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D C posted:How are you guys comparing the good interior of an old car that often doesnt stand up as much as it should to wear, to the interior of a brand new car from a historically lovely car company that hasnt been around long enough to see any sort of long term wear? Because I was horrified to find that if you add modern BMW interiors in they slot below them both
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El Scotch posted:GM's engineers have been wizards the last few years with the Alpha platform and the new Corvette. So much of Cadillac's brilliant chassis potential has been under-served by their drive trains and interiors though. GM engineers have always been wizards, but they are wizards who sold their souls to Wheeee fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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CornHolio posted:I quite like the busy interior of the current Optima. Had one as a rental and like if much more than most everything in its segment in terms of layout and ergonomics. Materials are kind of sub-par but unless you're used to driving Mercedes and BMWs, it's not bad at all. My 2012 Optima SX interior is way nicer than anything else I've had, but I don't buy luxury cars. For a sub-30k car I'm pretty pleased with it but I'm also a stickler about people not putting their feet and poo poo on my dashboard so maybe mine gets less wear than most? The only thing I hate about the interior is the pebbly texture on the dash because it more obviously reflects on the windshield when the sun is out as opposed to a flat texture-less dash.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:17
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IOwnCalculus posted:They do both, though it's an either/or (and I don't think it's nearly as common as museum delivery). When my dad bought his C6 Z51, we flew to Bowling Green and followed it around the plant. For people who had a shitload of extra money laying around, they also offered this pretty cool option: For $5000, Chevy Will Let You Assemble Your Corvette Z06’s Engine Yourself
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Oct 1, 2015 21:36
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Franco Caution posted:For people who had a shitload of extra money laying around, they also offered this pretty cool option: I'd splurge an extra $1-2k for this, but $5k is silly.
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Oct 1, 2015 22:17
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corn in the fridge posted:Ive never really understood why they've never tried to sell the Corvette in the UK. I see the odd grey import now and again. There's quite a following for American cars here (there's a shop nearby that specialises in importing Mustangs) so I think it would do well here?? they do sell them, they just don't sell well, mainly because of the price. They go for Porsche Cayman GT4 money new, and an extra £10k will get you in a 911, so that's what people compare them with. And, like it or not, regardless of who beat who at the Nurburgring, and which has got the nicer interior, in the UK the kind of people who can afford to drop minimum £60k on a car want a German badge on the front, period. Look at it like this. You spend £60k on a Corvette, only to have your mates endlessly piss-take and browbeat you about "ox cart suspension" and "does it go around corners?" and "how's your sister in bed?", instead of congratulating you on being a man of class and distinction for buying German. You can see why people choose the safe option.
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Oct 1, 2015 22:25
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Linedance posted:... "does it go around corners?" ...You can see why people choose the safe option. All that you wrote may be true about why they don't sell well in the UK, but anyone who thinks a newer Corvette can't go around corners is a blithering idiot.
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Oct 1, 2015 22:28
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The Locator posted:All that you wrote may be true about why they don't sell well in the UK, but anyone who thinks a newer Corvette can't go around corners is a blithering idiot. Agreed. You're still going to hear about it though.
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Oct 1, 2015 22:34
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Clarkson was a big fan of the C7, but I think he gave the usual "it's brilliant but you could never own it is the UK because -" bits. 
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Oct 1, 2015 22:39
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El Scotch posted:Clarkson was a big fan of the C7, but I think he gave the usual "it's brilliant but you could never own it is the UK because -" bits. I'm pretty sure Clarkson has done that with 99% of American cars 
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Do they make them in RHD cuz that would be another important factor if they don't i suppose.
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El Scotch posted:Clarkson was a big fan of the C7, but I think he gave the usual "it's brilliant but you could never own it is the UK because -" bits. Clarkson is a gimmick entertainer not an actual journalist
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Oct 1, 2015 22:43
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Mange Mite posted:Clarkson is awesome Yeah but this is the more important fact
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https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2hvphe_top-gear-corvette-tested-by-hammond_auto I'm at work so I can't re-watch this video, but I remember Clarkson not having really anything really negative to say about the C7. The lack of a RHD would be a problem I suspect.
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Wheeee posted:GM engineers have always been wizards, but they are wizards who sold their souls to Petition name change for forum user 14 Inch Dick to 14 Inch Pianist.
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Top Hats Monthly posted:I'm pretty sure Clarkson has done that with 99% of American cars And then the one he didn't he bought, then proceeded to bitch about how impractical it was. That's right, Clarkson is the kind of knob that bitches about the practicality of a Ford GT.
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MikeyTsi posted:And then the one he didn't he bought, then proceeded to bitch about how impractical it was. ...because the insurance company required a third party alarm system, which kept insisting it was stolen and shutting the car down.
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Linedance posted:they do sell them, they just don't sell well, mainly because of the price. They go for Porsche Cayman GT4 money new, and an extra £10k will get you in a 911, so that's what people compare them with. And, like it or not, regardless of who beat who at the Nurburgring, and which has got the nicer interior, in the UK the kind of people who can afford to drop minimum £60k on a car want a German badge on the front, period. It's worth pointing out that the Germans were bombing the grandparents of the pillocks who parrot the ox-cart suspension bit not too long ago and we helped stop the Huns and this is the thanks we get.
