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Ayudo
Mar 30, 2006

Duro posted:

How much time is he going to miss? Should I dump him or stash him?

The injury has been clarified as a rib injury. Early indications are this is a short term, pain management issue. I wouldn't drop him until there's an indication he'll miss serious time.

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opposable thumbs.db
Jan 7, 2008
It's hard to say that it's wrong that my life revolves around my dog when she is cuter and more interesting than me
Pillbug
It looks like Joique Bell is out for Monday's game. It might be worth it to speculatively add Zenner in case the coaching staff still doesn't like Abdullah. Maybe only if you have someone on your bench that you feel comfortable dropping (like Taliaferro perhaps since the Ravens already played).

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Duro posted:

How much time is he going to miss? Should I dump him or stash him?

He's "day to day" because Smiff. No idea.

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug

opposable thumbs.db posted:

It looks like Joique Bell is out for Monday's game. It might be worth it to speculatively add Zenner in case the coaching staff still doesn't like Abdullah. Maybe only if you have someone on your bench that you feel comfortable dropping (like Taliaferro perhaps since the Ravens already played).

What site do you play on where you can drop someone who already played that week before the week is over

pubic works project
Jan 28, 2005

No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

Honore_De_Balzac posted:

It is also collusion.

It's only collusion if the other owner is in on it. Hard to prove. Sounds like this guy is either a Sith Lord or a Taco.

pubic works project
Jan 28, 2005

No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

Dren posted:

What site do you play on where you can drop someone who already played that week before the week is over

My work yahoo league is set up like that. No waivers, short bench. I hate it.

opposable thumbs.db
Jan 7, 2008
It's hard to say that it's wrong that my life revolves around my dog when she is cuter and more interesting than me
Pillbug

Dren posted:

What site do you play on where you can drop someone who already played that week before the week is over

On Yahoo if someone is on your bench you can drop them whenever.

e: you just can't pick up someone who has already played. It makes rotating handcuffs a sort-of-viable strategy, dropping them if the main back doesn't get hurt.

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

opposable thumbs.db posted:

On Yahoo if someone is on your bench you can drop them whenever.

Which is A Good Thing because Thursday games are loving stupid.

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine
Zach Zenner worth a pickup with Joique out?

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

365 Nog Hogger posted:

Zach Zenner worth a pickup with Joique out?

Your guess is as good as ours bud

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

365 Nog Hogger posted:

Zach Zenner worth a pickup with Joique out?

Depends on the type of league. Re-Draft, probably not, unless you are stashing him to see if he puts up numbers. In dynasty, I have him tucked away for the future on a 29-man roster.

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine

GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:

Your guess is as good as ours bud

My guesses are... bad.

cams
Mar 28, 2003


i just looked at espn stats and holy poo poo 20% of espn leagues had someone starting michael vick? hahahaha

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

cams posted:

i just looked at espn stats and holy poo poo 20% of espn leagues had someone starting michael vick? hahahaha

Well, with Ben, Brady, Romo, and Mariota all out and Brees looking iffy (and bad anyway), if you're in a 12 team league where people roster a backup QB, you'd be scraping the bottom of the barrel if you had Brees and Mariota or Brady and Romo or whatever.

headcase
Sep 28, 2001

Is Terrence Williams worth anything at this point? I don't trust him after the goose egg last week. I'm thinking about swapping him out for a Brian Quick prospect. I could also drop Davante Adams, but I'm still hoping for a late season breakout.

My WRs are not good.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

SET A COURSE FOR
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cams posted:

i just looked at espn stats and holy poo poo 20% of espn leagues had someone starting michael vick? hahahaha

I had Brady, no backup, and the next best QB available was Alex Smith. What would you do?

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine

headcase posted:

Is Terrence Williams worth anything at this point? I don't trust him after the goose egg last week. I'm thinking about swapping him out for a Brian Quick prospect. I could also drop Davante Adams, but I'm still hoping for a late season breakout.

My WRs are not good.
He may be the nominal wr1 but he isn't particularly talented and he has weeden throwing to him. He will be my next drop or a prospect.

