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staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe

xPanda posted:

Ah cool, that makes sense. What confused me is that frequently I would get a stash found message and there would be nothing in it.

As for the surrender mechanic, I didn't know that! Explains why some guys had their hands up before I shoot them. Also explains something odd I observed in Army Warehouses: someone was assaulting the big facility (I don't know who occupies it, I can't get close enough to identity them) and he got swarmed by the defenders. They eventually surrounded him and he got on his knees. They had him at gunpoint for a few seconds before executing him and returning to their posts. Was the AI interrogating another AI? Because that's awesome. I watched all this through binoculars from a safe distance. Very cool, loving this mod.

Also, any tips for where I can get a Svarog detector? I'm an ecologist so I don't want to appropriate one Zone-style like the above poster. Wouldn't be very fraternal.

Yantar, Dr Sugars sells svarog, with his strangely youthful voice.
Just come back from there myself.
I decided to visit Agroprom and waste the army barracks, when i had killed everyone, I stepped out on my first "ferry all the guns and sell them" sortie, and the heli killed me.
aha, heli, so I ninja'd around, avoiding the Hind, keeping things between it and I, when I got to the gate, I was wasted by the BTU or whatever Its called, the armoured personel carrier.
basically, the army barracks is locked down.
Eventually I had scraped together enough for a Svarog. then I went to army warehouse and I have too many weapons to carry.

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Missing Name
Jan 5, 2013


2 questions:

Is the helicopter broken and just doesn't allow for an engine sound?

Who else was disappointed that X8 is empty?

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Missing Name posted:

2 questions:

Is the helicopter broken and just doesn't allow for an engine sound?

Who else was disappointed that X8 is empty?

You turn it on in the options, oddly. Dunno why they made it that way, but thats how it is.

And me :(

frank.club
Jan 15, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Friendly squad AI is loving useless. I get constantly shot by them

rejutka
May 28, 2004

by zen death robot

frank.club posted:

Friendly squad AI is loving useless. I get constantly shot by them

Friendly squad AI? Jesus, why don't you just go training wheels? Dunno what you pick but I am a loner in a hostile environment, always. The most friendly I get is some poor bastards I walk into in range I sprint over and it's like two dudes left, one ARing and the other scrublording about with his sidearm.

Plinky motherfuckers better acknowledge my Strelok rear end.

:colbert:

Saint Sputnik
Apr 1, 2007

Tyrannosaurs in P-51 Volkswagens!

rejutka posted:


Plinky motherfuckers better acknowledge my Strelok rear end.

:colbert:

I named my guy Zhenia Bulgakov, once I finally figured out how to change the name.

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe

Saint Sputnik posted:

I named my guy Zhenia Bulgakov, once I finally figured out how to change the name.

How do you change the name?

I did like the "randomize" feature, its nice starting as a loner with an MP5 instead of bad language and some pistol that came with a packet of corn flakes.

Edit: Agroprom underground is Different, protip : stay closer to the walls.

staberind fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Oct 3, 2015

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

I feel like CoC would be much more enjoyable if the omniscient death helicopters didn't turn hostile to you the second a military member sees you, weren't omniscient, or just didn't exist at all. It's really frustrating in the Cordon where there are occasionally snipers positioned on the bridge who can spot you from really far away, at which point the helicopter beelines directly for your rear end to destroy all fun.

Robot Randy
Dec 31, 2011

by Lowtax
Get good at aiming underbarrel grenades and they stop being a hassle

Saint Sputnik
Apr 1, 2007

Tyrannosaurs in P-51 Volkswagens!

staberind posted:

How do you change the name?

I did like the "randomize" feature, its nice starting as a loner with an MP5 instead of bad language and some pistol that came with a packet of corn flakes.

Edit: Agroprom underground is Different, protip : stay closer to the walls.

The screen where you pick your faction on a new game, you can delete the default name in the upper left and type your own. Don't know if you can do it on a game in progress, there's a file you're supposed to be able to edit but my change there never took effect.

