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If you have a pretty large collection that you want to pare down somewhat, where do you really start? Right now, not counting basic lands, I have almost 27k cards. I know I can cut all the basics I have down by just keeping art I like for each one and get rid of all the rest of them, leaving me with 100 or so of each in reserve. I really want to winnow out all the cards that aren't playable in any format at all, but don't want to bulk out cards that are used in decks I don't have yet. I may never complete those decks, but I don't want to have to reacquire the playables after selling them off.
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If they didn't want players to play four colors then why did they print a high-power wedge set full of high-power wedge cards, then print a manabase that's insanely strong but only works with wedges if you add a fourth color? If the manabase were literally anything except "ally-only fetches for ally-only typed duals", Abzan probably would stay three colors.
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Oct 6, 2015 06:21
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Kilo147 posted:Wait, there's a drat storyline? each block has always had its own story, and there have been a couple of overarching storylines(weatherlight saga, everything since about alara)
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Oct 6, 2015 06:41
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Elyv posted:each block has always had its own story, and there have been a couple of overarching storylines(weatherlight saga, everything since about alara) The joke he's making is that he doesn't give a poo poo about the story.
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Oct 6, 2015 07:26
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As per the thread's recommendation I'm going to pick up the Clash starter deck: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MTG-Magic-Origins-Clash-Pack-Armed-And-Dangerous-INSTOCK-/301717491190?hash=item463fc38df6 Typically my friend and I alternate purchases on new games, so I buy this and he buys something to expand it. Is there a typical expansion route from the clash pack? Or does one just start down the road of blister packs?
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Oct 6, 2015 08:19
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Angry Grimace posted:I mean, if it was intentional that's one thing, but they made it pretty clear their intent was the opposite given Maro said Eldrazi were designed with colored mana so every deck couldn't play them + battlelands not supposed to be good in 4/5c decks. They obviously just hosed up. Well they're also thinking toward the future and in 6 months the mana is going to look waaaay different without fetches.
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Southern Heel posted:As per the thread's recommendation I'm going to pick up the Clash starter deck: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MTG-Magic-Origins-Clash-Pack-Armed-And-Dangerous-INSTOCK-/301717491190?hash=item463fc38df6 Generally once you have a starter product or two you just start opening packs and modifying your existing decks, or eventually making new decks from scratch. Something like the Deck Builder's Toolkit could work as an "intermediate" product, but you won't need it unless you want to build new decks and find yourself running out of usable cards. The most pressing need will be for new basic lands, and you can just buy a pile of them. If you do start buying packs, the best thing you can do to get value out of them is to play limited, where you intentionally ignore your entire existing cardpool (except perhaps for basic lands) and play only with the cards you just opened. The most typical limited format is an 8-man booster draft, but there are 2-player variants, like Winston Drafts, Solomon Drafts, and Winchester Drafts.
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Southern Heel posted:As per the thread's recommendation I'm going to pick up the Clash starter deck: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MTG-Magic-Origins-Clash-Pack-Armed-And-Dangerous-INSTOCK-/301717491190?hash=item463fc38df6 There are regular releases of duel decks and clash packs, but the reality is that the progression from a clash pack is to buying cards to move toward specific goals. It's a universally agreed upon thing in this thread that if you want to get certain cards you should just buy the singles you want instead of opening sealed packs hoping to win the lottery. That said, if you want to open packs for the experience of opening random cards that you can use to move in whatever direction they take you, go for it. If you really like the game, you might consider giving a Friday Night Magic draft a shot. You don't have to bring any cards, get to open packs and keep the cards you draft, and play with those cards. It's really fun, I draft almost every week (I just thought about how much this costs me, and wow that's a bit scary. Cube time?).
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Oct 6, 2015 09:01
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I will give FNG a go and/or drafting if I enjoy the game as much in person as I do on the computer screen - thanks.Glidergun posted:The most pressing need will be for new basic lands, and you can just buy a pile of them. Do you mean in addition to the clash pack, or in addition to getting specific spell/creature/etc. cards from a draft/ebay?
