcmagic posted:The only thing that gives me pause is that he was a member of the Gang of Eight for comprehensive immigration reform and the base HATES that... Yea he's been on record occasionally saying not insane things, but if anything that's probably best for him because that'll make him the establishment golden boy rather than the teabagger one.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea, aside from the habit of guns killing people, think of it like golf, just a fun time with the bros. Anyway I got a trunk full of bullets that I probably will literally never go through but I needed them for a rainy day. Hey, you do your thing, I do mine. What's his name asked what kind of people had over 5000 rounds. I'm saying 'that's about a month's worth of ammo for a small family.' I understand it seems large, but it's a consumable, it goes down surprisingly quickly. I tried to explain why people would have that much or more, and why it tends to accumulate. (For example, if you go out to the range, traditionally, you buy an overpriced box of ammo from them to keep the place open. That can stack up, especially if it's not the brand/type you prefer.) I suppose over 10,000 rounds would be surprising, if it wasn't bought army surplus or if it wasn't .22. Army surplus is like the original Costco for 'oh yeah, here, have insane amounts of this thing you want.' Warcabbit fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea he's been on record occasionally saying not insane things, but if anything that's probably best for him because that'll make him the establishment golden boy rather than the teabagger one. Right but that isn't enough to win the nomination. Remember that batshit insane candidates Trump+Carson+Fiorina are over 55%
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mcmagic posted:I hate to post a link to Tucker Carlson's lovely site here but Marco Rubio is very good. Could he possibly be the best bet to win the nomination as of now? I dunno, on the other hand you have this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag8RgEVBsJ0 Which pretty much solidifies him as Huckabee 2.0 in a lot of ways. Edit: Beaten like 5 posts up 
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mcmagic posted:Right but that isn't enough to win the nomination. Remember that batshit insane candidates Donald "Our planet is freezing" Trump+Carson+Fiorina are over 55% So were guys like Cain and Bachmann in some places. The establishment has the money, the establishment picks the nominee, if they can be shown a promising, less insane, option in a cute young Cuban dude they'll probably rally for him and it won't matter of Trump has idiots on his side.
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Tatsuta Age posted:I dunno, on the other hand you have this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag8RgEVBsJ0 LMAO this is insane. This plus his not believing in abortion being legal to save the mother's life are going to make for some awesome general election ads. Tatum Girlparts posted:So were guys like Cain and Bachmann in some places. The establishment has the money, the establishment picks the nominee, if they can be shown a promising, less insane, option in a cute young Cuban dude they'll probably rally for him and it won't matter of Trump has idiots on his side. If this is true it will be Jeb!
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Warcabbit posted:I'm saying 'that's about a month's worth of ammo for a small family.' lmbo the USA is doomed, we are doomed.
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Also yea I've lived in the south my whole life, have many friends who own guns, have been shooting with them, have seen them take their family shooting, all that gun culture stuff. There is no way 5k is 'a month for a small family'
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Information about news events shouldn't be hidden just because it could potentially inspire copycats. There are tons of reasons why that's a bad idea. For one, it allows misinformation to take hold: understandably, if investigators don't have good information, they should wait to tell reporters. But waiting too long will allow trolls, manipulators, conspiracy theories, and rumors to take hold. In some cases, this can make a situation way worse: remember how some police departments involved in shootings last year didn't release videos of the incidents until later? That made residents really mad, since they were being kept in the dark about events in their own community. People have a right to know about newsworthy events. Also, I think the idea that "attention" is the main motive to mass killings is overblown. It seems secondary to asserting power that they feel they don't have. They choose defenseless targets for this very reason. They get to live out their power fantasies, and the fact that they'll get attention is just another element of that power. There are a lot of ways to get attention that don't involve massacring huge numbers of people. The power of the act itself is still the main motivating factor.
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Fried Chicken posted:Pew research poll results HA! Jeb polling at 4% that's fantastic. Fried Chicken posted:So Jeb just got asked about mass shootings at an event in Greenville, South Carolina. His response?  Well there goes his 4%. Iron Twinkie fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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I dunno, a family of four doomsday preppers may have each member shoot three to four
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So Jeb just got asked about mass shootings at an event in Greenville, South Carolina. His response? "Stuff happens" I mean holy poo poo. How is he this loving bad. You don't want to give a policy solution you trot out some empty bromides about thoughts and prayers, say something about we need to work towards a world where love conquers hate, change the subject. You don't fumble through an answer where you use the words "stuff happens" to write off a mass shooting event
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Also yea I've lived in the south my whole life, have many friends who own guns, have been shooting with them, have seen them take their family shooting, all that gun culture stuff. There is no way 5k is 'a month for a small family' Trap shooting. Hundred rounds a go. Two rounds each. (200) Two days in a weekend (400). Three family members (1200). Four weeks in a month. (4800). I hope I've been informative, because I really wouldn't mind dropping the topic.
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