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no_recall
Aug 17, 2015

Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkaFt1Bo6xQ

"This ship is a game changer, what sold me on this ship is this picture....."

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B_of_InfoRedux
Oct 6, 2015

WANT A MELTDOWN? KEEP READING FROM YOUR MOTHERS BASEMENTS WHILE YOU BEAT YOUR TINY DICK SECRETLY THINKING OF SANDI YOU HYPOCRITICAL PIECES OF HUMAN GARBAGE.

exquisite tea posted:

Star Citizen looks pretty hosed but to those who are like "Elite: Dangerous is so much better already" what's the appeal of it, really? I loaded up a few gameplay videos and it just seems like for the most part you're doing MMO fetch quests in mostly empty space, whizzing right by points of interest while trying to control your lovely starter ship, and taking five minutes to jump anywhere. All the while you can't actually land on planets yet and all you have to look at are slightly differentiated skyboxes. This is the dream game for some people? This is what people want to spend the rest of their waking lives doing?

All valid points regarding ED. The difference is though they started small and are building from there. And unlike some games they're not letting their ambition get the best of them.

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer

AP posted:



I noticed this linked today when someone was saying something similar.

I figured someone might modify it to more closely match the Star Citizen experience.

I am at work and can't do this but:

slide 1: replace left head with Croberts silhouette: "SC is the BDSSGE" (or whatever the acronym is)

slide 2: replace left head with Lesnick silhouette: "SC is the BDSSGE"

slide3: replace left head withdickwolf silhouette "SC is the BDSSGE"

slide4: replace left head with DS silhouette: "SC is never gonna happen"
replace right head with Croberts silhouette
after "branding" add add "(intervention) "

It's true because to an outsider (i.e. non-cultist), the criticism by now is much more prevalent in the media, also SC is not a brand

Hopper fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Oct 6, 2015

lauresh
Jun 1, 2013

What are we having for dinner?
I look forward to Citizen Con (:lol:) this weekend when they announce a heavily delayed feature will be out in two weeks.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

Jethro_E7 posted:

Interestingly, he also states that it was not just a "employee card", but ALSO a paystub.

That was in the original piece, which just makes all those idiots at CIG posting their keycards look really dim, nobody on the internet can read for poo poo.

"A big bunch of people that used to work here say Star Citizen is a scam and we're piling money on top of a large burning cross, I think we focus on one minor point, post photos of us looking smug and ignore everything else".

no_recall
Aug 17, 2015

Lipstick Apathy

B_of_InfoRedux posted:

All valid points regarding ED. The difference is though they started small and are building from there. And unlike some games they're not letting their ambition get the best of them.

Elite : Dangerous is a very very good example of good vision and good development practices. It's definitely nothing worth bragging about but their milestone was to recreate a modern Elite, which I think they totally nailed.

The game drops you in the middle of its dense forest of systems and doesn't care about you. Which is what makes it my kind of game. My opinion is that Elite isn't for everyone.

Compared to what SC dreams about, Elite is a harsh reality of game development. I really think what they've delivered is what is completely possible within the past 3 years.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

Because this wasn't enough of a clusterfuck already... Brianna Wu heard someone whisper "Gamergate" and has decided to weigh in on this:

Who's Brianna Wu? In 4 words or less please.

4 inch cut no femmes
May 31, 2011

no_recall posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkaFt1Bo6xQ

"This ship is a game changer, what sold me on this ship is this picture....."

Where I get lost is when he starts talking about research and super colliders because I thought this was a new wing commander ie space shooty game. Agriculture? In a space game?

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Fun Shoe

AP posted:

Who's Brianna Wu? In 4 words or less please.

Some oval office.

kordansk
Sep 12, 2011

AP posted:

Who's Brianna Wu? In 4 words or less please.

A dumb human being.

lauresh
Jun 1, 2013

What are we having for dinner?

AP posted:

Who's Brianna Wu? In 4 words or less please.

anti-gamergate attention whore

kordansk
Sep 12, 2011

That Jerk Steve posted:

I don't think salacious means what Brianna thinks it means

It rhymes with delicious - does that make it a synonym?

Jethro_E7
Dec 11, 2014

AP posted:

That was in the original piece, which just makes all those idiots at CIG posting their keycards look really dim, nobody on the internet can read for sh**.

"A big bunch of people that used to work here say Star Citizen is a scam and we're piling money on top of a large burning cross, I think we focus on one minor point, post photos of us looking smug and ignore everything else".

And if the stub is real (and there appears little reason to doubt it) it seems this was just to rally the nerves of the loyalists.





If escapist get more people willing to come forward, CIG are even more sunk than they already are. Even the phrase quoted "don't want the stress of meeting CR's standards" is a giveaway that there is probably yelling (and more) is going on.

Can't help but think of the twits when looking at those beards.