Franks Happy Place
Mar 15, 2011

It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the dank of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion.

365 Nog Hogger posted:

Zach Zenner worth a pickup with Joique out?

Absolutely. Detroit has a history under Caldwell of preferring two heavily involved RBs, not unlike New England or Cincinnati. Abdullah has been performing as the Reggie Bush replacement, so it's not entirely unreasonable to think Zenner, if effective, could supplant Bell for the "Joique Bell job".

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012
Theo Riddick will be the beneficiary of bell not playing

Franks Happy Place
Mar 15, 2011

It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the dank of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion.

Metapod posted:

Theo Riddick will be the beneficiary of bell not playing

At first, maybe (even probably). Caldwell is really conservative after all. That said:

a) Zenner might get a few snaps, and if he runs like he did in the pre-season, that could parlay into more work going forward.

b) Now that Joique is drifting down the depth chart, all it would take at this point to make Zenner fantasydefinitely relevant is one more injury, to either Riddick or Abdullah.

The thing about RBs is, you need to be ahead of the curve. Go to where the puck is going to be, etc. etc. If you had waited for Arians to come out and explicitly say "Chris Johnson is my guy", or waited for Christine Michael to start his run up the depth chart, you'd be too late now.

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps
To be fair, and it remains to be seen after one game....Chris Johnson sucked last year as a Jet. So I was prepared to not touch him. Then you had the David Johnson hype train.

Ayudo
Mar 30, 2006

Franks Happy Place posted:

At first, maybe (even probably). Caldwell is really conservative after all. That said:

a) Zenner might get a few snaps, and if he runs like he did in the pre-season, that could parlay into more work going forward.

b) Now that Joique is drifting down the depth chart, all it would take at this point to make Zenner fantasydefinitely relevant is one more injury, to either Riddick or Abdullah.

The thing about RBs is, you need to be ahead of the curve. Go to where the puck is going to be, etc. etc. If you had waited for Arians to come out and explicitly say "Chris Johnson is my guy", or waited for Christine Michael to start his run up the depth chart, you'd be too late now.

What do we know about Zenner? There was a lot of preseason buzz about the Cowboys signing him as an UDFA, but is his skill set a direct replacement for Bell's? Also, what confidence do people have in the o-line to play better with Zenner than Bell?

I'll confirm the Joe Lombardi school of running backs is to have a heavy rotation. Whoever replaces Bell could see an Ingram-like workload and TD upside (if the lions can get out of their poo poo-filled bed).

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
I think it's prudent to pump the brakes a bit on CJ?k. He had one good game after years of mediocrity. He's in a good spot but that's still a RBBC right now.

And CMike hasn't done crap either. I get the "be ahead of the curve thing" and agree with it. We were talking about L. Murray about 6 weeks ahead of time last year so who knows.

Ayudo
Mar 30, 2006
Joe Lombardi seems to have confidence in Zenner at least.

Who dares wins. Going to drop Dunbar for Zenner and see for myself.

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

Honore_De_Balzac posted:

It is also collusion.

Doesn't half to be. If it is it's really lovely, poorly executed collusion.

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine

Ayudo posted:

Joe Lombardi seems to have confidence in Zenner at least.

Who dares wins. Going to drop Dunbar for Zenner and see for myself.

My RB2 options are Alfred Morris and Doug Martin, I am sorely tempted.

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

Ayudo posted:

Joe Lombardi seems to have confidence in Zenner at least.

Who dares wins. Going to drop Dunbar for Zenner and see for myself.

Surely you have someone better to drop than Dunbar. He'll slow down some almost surely, but he's in a fantastic situation and has already shown himself to be a great flex (RB28 in standard) or even high end RB2 with any PPR (RB12 in full, without yet scoring a TD :stare:).

Ayudo
Mar 30, 2006

RVProfootballer posted:

Surely you have someone better to drop than Dunbar. He'll slow down some almost surely, but he's in a fantastic situation and has already shown himself to be a great flex (RB28 in standard) or even high end RB2 with any PPR (RB12 in full, without yet scoring a TD :stare:).

