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400th post.. maybe.. gently caress this world, man. Edit: Great.. didn't expect to get a snipe.. For content: How about that Tony Abbott hey? Can't let him out of sight for a second without hilarity ensuing.. The end.
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Jumpingmanjim posted:If Tone was still prime minister we would be bombing paramatta by now. Voting tone now
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Oct 4, 2015 08:44
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Look we're Australian, can't we just label the murdering kid what he actually is? A fuckwit.
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Oct 4, 2015 08:58
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What a bloody drongo
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Oct 4, 2015 09:03
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Not the full quid
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Oct 4, 2015 09:03
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Oct 4, 2015 09:04
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A Collingwood supporter.
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Oct 4, 2015 09:06
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Redcordial posted:400th post.. maybe.. This is a really bad post. Regarding the shooting, I'm mostly just disappointed that the conservatives got what they wanted. They deliberately alienate and isolate the communities involved by branding them terrorists and then get the attacks they wanted so they can brand it as terrorism. It's frightening how easily they pulled it off.
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Oct 4, 2015 09:07
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Proactive reactionary conservatism
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Oct 4, 2015 09:09
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Splode posted:Regarding the shooting, I'm mostly just disappointed that the conservatives got what they wanted. They deliberately alienate and isolate the communities involved by branding them terrorists and then get the attacks they wanted so they can brand it as terrorism. It's frightening how easily they pulled it off.
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Oct 4, 2015 09:19
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What's weird in this case is that the basket-case Right are already screaming that Turnbull is going to be a soft lefty about it all because he loves the ABC. Stop the mosques which have magic powers or something. edit: Also the Oils are a poo poo band because you know who was the singer. 
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Oct 4, 2015 09:51
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Did IS actually claim responsibility for Monis? I thought he was just totally lone wolf. Wasn't he a Shiite? And a former practitioner of black magic, or something like that, the kind of thing that would get you beheaded in Raqqa? edit - I mean lone wolf in the sense that he tried to associate himself with IS and they weren't interested, like a Milhouse figure trying to hang out with the cool kids.
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Oct 4, 2015 09:58
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freebooter posted:Did IS actually claim responsibility for Monis? I thought he was just totally lone wolf. Wasn't he a Shiite? And a former practitioner of black magic, or something like that, the kind of thing that would get you beheaded in Raqqa? They claimed support of their ally in Australia yadda yadda. They had literally no idea who he was but were just claiming support anyway.
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Oct 4, 2015 10:04
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Lid posted:They claimed support of their ally in Australia yadda yadda. They had literally no idea who he was but were just claiming support anyway. "That guy, that did the thing? Yeah he was alright"
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Oct 4, 2015 10:42
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ewe2 posted:edit: Also the Oils are a poo poo band because you know who was the singer. Australia today: White guy kills someone = Sad but regular crime. Middle Eastern looking guy kills someone = Terrorism. I'm half surprised they haven't attempted to claim a muslim having a sneeze is "committing a bio-warfare attack on are soil".
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Oct 4, 2015 11:20
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Pickled Tink posted:I'm half surprised they haven't attempted to claim a muslim having a sneeze is "committing a bio-warfare attack on are soil". Thank you for reminding me of this http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...022-119ve0.html
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Oct 4, 2015 11:24
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Oct 4, 2015 11:32
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Do you think tones is fuming right now that malcolm is up on stage presenting the NRL trophy instead of him?
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Oct 4, 2015 11:49
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Oct 4, 2015 11:51
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Pickled Tink posted:Australia today: White guy kills someone = Sad but regular crime. Middle Eastern looking guy kills someone = Terrorism. That's amazingly disingenuous. What the gently caress PT. We wouldn't tolerate people coming in here spouting miranda devine or andrew bolt talking points, why does poo poo like this get a pass?
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Oct 4, 2015 11:56
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Do you think tones is fuming right now that malcolm is up on stage presenting the NRL trophy instead of him? lmao he got booed and did the exact same gesture Tony did.