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Oct 6, 2015 10:40
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The real solution to beating all of these manabases is the imminent return of COSIS TRICKSTER 
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Oct 6, 2015 10:52
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Glidergun posted:The most pressing need will be for new basic lands, and you can just buy a pile of them.
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Oct 6, 2015 10:59
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kizudarake posted:If you have a pretty large collection that you want to pare down somewhat, where do you really start?
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Oct 6, 2015 14:05
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Yawgmoth posted:I have some specific art basic lands I'm looking for, I could GWallet you a couple bucks if you have them and are willing to ship them. Send me the list, and I'll check, but most of what I've got, RE: basics, are since New Phyrexia. Although I'm keeping the Gateway mountain from Origins and the wingerwanger island from Theros.
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Oct 6, 2015 14:11
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rabidsquid posted:The real solution to beating all of these manabases is the imminent return of COSIS TRICKSTER Don't tease me. I've got like 400 of them ready to go at any second. Kidding, not trading a damned one of them away.
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Oct 6, 2015 14:36
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rabidsquid posted:The real solution to beating all of these manabases is the imminent return of COSIS TRICKSTER Cosi's Trickster reprinted in Oath, Bant Hardened Scales wins the Pro Tour, Rhino falls by the wayside... I could dig it.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:00
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Night Danger Moose posted:Cosi's Trickster reprinted in Oath, Bant Hardened Scales wins the Pro Tour, Rhino falls by the wayside... I could dig it. I would even.. Dig through time for it.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:06
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Night Danger Moose posted:Cosi's Trickster reprinted in Oath, Bant Hardened Scales wins the Pro Tour, Rhino falls by the wayside... I could dig it.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:12
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Yawgmoth posted:Or the more likely version, "abzan goes witch-maw to run cosi's tricker beside rhino & scales, everyone cries about the deck having even more unkillable creatures." Does Rhino play hardened scales? because I cannot see a 4 color deck cutting 8 cards to make a conditional combo work.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:40
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I just want to throw it out there that there is nothing to show that dedicated 4-color/5-color decks are going to take over the meta. They can be powerful, but I think this last SCG Open showed that consistency is still the most important factor since the general power level of every deck (outside maybe Esper Dragons) has dropped significantly with rotation.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:03
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You also play Woodland Wanderer! That and Trickster make scales pretty decent in non-red, assuming we actually get Cosi's Trickster.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:04
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The Shortest Path posted:You also play Woodland Wanderer! I'm running Temur Midrange with a Prairie Stream and Canopy Vista for the sole purpose of playing Woodland Wanderer on 4 colors. Because Wanderer is pretty efficient I'd say. 
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Oct 6, 2015 17:06
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6/6 vigilance trample for 4 is disgusting, and I feel like the only reason it didn't see a ton of play immediately is because you can't Bring it to Light. But it's awesome with Hardened Scales.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:08
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Olothreutes posted:There are regular releases of duel decks and clash packs, but the reality is that the progression from a clash pack is to buying cards to move toward specific goals. It's a universally agreed upon thing in this thread that if you want to get certain cards you should just buy the singles you want instead of opening sealed packs hoping to win the lottery. That said, if you want to open packs for the experience of opening random cards that you can use to move in whatever direction they take you, go for it. Cube is the format of the gods so you should definitely do that but the cube thread's title is scarily accurate: the most expensive free magic you can play.