Robot Randy posted:

Get good at aiming underbarrel grenades and they stop being a hassle

I keep seeing missiles for sale and sometimes in boxes but sadly no launchers yet. The chopper was really cutting me up in that narrow-street town past the forest, full of heavily armed mercs. I had to turn back it was so bad. Was pretty satisfying taking those loving things out in one segment in Lost Alpha.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
Choppers used to follow you for the entire level but Alundaio added a few conditions in which they would forget about you. First one is sleeping somewhere safe, second is just hiding for a while, third is an emission will cause it to fly off, and there's probably a few more I can't remember.

Would people be interested in a sort of modders guide to COC? Mainly talking about the new tools modders can use compared to COP

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
Definitely ^^

I made a little custom mod for CoP years sho that removed the ability of the Svarog (i think - the best detector anyway) to show anomalies as it made them too trivial. It still revealed the rarest artefacts so you still wanted it. Probably going to remake it for CoC since iirc it was a trivial 30 second .xml edit. I'll share it here if anybody else is interested.

Minarchist
Mar 5, 2009

by WE B Bourgeois
I got the 80% durability vendor fix working, which owns. I just wish more artifacts popped up in the wild and not just in the shaded anomalous areas. Also I went to the Oasis and nothing was there :saddowns:

I did mange to find a compass chilling on a shelf in a mine tunnel on the north side of the Red Forest though!

Also needs way more enemy spawns. Once I clear an area I don't really have to worry about anything except the odd mutant or blundering into an anomaly.

Monolith.
Jan 28, 2011

To save the world from the expanding Zone.
CoC seems ok so far but definately gonna need some mods for this. Loading times are awesome, though.

your evil twin
Aug 23, 2010

"What we're dealing with...
is us! Those things look just like us!"

"Speak for yourself, I couldn't look that bad on a bet."

Ddraig posted:

As a minor aside, we have managed to get Stalkers to die in anomalies as they did in SOC.

Apparently not for much longer. I just saw this in the comments on Moddb...

"Alundaio 16hours 9mins ago says:

If anyone is experiencing poor AI detection make sure you disable "AI Die In Anomaly" as suggested by the FAQ, this feature will be removed in a patch."

Aw dammit, stalkers wondering into anomalies and getting torn to pieces of electrocuted is half the fun of the Zone!

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


What mods should I install with CoC to make it awesome? I have been out of the stalker loop for a long time so I don't know what's good these days.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house

Taffer posted:

What mods should I install with CoC to make it awesome? I have been out of the stalker loop for a long time so I don't know what's good these days.

Gonna big up my own mod:

https://mega.nz/#F!V4M3HYiK!ytP_5PQmAI2SYkOuCS2zCA

Basically a minor addon that adds in dynamic huds (you can switch them off), more guitar music, more graphics options and the latest fixes from the COC repo.

Saint Sputnik
Apr 1, 2007

Tyrannosaurs in P-51 Volkswagens!

Ddraig posted:

Choppers used to follow you for the entire level but Alundaio added a few conditions in which they would forget about you. First one is sleeping somewhere safe, second is just hiding for a while, third is an emission will cause it to fly off, and there's probably a few more I can't remember.

Would people be interested in a sort of modders guide to COC? Mainly talking about the new tools modders can use compared to COP

I'm curious about how easy texture editing is, if I wanted to introduce some variety in the outfits. Please tell me it's easier than modding games from other Russian devs, and I won't need some filetype converter for an obsolete version of Photoshop and a hex editor.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
Hex editor may be necessary depending on how complex you want to go. The SDK allows you to assign textures to objects without hex editing, though, if you wish.

As for actually editing textures, all you need is the Nvidia DDS tools. I'm using CS6 and it works fine.

your evil twin
Aug 23, 2010

"What we're dealing with...
is us! Those things look just like us!"

"Speak for yourself, I couldn't look that bad on a bet."
Any idea why they need to remove the "AI Die In Anomaly" feature in the next version? How is it messing up the NPC AI?

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


Ddraig posted:

Gonna big up my own mod:

https://mega.nz/#F!V4M3HYiK!ytP_5PQmAI2SYkOuCS2zCA

Basically a minor addon that adds in dynamic huds (you can switch them off), more guitar music, more graphics options and the latest fixes from the COC repo.