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Oct 4, 2015 12:04
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Pickled Tink posted:Voldemort? http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/parramatta-shooting-hizb-uttahrir-links-to-teen-gunman-farhad-jabar-khalil-mohammad-alleged-20151004-gk10wh.html
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Oct 4, 2015 12:08
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I don't know if this got brought up before by me or someone else, but a li'l bit back we stalled the TPP by refusing to extend the restriction of bio-similar medication manufacture from five to twelve years, and it seems we just acquiesced to about eight. So that's what everyone else lower on the economic food chain's lost a big ol' bargaining chip down to
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Oct 4, 2015 13:31
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Hobo Erotica posted:This is from the end of the last thread, but it's calling it a 'medical procedure' which illustrates the lack of understanding of the issue. It's like calling offshore detention an 'immigration procedure'. That doesn't mean that what it actually entails isn't potentially objectionable. In this case, they're talking about the termination of human foetuses. In their view, life begins at conception. While admittedly debatable, it's not arbitrary or indefensible. Where do you think it begins? At what point would you stop allowing abortions? 14 weeks? 22 weeks? 28 weeks? Full term? Unless it's full term there's a line there somewhere, so what consequences should there be for the parties involved if they cross the line? I don't think anyone misunderstands why these people are angry. People don't understand why they advocate for loving murder over it. I'm mad about our torture of refugees, am I doing public speaking agitating for serco guards to be murdered? I'm mad about cutting benefits leaving people to starve and die on the street, am I advocating for politicians to be murdered? They're mad about children being killed, and yet they literally advocate and support the murder of people who perform those actions within the bounds of the law. Not only is that hypocritical as gently caress it is also the actions of a person who is deeply loving ill. Murder is not how we solve things that we see as problems within our society. I especially don't understand advocating for the murder of doctors who perform abortions, I understand advocating for laws to be changed to make abortions illegal because that lines up with their understanding of life as "beginning at conception" which in itself is an arbitrary line and life being valuable. Murdering people goes directly against the whole "life is valuable" thing, but again I don't believe in capital punishment either so what the gently caress ever. Abortion and when it's ok is always a matter of degrees. Is every time an egg goes unfertilised a murder? The line gets drawn somewhere, to me, once it's born it's a person, once a baby is capable of living by it's own means (obv needs feeding etc but can maintain it's own function of life independant of the mothers system) it's probably in the "shouldn't abort" category. Until that point I don't see it as much different from any other collection of cells in the body. Advocating for the murder of people who institute a policy you don't agree with is Brown Blitzkrieg levels of what the gently caress is wrong with you.
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Oct 4, 2015 13:37
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Oct 4, 2015 13:41
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on the other hand, kill the rich, imo.
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Jumpingmanjim posted:A Collingwood supporter. Woah woah let's not get too offensive in here
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Oct 4, 2015 13:43
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BBJoey posted:on the other hand, kill the rich, imo. Please let me know your speaking dates for your upcoming speaking tour of the US unironically advocating the murder of the rich. That isn't intended as a barb, it would honestly be the most amazing piece of performance art.
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Oct 4, 2015 13:43
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Tirade posted:That's amazingly disingenuous. What the gently caress PT. The kid shot a police worker. If he was truly trying to perform some act of terror instead of just attacking the state, he could have walked anywhere else in Parramatta and blown away a bunch more people with far greater effect (And less effort). Even if he did listen to radicalising lectures by people (And at the moment Lid's article says it is just speculation), that doesn't make him a terrorist any more than some other dude shooting a cop in a freeway stop does. I have yet to see anything from him declaring this to be "holy Jihad" or other such known "I am a terrorist" markers. As far as we can tell this is just an alienated teen who snapped in a climate where he believed he was being vilified because of his ethnicity and religion. Instead of waiting for an examination of the facts we had press speculating/declaring this to be terrorism as soon as they found out it was a middle eastern teen.
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Oct 4, 2015 14:35
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The Peccadillo posted:I don't know if this got brought up before by me or someone else, but a li'l bit back we stalled the TPP by refusing to extend the restriction of bio-similar medication manufacture from five to twelve years, and it seems we just acquiesced to about eight. Has there been any report on this? I've been looking around news sites all night for any update to see if it fell over or went ahead. I know the current round of negotiations were extended by a day and that Australia and Japan were heavily opposed t0 extending medical patents to 8 years. Hopefully they can't come to an agreement because there's a lot of talk that if they can't reach a deal during this round, it's not going to happen,
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Oct 4, 2015 14:43
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I hope we aren't so distracted by this thing to be too distracted by that last thing that we were distracted by; the thing that was distracting so we won't remember to not be distracted by the original thing that reminded us to not be distracted by the thing that we were meant to be distracted by because that would distract us from the lovely thing that they were about to use as a distraction from their original purpose.
