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RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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Chill la Chill posted:

Star Wars EU: What happened to the tits? :ohdear:

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Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Nude Bog Lurker posted:

Zahn got retroactively hosed by a lot of the poo poo written after his books came out, so it kind of comes off like the New Republic just forgot about their captured Super Star Destroyer and dozens of massive capital ships and basically get punked by Thrawn with, like, six Star Destroyers.

Now I only read the Thrawn trilogy once (when I was 11 or 12) but I think that was sort of the charm of it, that he was such a great strategic mind that he could pull a victory out of a situation where a regular commander really shouldn't have even tried in the first place.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





Why were there never any EU stories about yoda growing up? I remember reading some padawan story about obi wan and it was hilarious.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



SaltLick posted:

Why were there never any EU stories about yoda growing up? I remember reading some padawan story about obi wan and it was hilarious.
I think yoda's backstory was one of those things deemed off limits by Lucas.

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


SaltLick posted:

Why were there never any EU stories about yoda growing up? I remember reading some padawan story about obi wan and it was hilarious.

There's one where he has debauched crazy green sex with Yaddle while yelling poo poo like "A DIRTY BITCH YOU ARE! CUMMING I AM! REE HEEHEEHEE!"

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli

Xenomrph posted:

I think yoda's backstory was one of those things deemed off limits by Lucas.

Yep. IMO one of his few good decisions.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Xenomrph posted:

I think yoda's backstory was one of those things deemed off limits by Lucas.

Yeah, nothing about Yoda or his species, don't kill R2 or 3PO, and after Chewie's nephew, no Wookiee Jedi.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



TARDISman posted:

Yeah, nothing about Yoda or his species, don't kill R2 or 3PO, and after Chewie's nephew, no Wookiee Jedi.

That last one seems like a weird, specific edict. Did he ever say why?

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Xenomrph posted:

That last one seems like a weird, specific edict. Did he ever say why?

I don't really know the specifics, I just know that after the Jedi Academy trilogy he decided that there shouldn't be any more Wookiee Jedi. Guess he figured that eventually they'd have to be in the movies, and a Wookiee Jedi Mind Trick would be impossible to film.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

TARDISman posted:

I don't really know the specifics, I just know that after the Jedi Academy trilogy he decided that there shouldn't be any more Wookiee Jedi. Guess he figured that eventually they'd have to be in the movies, and a Wookiee Jedi Mind Trick would be impossible to film.

I picture George having a flashback to the Star Wars Holiday Special and then curling up into a ball, weeping.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


idk why people who love a great majority of the EU also don't like the holiday special. p weird

Liquid Dinosaur
Dec 16, 2011

by Smythe
Is Holiday Special canon in the new reckoning of things?

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

Liquid Dinosaur posted:

Is Holiday Special canon in the new reckoning of things?

It better be. If you're going to tell me that Bea Arthur never poured booze into someone's head-rear end, you might as well say that Bobba Fett never existed :colbert:

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
If Chewbacca 's dad didn't watch porn in front of his downs syndrome grandson I don't wanna live anymore

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


If a coked up Leia singing to an army of Wookiees wearing snuggies ain't canon, I'll blow my brains out.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


SirPhoebos posted:

I picture George having a flashback to the Star Wars Holiday Special and then curling up into a ball, weeping.

but he went on to make the prequels.

Ivor Biggun
Apr 30, 2003

A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula

Lipstick Apathy

Groovelord Neato posted:

but he went on to make the prequels. ewok movies

Vire
Nov 4, 2005

Like a Bosh
Those where direct to video so no one knew yet how terrible lucas really was.

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


SaltLick posted:

that story really is all you need to know about how awful the EU was

The action figures aren't actually EU, they're as canon as the movies. Lucas named a bunch of those himself, that's how we got Elan Sleazebaggo.

sleepy.eyes
Sep 14, 2007

Like a pig in a chute.
All this poo poo makes me really glad I skipped almost everything in the EU. My brother is big into Thrawn, and the one thing I remembered him pointing to as proof of his genius is some poo poo with asteroids. It was something like he cloaked a few and threw them at a shipyard, while giving them transponders. The whole idea was he just left out a couple numbers in the sequence so everyone was flipping out looking for the asteroids they missed while he did whatever the real plan was. Really? The best tactician in the universe is so good he does the whole sheep-with-numbers-painted-on prank?

sleepy.eyes fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Oct 2, 2015

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

SirPhoebos posted:

I picture George having a flashback to the Star Wars Holiday Special and then curling up into a ball, weeping.

Knowing George he would then say 'Man, that needed more Wookie bits'.

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

sleepy.eyes posted:

All this poo poo makes me really glad I slipped almost everything in the EU. My brother is big into Thrawn, and the one thing I remembered him pointing to as proof of his genius is some poo poo with asteroids. It was something like he cloaked a few and threw them at a shipyard, while giving them transponders. The whole idea was he just left out a couple numbers in the sequence so everyone was flipping out looking for the asteroids they missed while he did whatever the real plan was. Really? The best tactician in the universe is so good he does the whole sheep-with-numbers-painted-on prank?

senior day at the space admiral academy is notorious for its pranks

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
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sleepy.eyes posted:

All this poo poo makes me really glad I skipped almost everything in the EU. My brother is big into Thrawn, and the one thing I remembered him pointing to as proof of his genius is some poo poo with asteroids. It was something like he cloaked a few and threw them at a shipyard, while giving them transponders. The whole idea was he just left out a couple numbers in the sequence so everyone was flipping out looking for the asteroids they missed while he did whatever the real plan was. Really? The best tactician in the universe is so good he does the whole sheep-with-numbers-painted-on prank?

