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Nebakenezzer posted:I think the Axis 1) needed guided missiles, and 2) didn't have the technology. So they ended up with guided missiles guided by squishy organic computers. The Japanese had this thing, and those strategic submarine launched airplanes. The Germans had the Me 163 stationed near strategic facilities, kinda like early SAMs, and were messing about with manned V1s, which were Kamikaz-esque. Apparently the Nazis did have a suicide squadron that ran kamikazi like suicide missions but they decided it was dumb and a complete waste. Leonidas squadron. 35 aircraft and pilots for one bridge destroyed.
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Oct 3, 2015 19:13
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Nebakenezzer posted:I think the Axis 1) needed guided missiles, and 2) didn't have the technology. So they ended up with guided missiles guided by squishy organic computers. The Japanese had this thing, and those strategic submarine launched airplanes. The Germans had the Me 163 stationed near strategic facilities, kinda like early SAMs, and were messing about with manned V1s, which were Kamikaz-esque. Don't forget about the Bachem Natter, which was, for those who don't know, a vertically-launched, semi-expendable rocket-powered manned interceptor. It was truly one of the more bizzare concepts to emerge from the Germans.
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I noticed that the wings on the BAC TSR-2 looked hilariously small for how big it is so I looked up the landing speed. I didn't find any particularly authoritative sources, but according to this the landing speed was only 130 knots!?
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Oct 3, 2015 21:33
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david_a posted:I noticed that the wings on the BAC TSR-2 looked hilariously small for how big it is so I looked up the landing speed. I didn't find any particularly authoritative sources, but according to this the landing speed was only 130 knots!? Yes it is possible. The TSR-2 was fitted with full-span blown trailing-edge flaps. Basically they take bleed air off the engines, then blow it over the upper surface of the flaps. This encourages the surrounding airflow to "stick" to the flap surface (instead of separating into turbulent air), which dramatically improves lift production with the system active.
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Oct 3, 2015 22:02
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MrChips posted:Yes it is possible. The TSR-2 was fitted with full-span blown trailing-edge flaps. Basically they take bleed air off the engines, then blow it over the upper surface of the flaps. This encourages the surrounding airflow to "stick" to the flap surface (instead of separating into turbulent air), which dramatically improves lift production with the system active. I've gotta be that guy and clarify that while the boundary later is sticking and not separating, it very much is turbulent (and not laminar). Separated boundary layer: a stall. Turbulent boundary layer: the normal condition over most of the surface of most wings, in normal flight.
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Oct 3, 2015 22:16
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The TSR2 did seem to have tiny wings in proportion to the rest of it but it was also huge
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vessbot posted:I've gotta be that guy and clarify that while the boundary later is sticking and not separating, it very much is turbulent (and not laminar). No, you're not that guy; I made a mistake and you're absolutely right. 
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Oct 3, 2015 22:26
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MrChips posted:Don't forget about the Bachem Natter, which was, for those who don't know, a vertically-launched, semi-expendable rocket-powered manned interceptor. It was truly one of the more bizzare concepts to emerge from the Germans. I did forget about the Natter, and am ashamed. In addition to what MrChips said, it was made of wood and was armed with dumbfire rockets to use against allied day bombers.
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Oct 3, 2015 23:20
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freelop posted:Ohka II The large amount of regular ordnance might have all missed, though, whereas you might have thought this would be extremely accurate, what with the human guiding it in all the way.. quote:According to the plaque they were highly innacurate too ..oh. Why, though? Maybe they weren't controllable enough in their high speed terminal dive? quote:Messerschmitt Me 163b-1a  (yes, I know it's the generator)
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MrChips posted:Yes it is possible. The TSR-2 was fitted with full-span blown trailing-edge flaps. Basically they take bleed air off the engines, then blow it over the upper surface of the flaps. This encourages the surrounding airflow to "stick" to the flap surface (instead of separating into turbulent air), which dramatically improves lift production with the system active. Of course, with a wing like the TSR-2, it also means that a faulty pneumatic system can mean the airplane is essentially un-landable. 
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Saga posted:In before Connie hate! Did you get any interior pictures of that thing? I've got a big soft spot for HARS and the Connie, they're a great organisation. I'd nearly consider moving to Woolongong just to help out! (haha, no way.) If you're super keen they have a little book (~ 100 pages A5) on the rescue project and bringing Connie home. I got a copy from the museum, but it might be online. I had a chance to look through Connie in '09 at Avalon, and did capture some interior shots. To tickle your fancy:  The joys of humongous radials  I think it was $5 to have a wander through the plane. It was also super popular.  Scuse for the blurry  God only knows how ofter this all has to come off..  FE's post  Astronav window (  ) Nav station  Galley. Why did I take this photo?   40s luxury.  Back down the cabin from the galley  Bit of tail  
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Oct 4, 2015 07:37
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freelop posted:I've never been able to understand the logic of the Japanese suicide weapons. Even taking into account the "honourable death" thing it seems to use up far more resources than firing a tonne of regular ordinance. that's assuming you have more industrial resources than men willing to die I suppose to them it made more sense to give each pilot a lovely plane to happily fly into a target than to build complex, more advanced planes and have the pilots draw a lottery to determine who gets to fly it (and immediately shot down, because all their experienced pilots were already dead) all of this, of course, could have been avoided if the japanese ministers and generals had realised how unrealistic winning a long term war against industrial and naval powers would be, given how sources of oil, ore, and rubber are separated by literal seas from the japanese mainland
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Oct 4, 2015 07:41
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david_a posted:I noticed that the wings on the BAC TSR-2 looked hilariously small for how big it is so I looked up the landing speed. I didn't find any particularly authoritative sources, but according to this the landing speed was only 130 knots!? To be fair, if it had been used for it's intended war role needing to land again would probably have been a moot point.