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Oct 4, 2015 14:58
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QUACKTASTIC posted:I hope we aren't so distracted by this thing to be too distracted by that last thing that we were distracted by; the thing that was distracting so we won't remember to not be distracted by the original thing that reminded us to not be distracted by the thing that we were meant to be distracted by because that would distract us from the lovely thing that they were about to use as a distraction from their original purpose. don't worry, we still remember dcfadp
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Oct 4, 2015 15:55
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dcfadp is definitely something that is not distracting
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Oct 4, 2015 17:47
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Pickled Tink posted:I am referring to the immediate assumption of terrorism instead of just plain crime. There's nothing plain or regular about shooting a police employee in the head and then dying in a shootout with cops outside a police station, and pretending otherwise is part of the reason you're full of poo poo. "Just attacking the state"? Get hosed.
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Oct 4, 2015 23:22
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Bendigo mosque protesters behead someone.  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-05/anti-islamic-group-stage-fake-beheading-in-bendigo/6827220
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Oct 4, 2015 23:36
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Haha those Chaser guys up to no good again!  
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Oct 4, 2015 23:58
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Halo14 posted:Haha those Chaser guys up to no good again! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwrbyVaC6EU
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Halo14 posted:Haha those Chaser guys up to no good again! I'll be honest, their video looks like someone is taking the piss out of them for being fuckwits, complete with cod Lebanese accent, lovely video filters and them doing illegal poo poo on camera. URL links to the UPF facebook page in case anyone would rather not visit it by the way https://www.facebook.com/unitedpatriotsfront/videos/183124668688660/?fref=nf
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Tirade posted:There's nothing plain or regular about shooting a police employee in the head and then dying in a shootout with cops outside a police station, and pretending otherwise is part of the reason you're full of poo poo. If he wanted to commit an "act of terrorism" that resonated strongly, he could have gone virtually anywhere else there. There are literally tens of thousands of potential victims there at any given time during the day. He could have walked into the food court at the Parramatta Westfield and had his choice of random stationary targets to plug. Instead he went to the police and shot a police worker. I'm not sure why I'm bothering to go to such lengths to respond to you since you have been so intellectually dishonest here, but what the hell. Let's pick apart a random article on it I found on the SMH (Basically the first one I found. I'm lazy and need to piss off to a barbeque shortly). Parramatta shooting: Gunman identified as Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar quote:The 15-year-old boy who shot dead a NSW police employee outside the force's headquarters had not come to the attention of counter terrorism police before he carried out the "politically motivated" attack. quote:High school student Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar shot dead police accountant Curtis Cheng, 58, from behind and at close range outside police headquarters at Parramatta at 4.30pm on Friday. quote:Police said they had not yet uncovered any messages, religious writings or notes left by Farhad. quote:Mr Scipione said police were a "long way from establishing a full picture of the boy" but said he was of Iraqi-Kurdish background and born in Iran and had been living in North Parramatta with family. quote:Premier Mike Baird said the shock that a 15-year-old could carry out such an act would be felt not just in Sydney but around the world. So at this stage there is literally no evidence whatsoever to support the claim that this was a specific act of terrorism, rather than a kid shooting at his local cops for whatever angry reason he had in his 15 year old brain. It certainly wouldn't be the first time someone has attacked the police (That is, sadly, all too common) but one of the relatively few times they actually killed one. The fact that it is just assumed and taken for granted is what I am angry about, as I already said. If a white christian had done this, it would not have been declared terrorism so quickly and with no evidence. I can say that at least with a great deal of certainty based on how reporting of shootings and violence by white people is virtually never described as such.
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Yep its probably just a random killing, best not to speculate, because it might put the Muslim community in a bad light. The police are unfairly trying to get answers from the mosque and local community, where the offender happened to of come from. Until we find a literal manifesto, we just can't know!
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