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HotCanadianChick posted:It's worth pointing out that the Germans were bombing the grandparents of the pillocks who parrot the ox-cart suspension bit not too long ago and we helped stop the Huns and this is the thanks we get. Yea but Uncle Joe would have put a stop to their shenanigans either way, so why don't you go eat a Big Mac over it?
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Wheeee posted:Yea but Uncle Joe would have put a stop to their shenanigans either way, so why don't you go eat a Big Mac over it? Do you want Trabants? Because that's how you get Trabants.
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HotCanadianChick posted:Do you want Trabants? 
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Oct 2, 2015 04:26
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I dunno, Trabant owner's clubs are pretty AI...
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Jesus Poonloving Christ I wish we could get some actual manufacturer employees in here spreading truth and answering questions so that the speculators would shut the hell up.
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blk posted:Jesus Poonloving Christ I wish we could get some actual manufacturer employees in here spreading truth and answering questions so that the speculators would shut the hell up. Car manufacturers are known for their truthfulness lately 
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blk posted:Jesus Poonloving Christ I wish we could get some actual manufacturer employees in here spreading truth and answering questions so that the speculators would shut the hell up. I could tell you a lot about up coming Aston Martin models except for a little thing called NDA
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corn in the fridge posted:I could tell you a lot about up coming Aston Martin models except for a little thing called NDA They have 4 wheels, c/d?
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blk posted:Jesus Poonloving Christ I wish we could get some actual manufacturer employees in here spreading truth and answering questions so that the speculators would shut the hell up. So the thread can go back to bad opinions on interiors and option packages?
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MustardFacial posted:He's calling you dumb for having to look up a word that's in common usage. One of the problems has been GM's repeated reorgs in Europe. First they were just Vauxhall/Opel, then they tried to use the Chevy brand, then that failed and they reorged again. So there's that. Then there's the fact that the US will buy all the Corvettes they can churn out of Bowling Green so there's not so much pressure to expand, I think. I finally got a chance to drive the new GT350 (with the track package; we were promised the 350R too but that did not happen), although only very briefly (3 laps of Lime Rock then about 15 minutes on the road). Not really enough time to form an deep opinion, but I was really impressed. I prefer the C7s interior, and the driving position is a bit better. Pedals in the Corvette were easier for heel-toe, except with the rev match you don't even need to bother. Brakes on the GT350 were immense. And I think it sounds even better than the 'vette.
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I never used to give a drat about Mustangs but there is something about that new 350 that I cannot get over. The latest styling tweaks took the 'stang from "nice retro homage" to "that is a dang nice looking car" and when you compound that with the monster V8 and flat crank, I become ensorcelled.
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Zorak of Michigan posted:I never used to give a drat about Mustangs but there is something about that new 350 that I cannot get over. The latest styling tweaks took the 'stang from "nice retro homage" to "that is a dang nice looking car" and when you compound that with the monster V8 and flat crank, I become ensorcelled. I'll give the GT350 a pretty good look if I can't find a 996TT that I like.
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Zorak of Michigan posted:I never used to give a drat about Mustangs but there is something about that new 350 that I cannot get over. The latest styling tweaks took the 'stang from "nice retro homage" to "that is a dang nice looking car" and when you compound that with the monster V8 and flat crank, I become ensorcelled. Serious question: how many of you had to Google "ensorcelled" to find out what it meant?
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Coredump posted:Serious question: how many of you had to Google "ensorcelled" to find out what it meant? TraderStav, also of Michigan, did. I'm impressed by the vocabulary of my fellow Michigander.
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Coredump posted:Serious question: how many of you had to Google "ensorcelled" to find out what it meant?
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pretty clear by context what the dude meant and also pretty clear he's a mondo fruitcake
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:pretty clear by context what the dude meant and also pretty clear he's a mondo fruitcake Or a WoW nerd.
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I wish I could read. 
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iwentdoodie posted:...because the insurance company required a third party alarm system, which kept insisting it was stolen and shutting the car down. Nah, he was bitching about how his loving race car had bad gas mileage and a small gas tank.
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Zorak of Michigan posted:I never used to give a drat about Mustangs but there is something about that new 350 that I cannot get over. The latest styling tweaks took the 'stang from "nice retro homage" to "that is a dang nice looking car" and when you compound that with the monster V8 and flat crank, I become ensorcelled. I feel like the new mustang's styling went from modernized 60s mustang to fusion coupe.
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MikeyTsi posted:Nah, he was bitching about how his loving race car had bad gas mileage and a small gas tank. No, because he took one to France and it was Hammond and May giving him poo poo for the mileage and the amount of fuel stops he had to do. He wasn't bitching about it himself at all on that road trip. It was only later, while living with a car that broke down a lot (and he flat out says it's the stupid alarm, not the cars fault), that everything became annoying inc mileage. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Oct 3, 2015 |
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Zorak of Michigan posted:I never used to give a drat about Mustangs but there is something about that new 350 that I cannot get over. The latest styling tweaks took the 'stang from "nice retro homage" to "that is a dang nice looking car" and when you compound that with the monster V8 and flat crank, I become ensorcelled. The older versions of the 'new' Mustang look like poo poo, this is the first edition of it I actually like.
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