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Zo posted:

I was thinking, is there a way for CR to parlay star citizen into an actual full blown cult and drop all pretense of game development? It sounds like a joke but look at scientology. Hubbard was just a lovely science fiction writer and spent what i imagine decades building up a member base and his hollywood connections.
If they need funds to finish the game that badly they could ask the Räelian for money and turn their game into a recruitment tool.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

WhyteRyce posted:

How hard would it be to just make a Sid Meier's Pirates in space and call it a day?

What, you mean Space Rangers?

kordansk
Sep 12, 2011
True believers ignore the truth in front of them. It is like severe myopia.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

AP posted:

Who's Brianna Wu? In 4 words or less please.

Bad mobile games developer.

Hamburger Test
Jul 2, 2007

Sure hope this works!

no_recall posted:

Elite : Dangerous is a very very good example of good vision and good development practices. It's definitely nothing worth bragging about but their milestone was to recreate a modern Elite, which I think they totally nailed.

The game drops you in the middle of its dense forest of systems and doesn't care about you. Which is what makes it my kind of game. My opinion is that Elite isn't for everyone.

So if I really liked Frontier / Frontier: First Encounters back in the day, and ever felt like I wanted to space truck farming machines and computer parts until I could afford a fun ship, that would be for me?

I almost gave Braben money when the kickstarter was running since his presentation was very sound, but they did not need my money and was not sure I actually wanted to be a space trucker again. Never gave CR anything either, but that was never a consideration at all.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Hamburger Test posted:

So if I really liked Frontier / Frontier: First Encounters back in the day, and ever felt like I wanted to space truck farming machines and computer parts until I could afford a fun ship, that would be for me?

Yes. Elite lacks any sort of Newtonian physics like Frontier had, but other than that it's same old. No planetary landings yet, but that's coming soonish and it's getting better slowly.

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler

Hamburger Test posted:

So if I really liked Frontier / Frontier: First Encounters back in the day, and ever felt like I wanted to space truck farming machines and computer parts until I could afford a fun ship, that would be for me?

I almost gave Braben money when the kickstarter was running since his presentation was very sound, but they did not need my money and was not sure I actually wanted to be a space trucker again. Never gave CR anything either, but that was never a consideration at all.
You should absolutely get E:D if that's what you're into. You can get a giant ship and trade 10000 tons of space tractors at once, or a small fast ship and run rare space drugs across the galaxy for roughly the same profit. There is every possible variety of space trucking.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

You can do that but you won't buy a fun ship, you'll buy a ship that does pretty much the same thing the last one did but with bigger numbers. It's a very pretty screensaver and I enjoy it when listening to podcasts. But once you get into the rhythm there is not much game there.

Exception: There's a dedicated PvP mode now that I haven't tried out, but word is it's awesome.

dipple
Oct 22, 2008

AP posted:

That was in the original piece, which just makes all those idiots at CIG posting their keycards look really dim, nobody on the internet can read for poo poo.

Anytime I've mentioned the pay stubs people just say well anyone with a printer can fake a pay stub. lol

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

A Stupid Baby
Dec 31, 2002

lip up fatty
Okay I am sorry but there is just way too much information to churn through. How the gently caress exactly is a) Derek Smart still kicking around and b) how is he involved with this hot mess

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
a) no idea
b) he's the most experienced person to comment on bad games, as he's the only person who put out poo poo worse than star citizen.

lauresh
Jun 1, 2013

What are we having for dinner?

A Stupid Baby posted:

Okay I am sorry but there is just way too much information to churn through. How the gently caress exactly is a) Derek Smart still kicking around and b) how is he involved with this hot mess

Derek Smart poked CR and Sandi until they had a full on meltdown and now he won't shut the gently caress up

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
DS backed Star Citizen but came to the same conclusion goons did 2 years ago. He called out croberts in a series of big spergy blogs. Escapist found some people willing to dump poo poo on croberts and ran an article that came to the same conclusion that goons did 2 years ago. Croberts wrote a big crazy thing tying in every type of internet attention whore. Since then every internet attention whore has been putting in their 2 cents on the issue. Goons have been laughing all the way to the laugh bank over the whole issue.

B_of_InfoRedux
Oct 6, 2015

WANT A MELTDOWN? KEEP READING FROM YOUR MOTHERS BASEMENTS WHILE YOU BEAT YOUR TINY DICK SECRETLY THINKING OF SANDI YOU HYPOCRITICAL PIECES OF HUMAN GARBAGE.

no_recall posted:

Elite : Dangerous is a very very good example of good vision and good development practices. It's definitely nothing worth bragging about but their milestone was to recreate a modern Elite, which I think they totally nailed.

The game drops you in the middle of its dense forest of systems and doesn't care about you. Which is what makes it my kind of game. My opinion is that Elite isn't for everyone.