Thanks. Anything else? I saw people complaining about wonky weapon damage and empty areas.

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

Taffer posted:

Thanks. Anything else? I saw people complaining about wonky weapon damage and empty areas.

The only area that kind of sucks from what I've seen is Darkscape, everything else is just bad luck with A-Life. People complaining about weapon damage should use the OWR addon, which you can grab from CoC's moddb page.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Yes, OWR 100% fixes the weapon issue as well as makes them plenty accurate.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

your evil twin posted:

Any idea why they need to remove the "AI Die In Anomaly" feature in the next version? How is it messing up the NPC AI?

AI seem to just wander into anomalies willy nilly with no regard to their own safety. Then others go to loot them or aid them, and so on and so on.

Which is funny and all but I can see how it might mess with things.

Erwin the German
May 30, 2011

:3
So far I haven't seen the surrender mechanic for any guys -I've- shot, but I did manage to catch a bandit about to execute a lone Dutier who was on his knees. I capped the bandit and tossed the Dutier a medkit; he decided to come along with me and we shall have all sorts of adventures until he dies horribly :3:

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

MariusLecter posted:

AI seem to just wander into anomalies willy nilly with no regard to their own safety. Then others go to loot them or aid them, and so on and so on.

Which is funny and all but I can see how it might mess with things.

The cordon minefield is hilarious for this reason.

"Ok Private, today's patrol takes us... directly left outside the gate." and they just walk right into poo poo and die en masse.

your evil twin
Aug 23, 2010

"What we're dealing with...
is us! Those things look just like us!"

"Speak for yourself, I couldn't look that bad on a bet."

MariusLecter posted:

AI seem to just wander into anomalies willy nilly with no regard to their own safety. Then others go to loot them or aid them, and so on and so on.

Which is funny and all but I can see how it might mess with things.

There is a mod called "Stalkers are not blind mod (Anomaly evasion)", also incorporated into stuff like Zone Reclamation Project... and it has a thing where stalkers have a certain chance of noticing anomalies , and higher ranks of stalkers (veterans, masters etc) are less likely to wonder into them. Rather than making stalkers always avoid anomalies or be immune to them, would make more sense to use that logic. That way someone walking into an anomaly would be a rare occurrence, rather than you getting a line of victims blundering in.

http://z4.invisionfree.com/STALKERRE/index.php?s=85d6d9fbb6a4e9ca82150b754e967609&act=Attach&type=post&id=2561833

The default values mean it is extremely unlikely anyone will ever wonder into one, though, like 90% chance a novice will notice an anomaly. I actually tweaked it in the past so that inexperienced stalkers only had a 50% chance of noticing anomalies, but that's somewhere on my old computer. Might see if I can dig it out.

Dvsilverwing
Jan 17, 2009

Erwin the German posted:

So far I haven't seen the surrender mechanic for any guys -I've- shot, but I did manage to catch a bandit about to execute a lone Dutier who was on his knees. I capped the bandit and tossed the Dutier a medkit; he decided to come along with me and we shall have all sorts of adventures until he dies horribly :3:

I've had it quite a few times, mostly with guys I've shot with my pistol. My shotgun just obliterates them, so that's probably why.

frank.club
Jan 15, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dandywalken posted:

The cordon minefield is hilarious for this reason.

"Ok Private, today's patrol takes us... directly left outside the gate." and they just walk right into poo poo and die en masse.

I walked into that and got vaporized mid way through a reload. Actually scared me lol

thejacob
Feb 13, 2014
It's me, I am the loaner dragging a dead body loaded with 100kg of broken guns from the farm all the way back to Sids place.

Please send help.

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe

thejacob posted:

It's me, I am the loaner dragging a dead body loaded with 100kg of broken guns from the farm all the way back to Sids place.

Please send help.

Barman gives a much better deal on most stuff.

Ddraig posted:

Hex editor may be necessary depending on how complex you want to go. The SDK allows you to assign textures to objects without hex editing, though, if you wish.