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Pontius Pilate posted:Cube is the format of the gods so you should definitely do that but the cube thread's title is scarily accurate: the most expensive free magic you can play. counterpoint: Staples exists (everyone should build a cube)
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Yeah - seriously. Please don't buy lottery-ticket boosters to get specific cards. If you want to open boosters, start drafting. First, you're going to get a chance to do more than just pay $3-$4 to rip open a pack and then toss most of the cards into a shoebox - you'll actually play with them. Second, you're technically opening 24 boosters in an 8-person draft pod - you're going to see a lot more cards. Third, by playing the cards and seeing the cards you will get better at the game overall. You'll stumble on neat interactions and be forced to come up with creative ways to solve problems as they hit the board. This post brought to you by the Committee For the Prevention of Oh-God-You-Are-Behind-On-Your-Rent-And-Your-Card-Was-Repossessed-Yet-You're-Still-Buying-Booster-Boxes-To-Get-A-Twenty-Dollar-Card.
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I want to get in on the card repossession profession. Think Repo Men and I'm the black guy not Jude Law. E: speaking of card trading there are now apps where you do nothing but open free packs and trade cards. This is how you should get your fix.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:40
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Chill la Chill posted:I want to get in on the card repossession profession. Think Repo Men and I'm the black guy not Jude Law. I'd watch Gathering: The Magic Opera.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:41
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Zoness posted:I'd watch Gathering: The Magic Opera. Luciano Pavarotti sings about his GP Richmond experience.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:43
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I think a Magic opera would be more Gilbert & Sullivan and less Pavarotti. Or maybe that's "hope" rather than "think".
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Speaking of which, I want to pick up one or two of each of the Khans fetches for my Commander and Tiny Leaders decks, is now a good time to do so, or should I wait some until rotation? Ebay says I can get a full playset of all 10 for about $400, is that a reasonable deal or should I see if I can get a better deal individually?
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Oct 6, 2015 17:50
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Magic Rabbit Hat posted:Speaking of which, I want to pick up one or two of each of the Khans fetches for my Commander and Tiny Leaders decks, is now a good time to do so, or should I wait some until rotation? Ebay says I can get a full playset of all 10 for about $400, is that a reasonable deal or should I see if I can get a better deal individually? If that eBay deal is legit, that's a great deal, depending on the condition of the cards.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:53
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$10 a fetch is a good deal considering the blue ones are around twenty now and I don't think any are cheaper than ten.
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Magic Rabbit Hat posted:Speaking of which, I want to pick up one or two of each of the Khans fetches for my Commander and Tiny Leaders decks, is now a good time to do so, or should I wait some until rotation? Ebay says I can get a full playset of all 10 for about $400, is that a reasonable deal or should I see if I can get a better deal individually? Your paying 10 bucks a pop for your fetches. Going of TCG low (never go off mid). Windswept is about 11 right now. Bloodstained is 14. Flooded Strand is 18 dollars. Wooded Foothills is 15. Polluted Delta is 20. If they are giving you a playset of the Zendikar fetches, then that is an insane deal. Your still saving some just with Khans fetches.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:58
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Ah no, my mistake, it's just the 5 Khans fetches, not the Zen ones.
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qbert posted:If that eBay deal is legit, that's a great deal, depending on the condition of the cards. Having seen the deal he's talking about. The condition is listed, and they have the little hologram so they probably aren't the new fakes that are super hard to tell. It's 420 though. Still it's about a 30 to 50 percent savings.
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Zurai posted:I think a Magic opera would be more Gilbert & Sullivan and less Pavarotti. Or maybe that's "hope" rather than "think". " I am the very model of a modern magic player..."
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Zoness posted:I'd watch Gathering: The Magic Opera. I really hope this is a Repo! The Genetic Opera reference? I feel like you could definitely equate Largo's kids to different Mtg player types 
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Magic Rabbit Hat posted:Ah no, my mistake, it's just the 5 Khans fetches, not the Zen ones. Well, 4*5 is 20, And 400/20 is 20, so $20 apiece for the khans fetches isn't a deal I would jump on. 3 of them are less than $15.
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AmericanGeeksta posted:I really hope this is a Repo! The Genetic Opera reference? Of course it is. With songs like Happiness is Not an Equipped Butcher's Cleaver, Infected (this one named itself), and Let the Rhino Rise.
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Goddamnit now that poo poo is stuck in my head.
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