Compared to what SC dreams about, Elite is a harsh reality of game development. I really think what they've delivered is what is completely possible within the past 3 years.

It's definitely not for everyone, but I like it. And exactly because it doesn't care. Can't wait for Horizons though. And thankfully it'll be here before 2020.

B_of_InfoRedux
Oct 6, 2015

WANT A MELTDOWN? KEEP READING FROM YOUR MOTHERS BASEMENTS WHILE YOU BEAT YOUR TINY DICK SECRETLY THINKING OF SANDI YOU HYPOCRITICAL PIECES OF HUMAN GARBAGE.

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

You should absolutely get E:D if that's what you're into. You can get a giant ship and trade 10000 tons of space tractors at once, or a small fast ship and run rare space drugs across the galaxy for roughly the same profit. There is every possible variety of space trucking.

Space weed and space slaves. The only way to make money. I always feel bad when I accidentally jettison a slave while fueling at a star. Whoops.

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Fun Shoe
I liked X3:AP, would E:D be my thing?

Jethro_E7
Dec 11, 2014

Romes128 posted:

I liked X3:AP, would E:D be my thing?

Compared to X3, E:D is simplistic and has no soul.
I vastly prefer the more complex X3, especially with some nice mods in it.
There's no real end-game, as has been said here, each ship is just a ship with bigger numbers and then what?

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

A Stupid Baby posted:

Okay I am sorry but there is just way too much information to churn through. How the gently caress exactly is a) Derek Smart still kicking around and b) how is he involved with this hot mess



tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Note, in Star Citizen parlance "troubled users who we'd rather not have interacting with the community" are people who asks the questions "where is my loving game?" and "where the gently caress did my money go?".

They're more than happy to have people who's "interaction with the community" includes sexually harassing other members, that's fine.

a whole buncha crows
May 8, 2003

WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHO TO HATE, WE HATE OURSELVES.-SA USER NATION (AKA ME!)

tooterfish posted:

Note, in Star Citizen parlance "troubled users who we'd rather not have interacting with the community" are people who asks the questions "where is my loving game?" and "where the gently caress did my money go?".

They're more than happy to have people who's "interaction with the community" includes sexually harassing other members, that's fine.

this is loving hilarious day after day

RazNation
Aug 5, 2015

B_of_InfoRedux posted:

It's definitely not for everyone, but I like it. And exactly because it doesn't care. Can't wait for Horizons though. And thankfully it'll be here before 2020.

Also take a look at 'Rogue Systems' as well.

Not much content but has a technical side to it to play the game.

LastCaress
May 8, 2004

bonobo
Extremely late and just kind of a tangential doubt but doesn't the US have anti defamation laws that still are valid even when being truthful? In my country, if something is considered private information you can still be sued for defamation, regardless of truth. Like an ex-lover saying her ex-partner has a very small penis - defamation regardless of size of actual penis. I really just wanted to talk about penises.

VenusRedux
Oct 5, 2015

I love how this company got away with saying gently caress you so often for so long.

B_of_InfoRedux
Oct 6, 2015

WANT A MELTDOWN? KEEP READING FROM YOUR MOTHERS BASEMENTS WHILE YOU BEAT YOUR TINY DICK SECRETLY THINKING OF SANDI YOU HYPOCRITICAL PIECES OF HUMAN GARBAGE.

LastCaress posted:

Extremely late and just kind of a tangential doubt but doesn't the US have anti defamation laws that still are valid even when being truthful? In my country, if something is considered private information you can still be sued for defamation, regardless of truth. Like an ex-lover saying her ex-partner has a very small penis - defamation regardless of size of actual penis. I really just wanted to talk about penises.

The US does but this wouldn't really fall into the category under current law. Cig would have to prove that the statements in question were knowingly false when printed and that it was intended as malice. With all statements having been referred to as allegations and all sources vetted their pretty much covered via US law.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



LastCaress posted:

Extremely late and just kind of a tangential doubt but doesn't the US have anti defamation laws that still are valid even when being truthful? In my country, if something is considered private information you can still be sued for defamation, regardless of truth. Like an ex-lover saying her ex-partner has a very small penis - defamation regardless of size of actual penis. I really just wanted to talk about penises.

Not really. Slander and libel both requiere what is being said to be false, and even then if the figure is public and its a media source the one doing the claim then it needs to have malicious intent or disregard for the truth.

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lauresh
Jun 1, 2013

What are we having for dinner?

B_of_InfoRedux posted:

The US does but this wouldn't really fall into the category under current law. Cig would have to prove that the statements in question were knowingly false when printed and that it was intended as malice. With all statements having been referred to as allegations and all sources vetted their pretty much covered via US law.

They could sue the sources for defamation but frankly I don't see the escapist giving up their sources and the court isn't going to give enough of a gently caress to force them

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