As for actually editing textures, all you need is the Nvidia DDS tools. I'm using CS6 and it works fine.


Saint Sputnik posted:

I'm curious about how easy texture editing is, if I wanted to introduce some variety in the outfits. Please tell me it's easier than modding games from other Russian devs, and I won't need some filetype converter for an obsolete version of Photoshop and a hex editor.

Its very easy and fun, editing, anyway, but applying them, no Idea, awesome, SDK, I'll have to look at it. would love to make some quests. Oh, & Gimp has a .DDS plugin as well, for those who are too cheap for photoshop.
(or too lazy to pirate it)
although, Photoshop allows you to set up more of a process for batch editing, gimp can do the same with scripts, iirc, but meh.

I am kicking myself for not noticing nimble in the rookie village. Now I have my favorite "Storm".

I'd love to edit the stalker meshes a little, as all the active stalkers are semi identical, we need fat neckbeards in the zone.
Also grabbed absolute nature and structures from mod db, thanks for them, looking great and running very smooth.

staberind fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Oct 4, 2015

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
GIMP is the people's image editing software. :ussr:

Missing Name
Jan 5, 2013


Does anyone do upgrades for suppressors? I haven't seen it yet, so I can't rock a suppressed 1911 or AK...

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe
I have only seen nato or 9x18 suppressors so far.

rejutka
May 28, 2004

by zen death robot
Actually, is it possible to do a ballistic knife? Seems like it would have a lot of comedy value.

Erwin the German
May 30, 2011

:3
Anyone have plans to add more missions? All those empty laboratories are just begging for secret document fetch quests... or, y'know, something more original, I guess.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
Ecologists getting stuck following you in the airlock chambers :smithicide:

v1ld
Apr 16, 2012

your evil twin posted:

Any idea why they need to remove the "AI Die In Anomaly" feature in the next version? How is it messing up the NPC AI?

Alundaio says in that quote that it's messing up AI detection, so NPCs will behave like they haven't seen you across a short distance. The option messes up combat in general as currently implemented, so it's being removed.

Elth
Jul 28, 2011

Is that why hostile NPCs will sometimes refuse to acknowledge you or return fire?

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rejutka
May 28, 2004

by zen death robot

Erwin the German posted:

Anyone have plans to add more missions? All those empty laboratories are just begging for secret document fetch quests... or, y'know, something more original, I guess.

Well you could have a proto faction take one over and you can clear them out or do some mission to bolster them. Or a dude who co-exists peacefully with poltergeists and they gang up on you because you will not gently caress Off. A Monolith shrine. A secret merc base. A place that resembles that heavy hitter room in John Wick - you need to be This Badass to get in. A creature hunter faction with specialized weapons. Bill the S.T.A.L.K.E.R.'s anomaly/artifact collection. A military S.T.A.L.K.E.R. branch. Some other bunch of heavy hitters that think maybe Strelok and his gang are hogging the limelight. Rich dickheads with equipment and zero smarts. A fabled weaponsmith/armourer who gussies up your weapons or armour with artifacts (Could also custom electronics with artifacts, Iunno). A guy who shows movies from around the world made about the Zone. A religious zealot who hires people to drag corpses back to his so he can bury them properly. A non-zombied version of Monolith. Some crazy bastard who eats artifacts. Some crazy bastard who can adjust the Zone (spawn anomalies). A dude married to a burer. A pseudogiant who wants to escape the Zone and become the world's greatest Sumo wrestler. A bloodsucker eye-balling a career in porn. Bandits who are not fundamentally idiots. Some mad gently caress who thinks projectile gunpowder weapons are for pussies. Secretly Russian-funded ex-Spetnaz who line the pockets of oligarchs with their line in rare artifacts. Documentarians turned feral. The guy who makes the sausages. An artifact cook/breeder. An outpost of DeBeers (Or however you spell it) who use gravity anomalies to make cheap but desired Zone gems. A company trying to cachet up their energy drink/booze. Kanye West insists on making a music video beside the Wish Granter.












Not gonna lie, I'd love if any or all of these were implementable.

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