I sort of liked the simplicity of it and how the rebels would fall for it as, "The empire is a huge bureaucracy, they would totally label it". It's a much better "master plan" than one that relies on "We're building an even bigger super-star-destroyer".

sleepy.eyes
Sep 14, 2007

Like a pig in a chute.

Blistex posted:

I sort of liked the simplicity of it and how the rebels would fall for it as, "The empire is a huge bureaucracy, they would totally label it". It's a much better "master plan" than one that relies on "We're building an even bigger super-star-destroyer".

If brute force doesn't work, you just haven't used enough of it yet! Hadn't though of the bureaucracy thing, but it still seems kinda meh. To be fair though, it isn't like Star Wars battles or technology made any drat sense to me in the first place. I know it is nothing close to hard scifi and it was never meant to be, but come on. Still fun movies though.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

sleepy.eyes posted:

All this poo poo makes me really glad I skipped almost everything in the EU. My brother is big into Thrawn, and the one thing I remembered him pointing to as proof of his genius is some poo poo with asteroids. It was something like he cloaked a few and threw them at a shipyard, while giving them transponders. The whole idea was he just left out a couple numbers in the sequence so everyone was flipping out looking for the asteroids they missed while he did whatever the real plan was. Really? The best tactician in the universe is so good he does the whole sheep-with-numbers-painted-on prank?

You see the difficulty in writing someone who is supposed to be super smart is that you have be super smart yourself to make it at all convincing.

These are EU writers we're talking about here.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

I don't watch star wars rebels but how did the named clone troopers from clone wars survive and defect

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Uncle Wemus posted:

I don't watch star wars rebels but how did the named clone troopers from clone wars survive and defect

Well, Clone Wars has at least one flat-out deserter and one dude who deserted from amnesia.

So I don't think they kept real good track of them even before the Empire.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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making all stormtroopers clones of boba fetts dad is really hilarious in hindsight

lucas himself was an eu writer

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Fojar38 posted:

making all stormtroopers clones of boba fetts dad is really hilarious in hindsight

lucas himself was an eu writer

Not to ruin the narrative but the clones are canonically NOT the stormtroopers you see in the original trilogy.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Pook Good Mook posted:

Not to ruin the narrative but the clones are canonically NOT the stormtroopers you see in the original trilogy.

WHAT

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Xenomrph posted:

I think yoda's backstory was one of those things deemed off limits by Lucas.

I keep hoping for Yoda in his youth to look a lot different than his look in the films. I want to imagine him being played by Dwayne Johnson or Vin Diesel in green makeup and giant ears and speaking in plain English, with the explanation of why he's so small and his unusual speech when he gets to Episode 1 is because he's like really, really old.

Pook Good Mook posted:

Not to ruin the narrative but the clones are canonically NOT the stormtroopers you see in the original trilogy.

Yeah, after Palpatine becomes Emperor, the clones are no longer need as there's supposedly a galaxy-wide conscription or recruitment drive since they can provide more manpower from throughout the Galactic Empire than breeding clones on Kamino. The clone labs were shut down and the clones themselves either were killed in combat or died from their accelerated aging and replaced by humans that had comparable physical traits and conditioned under the same level of training.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Young Freud posted:

Yeah, after Palpatine becomes Emperor, the clones are no longer need as there's supposedly a galaxy-wide conscription or recruitment drive since they can provide more manpower from throughout the Galactic Empire than breeding clones on Kamino. The clone labs were shut down and the clones themselves either were killed in combat or died from their accelerated aging and replaced by humans that had comparable physical traits and conditioned under the same level of training.

so why have the clones at all then

why not skip the clones and go straight to recruiting people

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


Fojar38 posted:

so why have the clones at all then

why not skip the clones and go straight to recruiting people

Because the original movies mentioned the clone wars and Lucas wrote himself into a corner with that.

Ok the obvious thing would have been to make the Republic fight against clones. But again Lucas wrote the movies.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


everyone and their mother (if they liked star wars) thought the clone wars was a war against clones.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Yep. My friends and I theorized that's exactly what it was about back in elementary school. We thought they were making super soldier clones that had to be stopped and that if it was right to make people specifically bred for war. We felt smart for wondering this.

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Cthulu Carl posted:

Well, Clone Wars has at least one flat-out deserter and one dude who deserted from amnesia.

So I don't think they kept real good track of them even before the Empire.

And one of the dudes in Rebels is the amnesia deserter sooo... Also, a good chance Rex decided to listen to that one 501st Clone who found out about the plot of Sheev sometime between the end of the series and Episode III. No idea about Wulf, maybe he just said "gently caress THIS poo poo AND gently caress YOU PLO KOON YOU BREATH MASK WEARING SUBHUMAN!"

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

The Thrawn books mentioned "the Clone Masters" who ran the Clone wars, although it wasn't clear if the war was the republic against Clone Masters, or a few different factions of Clone Masters vying for power and messing up the galaxy in the crossfire. I always thought the latter seemed cooler.

When the prequels were in development I remember speculating in school that the big duel in episode 2 would be between Obi Wan and Clone Obi Wan.

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
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Lipstick Apathy
Really though why the gently caress were they NOT cloning Jedi? Ok because it was a sith plot but clone jedi makes way the gently caress more sense.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


quote:

When the prequels were in development I remember speculating in school that the big duel in episode 2 would be between Obi Wan and Clone Obi Wan.

Hahaha I remember doing this too! Friend said it was dumb, I was dumb, but Lucas made it even dumber lol

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beanieson
Sep 25, 2008

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I remember some guy in high school insisting that the prequels were going to reveal obiwan as a clone because "dude, obiwan = OB-One. He's just the first version of a bunch of Jedi clones :aaa:"

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