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Oct 4, 2015 09:30
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Come on, it's even beautiful inside.  Really wish I'd gotten an arse shot.
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Oct 4, 2015 10:43
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Sanguine posted:Galley. Why did I take this photo? Same!  No, I know why I took photos, because there were lights and switches  HOT JUGS  Oh wait, apparently there are three, that's not hot  I just noticed I took a photo of a photo of someone using the astronav window:  For anyone who doesn't hate these planes and missed it earlier, the rest of my photos are here: http://imgur.com/a/SSCQ5
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Oct 4, 2015 10:53
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Aww don't be sad. I don't hate it, it's just ugly to look at externally. She's beautiful on the inside if that's any constellation
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Oct 4, 2015 12:15
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Buttcoin purse posted:..oh. Why, though? Maybe they weren't controllable enough in their high speed terminal dive? The plaque said they were released from carrier aircraft and glided to the target, activating their rocket motors at the last moment. The slow speed of the glide made them difficult to control
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Oct 4, 2015 14:46
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simplefish posted:Aww don't be sad. I don't hate it, it's just ugly to look at externally. She's beautiful on the inside if that's any constellation Your can't make up for your bad opinions with a bad pun.
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Buttcoin purse posted:The large amount of regular ordnance might have all missed, though, whereas you might have thought this would be extremely accurate, what with the human guiding it in all the way.. This weekend I happened to see some videos about the Ohka in TV and they mentioned that 14% of them hit. That's not a good number, but as far as WW2 era bombs go they were probably highly accurate. And since I believe the japanese didn't have guided bombs unlike the germans I can't think of any other way they could have attempted anti-ship strikes in practice. Even if it was wasted effort overall.
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Excellent. (I really have to finish part three...) Also, I have no idea what a charabanc is
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Nebakenezzer posted:Excellent. (I really have to finish part three...) Tt's a "cart with benches". The ancestor of the autobus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charabanc Cat Mattress fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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Oct 4, 2015 23:30
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Nebakenezzer posted:Excellent. (I really have to finish part three...) "Tour bus" would be the best modern fit.
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Oct 4, 2015 23:44
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Holy poo poo, how? http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...flow%3Afacebook
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McDeth posted:Holy poo poo, how? I'd guess heart attack or brain aneurysm, based on the fact that the major airline captain population has a large percentage of overweight older guys (for the heart attack), and brain aneurysms are one of the things that an FAA medical screening probably isn't going to catch, and that leads to a pretty rapid death if the aneurysm ruptures. Also, brilliant username/post combo.
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McDeth posted:Holy poo poo, how? Why do you think we know? Only took .3 seconds for somebody to proclaim to the public that Medicals aren't safe enough and we need more oversight. Brilliant work.
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Oct 5, 2015 21:40
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Captain Apollo posted:Why do you think we know? We need a Class AAA medical, and more regulations in Part 121, so that you cant start the engines unless the Captain and F/O are plugged into an EKG, and have their catheters inserted.
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Yeah, there are all kinds of hidden conditions and even random events that can make you shuffle off the mortal coil with little to no warning. That's why there are two pilots.
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Sanguine posted:Galley. Why did I take this photo? why wouldn't you? here's the most important part of Concorde:  Concorde 05 by notpsion, on Flickr
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McDeth posted:Holy poo poo, how? Heart attack apparently, guy had a double bypass a couple years back but was passing physicals fine.
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Party Plane Jones posted:Heart attack apparently, guy had a double bypass a couple years back but was passing physicals fine. Wow. You'd think that having a heart bypass at all would disqualify you. It's not a fix, it's a way to tack a few extra years onto your life.
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EightBit posted:Wow. You'd think that having a heart bypass at all would disqualify you. It's not a fix, it's a way to tack a few extra years onto your life. If they cared about that at all the blood pressure limit for a class I wouldn't be 155/95
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EightBit posted:Wow. You'd think that having a heart bypass at all would disqualify you. It's not a fix, it's a way to tack a few extra years onto your life. The buypass was in 2006, so 9 years! According to the news, he was required to get physical's every 6 months to keep flying.
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That's quite a bit of Swede, there.
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EightBit posted:Wow. You'd think that having a heart bypass at all would disqualify you. It's not a fix, it's a way to tack a few extra years onto your life. I think you can make the same argument about every medical procedure ever - nothing fixes death. It's all about what level of risk you're willing to accept. I feel like nine years (well, 8.5) of passing physicals every six months shows they were taking it seriously.
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If the one in the back is called the Tunnan, is the one in front of it called the "hockey goalie" in Swedish?
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