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H.P. Hovercraft posted:totally can't tell that the military removed your inherent resistance to killing another human it's totally hosed up that the military trains for an ability to dehumanize and face to bloodshed i was talking about language once with a military dude who went through an arabic immersion program. the example sentences he was using were all "to kill: i kill, you kill, they kill..." and poo poo like that i'm like, gently caress, not everything has to be themed around state-sanctioned murder
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eschaton posted:why would you pay cash when sub-inflation financing is available? that like giving up free money. lol as if money matters to me, I'm rich biotch still can't afford a home in the bay area
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duTrieux. posted:it's totally hosed up that the military trains for an ability to dehumanize and face to bloodshed my fav is that there's absolutely no limits on vets going on into law enforcement positions
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:loll if you think you think drug companies sell drugs cheaper in the third world because they're nice? lol
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Optimus_Rhyme posted:lol as if money matters to me, I'm rich biotch yeah but if you move anywhere else except new york you'll be all "oh poo poo a 3 bedroom for 400k?" *digs around in pocket*
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i must have spent idk 4 years working on systems specifically intended to allow banks to take the maximum legal amount of risk and sometimes i try to tell people it's a bad idea but i am paid well so.... anyway what I'm saying is coding is collaborating
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at the date posted:they were gonna do that anyway
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I know I did my part to ruin Austin
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the "founders" of peeple ("yelp for people") have been doing some serious facebook damage control it is apparently a full time job just to delete the hateful comments from their fb pages gee i wonder why people are so negative about libel-as-a-service 
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Peeple co-founder Julia Cordray told the BBC: "With any new concept there is naturally fear. "When the people found out that the Earth was round instead of flat and that we revolved around the Sun instead of the Sun revolving around us, naturally people were upset and confused and they pushed back with all that they had."
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Tech Bubble: naturally people were upset and confused alternately Tech Bubble: the Sun revolving around us
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:Peeple co-founder Julia Cordray told the BBC: "With any new concept there is naturally fear. I just want her to explain what millennium she even thinks those events happened
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:i must have spent idk 4 years working on systems specifically intended to allow banks to take the maximum legal amount of risk and sometimes i try to tell people it's a bad idea but i am paid well so.... executives of banks, arms manufacturers, ad companies etc are culpable the peons doing the work are doing it because it puts food on their tables. they're not rich enough to have a perfectly free choice in what they do with their skills in exchange for not starving to death. (before  gets brought up there is a qualitative moral difference between writing software for an investment bank and operating the machinery of industrial scale genocide)
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maybe up to a certain level. it's hard to sympathize with someone who opted to make 200k for a evil corporation instead of 70k for a good wholesome company. what i'm saying is kill them all
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eschaton posted:is there a reason people with Hep C haven't responded to this situation by going vigilante on the insurers and pharma companies behind it? billionaire health industry execs can afford to spend a couple hundred thou on armed guards and security systems
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Mr Dog posted:(before edit: oops i misread "operating" as "enabling," so my first reply was bad there's a pretty significant gap between working for bad people, and, you know, actually doing bad stuff yourself Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Oct 3, 2015 |
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Main Paineframe posted:billionaire health industry execs can afford to spend a couple hundred thou on armed guards and security systems more accurately, they don't have to, there is an entire police state to handle that problem. you and i pay for the guards and security around billionaire executives  jeffrey winters argued the major difference between the united states and, say, feudal warlords was that american oligarchs abandon personal involvement in wealth defense and leave it to the state. in exchange for certain security guarantees, they allow the hoi polloi to impinge on their wealth in tiny ways
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:more accurately, they don't have to, there is an entire police state to handle that problem. you and i pay for the guards and security around billionaire executives oh hey perfect segue here's a good talk by a smart dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQuHSQXxsjM
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Necc0 posted:oh hey perfect segue can confirm the goodness of the talk and the smartness of the dude 
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MeruFM posted:maybe up to a certain level. if you have the choice and know that the company you're working for is evil; it's entirely possible to think you're on the other side of things; no one wants to think of themselves as the bad guy. there's a lot of ambiguity even in, say, working for Google or Apple - are they good or bad?
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i wonder if there's a way to re-couple national prosperity with average wages without there being oceans of blood. i hope so.
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MeruFM posted:maybe up to a certain level. i do not require your sympathy i do require money easy choice Broken Machine posted:if you have the choice and know that the company you're working for is evil; it's entirely possible to think you're on the other side of things; no one wants to think of themselves as the bad guy. there's a lot of ambiguity even in, say, working for Google or Apple - are they good or bad? i have worked for companies that were unambiguously, unquestionably evil. their checks cashed just the same. it's a job. you work for someone else. then you get paid. and that's all that matters
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if you own a company that does terrible things, that's a very different kettle of fish then you're just an rear end in a top hat
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do you think the choice was that explicit for the vw folks?
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MeruFM posted:maybe up to a certain level. "little eichmans"
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i do not require your sympathy tragedy of the commons must have caused this dystopian cyberpunk present
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duTrieux. posted:i wonder if there's a way to re-couple national prosperity with average wages without there being oceans of blood. i hope so. i don't think we can just fire-bomb most of the industrialized world to induce another twenty years of global rebuilding, any war on that scale would just go nuclear if you did it now also the western hemisphere would probably not escape completely unscathed again also there are a few billion more people in industrial economies now for that fleeting prosperity to be spread over
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rjmccall posted:i don't think we can just fire-bomb most of the industrialized world to induce another twenty years of global rebuilding, any war on that scale would just go nuclear if you did it now we can still fix everything, we just need to dump everything we can into fusion technology and battery technology
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it's a job. you work for someone else. then you get paid. and that's all that matters i dont agree with this
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Smythe posted:i dont agree with this I had basically no choice for my last job they were the only legit company to request a second interview in 5 months
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Optimus_Rhyme posted:lol as if money matters to me, I'm rich biotech
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no war but class war In her book A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous Fourteenth Century, Barbara Tuchman writes about a peasant revolt in 1358 that began in the village of St. Leu and spread throughout the Oise Valley. At one estate, the serfs sacked the manor house, killed the knight, and roasted him on a spit in front of his wife and kids. Then, after ten or twelve peasants violated the lady, with the children still watching, they forced her to eat the roasted flesh of her dead husband and then killed her. bankers u are next
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:no war but class war Great loving book. You should read it to find out what happened to the peasants and all their families and their homes and their farms right afterward. And the peasants in all the surrounding villages.
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at the date posted:Great loving book. You should read it to find out what happened to the peasants and all their families and their homes and their farms right afterward. And the peasants in all the surrounding villages. wikipedia has it covered too it makes the idf look restrained
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hobbesmaster posted:wikipedia has it covered too oh my
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hobbesmaster posted:wikipedia has it covered too "To this very day the word 'Jacquerie' does not generally give rise to any other idea than that of a bloodthirsty, iniquitous, groundless revolt of a mass of savages. Whenever, on the Continent, any agitation takes place, however slight and legitimate it may be, among the humbler classes, innumerable voices, in higher, privileged, wealthy classes, proclaim that society is threatened with a Jacquerie". lol iirc it was literally in response to the nobles allowing the hoi polloi to starve en masse (while not hiding that they were well fed themselves ofc)
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the ruling classes have always acted with disproportionate force to anything that challenges them, that's kinda history.txt
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hobbesmaster posted:wikipedia has it covered too this is why we just have to kill the rich all at once
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BBJoey posted:this is why we just have to kill the rich all at once just let nature do it like in 2012 russian oligarch too slow to make lifeboat, such is life
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