I have plenty of potential lotto tickets to drop, but I feel Dunbar's ceiling is probably close to what we saw last week. If Zenner, Cmike, or Quick look especially bad I can pick him back up maybe. I don't have bye week issues until after week 6, and don't see him cracking my lineup until then. Whereas if someone breaks out they might contribute immediately. It's a calculated moonshot admittedly.

Edited to add: Lance Dunbar has never scored a TD since entering the league.

Ayudo fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Oct 3, 2015

Infernus
Nov 17, 2007
Don't just stare at it, eat it
Can we ask for advice here? I never thought I would ask this but who should I play Peyton Manning or Dalton?

ZIGfried
Nov 4, 2005

I can hardly contain myself!
Don't sit your studs

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012

ZIGfried posted:

Don't sit your studs

Yeah play Dalton

BrandNew
May 16, 2007

Get me my BLUE WINDBREAKER!
Dalton has outscored Peyton every week and is going up against the Defense giving up the most points to fantasy QBs. I certainly wouldn't have a problem sitting Peyton for Dalton this week.

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN

Franks Happy Place posted:

At first, maybe (even probably). Caldwell is really conservative after all. That said:

a) Zenner might get a few snaps, and if he runs like he did in the pre-season, that could parlay into more work going forward.

b) Now that Joique is drifting down the depth chart, all it would take at this point to make Zenner fantasydefinitely relevant is one more injury, to either Riddick or Abdullah.

The thing about RBs is, you need to be ahead of the curve. Go to where the puck is going to be, etc. etc. If you had waited for Arians to come out and explicitly say "Chris Johnson is my guy", or waited for Christine Michael to start his run up the depth chart, you'd be too late now.

I'm just saying bro, but you know the whole Charles Sims meme is due to you declaring how awesome he will be in a similar situation last year right?

Honore_De_Balzac
Feb 12, 2013

BigFactory posted:

Doesn't half to be. If it is it's really lovely, poorly executed collusion.

It isn't a big deal. I just dont see how two teams working together for the benefit of one team, while also cheating the waiver wire, isn't collusion. It could have been a mistake, but if he traded Bradford with the intent to not gain from it he is "cheating". It could be fine, I just consider skirting the waiver wire to be a form of cheating.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!

Franks Happy Place posted:

If you had waited for Arians to come out and explicitly say "Chris Johnson is my guy", or waited for Christine Michael to start his run up the depth chart, you'd be too late now.

Except Michael is still available in like 95% of leagues and has yet to actually be active for a game?

Enforka
Dec 24, 2004

Honore_De_Balzac posted:

It isn't a big deal. I just dont see how two teams working together for the benefit of one team, while also cheating the waiver wire, isn't collusion. It could have been a mistake, but if he traded Bradford with the intent to not gain from it he is "cheating". It could be fine, I just consider skirting the waiver wire to be a form of cheating.
I agree. It's not so egregious that it deserves a major suspension, but it's skirting the lines of cheating. It's sort of like if Bill Belichick played fantasy football.

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

Honore_De_Balzac posted:

It isn't a big deal. I just dont see how two teams working together for the benefit of one team, while also cheating the waiver wire, isn't collusion. It could have been a mistake, but if he traded Bradford with the intent to not gain from it he is "cheating". It could be fine, I just consider skirting the waiver wire to be a form of cheating.

If only one side was in on it, it can't be collusion. The other side just got used.

Cigar Aficionado
Nov 1, 2004

"Patel"? Fuck you.
"There were some findings" in Marshawn Lynch's MRI. So that's not good.

Rawls now becomes immediately relevant.

Gobias Ind.
Apr 5, 2007

If your girlfriend says hey to me that's our girlfriend now idc

BigFactory posted:

If only one side was in on it, it can't be collusion. The other side just got used.

This is what I think likely happened and is why I'm not even going to bother saying anything to the commish. Thanks for your input guys. Wasn't quite sure how to interpret what played out.

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Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
Holy loving poo poo are we really talking about 4th string RB and special team specialist Zach Zenner again.

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