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Will, and should, escape mode have the player attend to bodily needs? (Eating, sleeping, toilet, shower.) Or do those just get set aside as soon as the player takes over a prisoner?
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Oct 5, 2015 08:53
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You don't take one over, you get delivered as a new one.
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Oct 5, 2015 12:37
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KillHour posted:You don't take one over, you get delivered as a new one. Yes, except for when you hire companions. It seems that does kick out the normal regime-following AI and have them just blindly follow you around.
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Oct 5, 2015 12:46
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Which I think is a major problem. If they're not going to enforce the regime on you at all, you ought to at least have needs so that you've got to balance your escapes against, y'know, starving to death.
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Oct 5, 2015 16:39
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It's seems to me that it's supposed to be a quick fun bonus thing rather than the point of the entire game. 
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Oct 6, 2015 15:54
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Unpopular opinion here, but I would prefer if these guys worked on the AI and the sim and gently caress Escape Mode. The staff AI still fails to have the closest non-working staff do jobs. That's like a massive piece of AI code that needs to be ironed out. Escape Mode looks whatever, the sim is amazing. Let's get that done first, Mark.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:14
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PantsFreeZone posted:Unpopular opinion here, but I would prefer if these guys worked on the AI and the sim and gently caress Escape Mode. My thoughts exactly. Escape mode just seems like a silly fun thing to do from time to time. Improving it would be great of course, but not at expense of the sim elements.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:21
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Does the 700 megabyte DLC of .wav files add anything in game itself?
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Oct 6, 2015 17:54
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PantsFreeZone posted:Unpopular opinion here That's the status quo, almost everyone agrees with you, opinion.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:55
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I'm playing this now after a two year hiatus. I think I broke the tutorial; the game was telling me to build a laundry when I'd already done it and I think I broke the scripting. 
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Oct 6, 2015 18:34
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Escape Mode is awesome. After 10 minutes I had three guys who could punch their cell doors off with a single hit and cause everyone around them to kick off as well.
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Oct 6, 2015 18:34
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FadedReality posted:Escape Mode is awesome. After 10 minutes I had three guys who could punch their cell doors off with a single hit and cause everyone around them to kick off as well. See, this is why I can't wait to get home from work and play escape mode. gently caress escaping, I just want to make all my prisoners go apeshit.
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Oct 6, 2015 18:46
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Why Escape when you can basically Own the prison?
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Oct 6, 2015 18:48
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Once all the guards and staff are dead, I WILL own the prison 
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Oct 6, 2015 19:42
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Isn't that just the normal game at that point?
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Oct 6, 2015 19:54
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KillHour posted:Isn't that just the normal game at that point? Yes, except now when the visitors show up I can hit them with a broken broom stick.
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Oct 6, 2015 20:02
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 Got out of a random 5 star prison within 6 hours without drawing any attention to myself and I merely get 10 points.
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Oct 6, 2015 22:23
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How are you meant to use Riot Cops? I'm on mission 3 at the start, sent them into an area, and they all get wiped out. Is there a trick to it?
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Oct 6, 2015 23:16
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Why is the performance still so hosed? I was hoped this would be fixed for the full release. I have a apocalyptically good computer, but i get like like sub 20fps after reaching somewhere between 150-200 (and there are achievements for 1000+ prisoners), is it just me? Are they acknowledging the performance problems?
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Oct 6, 2015 23:47
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Tasers are so wonderfully powerful. Once you get one, it's so easy to stockpile them in cells around yours. Tase an armed guard and you're set.
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Oct 7, 2015 00:05
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Dongattack posted:Why is the performance still so hosed? I was hoped this would be fixed for the full release. I have a apocalyptically good computer, but i get like like sub 20fps after reaching somewhere between 150-200 (and there are achievements for 1000+ prisoners), is it just me? Are they acknowledging the performance problems? Pathing is the biggest thing I've found kills FPS. I have an amazing rig and before it would screech to a halt after 500 staff + prisoners, but now my prison can get to 1200 total souls roaming around doing poo poo, and it still runs fairly fast. The trick (for me) is to have only 2 canteens and have them close enough to the DELIVERY that you don't have to swamp the prison in cooks and workmen. Another tip is to utilize pressure plates for interior security doors wherever possible and non-hazardous (ie: I use them for the doors out of storage rooms, kitchens, etc). Removing some of the remote jobs helps stabilize the sim's FPS as well.
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Oct 7, 2015 01:16
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Dongattack posted:Why is the performance still so hosed? I was hoped this would be fixed for the full release. I have a apocalyptically good computer, but i get like like sub 20fps after reaching somewhere between 150-200 (and there are achievements for 1000+ prisoners), is it just me? Are they acknowledging the performance problems? Define "apocalyptically good". I've got a "good" computer, with i5 4570k, 8GB decent ram and 760GTX, and it won't really lag until I get to the 500's of prisoners and appropriate number of staff.
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Oct 7, 2015 01:17
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well, I successfully did it for the first time. Murdered all the guards in a prison and basically walked out. Granted, it was my terrible first prison where you could pretty much just grab a drill, screwdriver, or hacksaw anywhere because I had "closets" all around. Second successful escape went hilariously well. Did a little grind to get 2 guys to near max reputations. Started a fight with the guards. Murdered like 20 before the armed guards showed up. Once they showed up, I killed them too. Once I killed them, it was a blood bath and I annhilated the whole prison. I blew up the power generator early on, so it was like the police department scene in Terminator 1. Ended up with 1362 points
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Oct 7, 2015 01:23
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Today I learned:
 Yeah, I had way more victims than that. Here is my prison, I challenge you all to find any other way out.
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Oct 7, 2015 02:47
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Absorbs Smaller Goons posted:Define "apocalyptically good". I've got a "good" computer, with i5 4570k, 8GB decent ram and 760GTX, and it won't really lag until I get to the 500's of prisoners and appropriate number of staff. I can't remember the stats right now and I'm phoneposting. I nerd up pretty much every interesting game/AAA title that comes out and the only thing that dips below 60fps are these indie Unity games. Even that lovely Batman port was fine. Oh and Dwarf Fortress, but Dwarf Fortress isn't a game, it's LIFE I'm guessing that it's the fact that all these CPU intensive games don't make use of multiple cores for some gay reason, Toady can be excused cause he is insane and probably only NASA computers had multiple cores when DF was coded, but in a recent game it's kinda poo poo.
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Oct 7, 2015 03:29
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Programming for multiple cores is HARD. Like really really hard. The program has to be built from the ground up with that in mind.
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Oct 7, 2015 04:16
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Dongattack posted:Why is the performance still so hosed? I was hoped this would be fixed for the full release. I have a apocalyptically good computer, but i get like like sub 20fps after reaching somewhere between 150-200 (and there are achievements for 1000+ prisoners), is it just me? Are they acknowledging the performance problems? There's something wrong on your end because sub 20 fps with less than 200 prisoners is like really bad.
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Oct 7, 2015 04:19
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A few things I learned about escape mode today: -You can steal lighters from the psychologist's office -Guards are afraid of fire and will stop trying to arrest you if you are too close to one. -Most prisons don't have sprinklers -AI wardens cannot rebuild walls destroyed by fire (destroyed objects are repaired by workmen however) And lastly, the AI warden can put you in permanent lockdown
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Oct 7, 2015 08:25
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Met posted:
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CapnAndy posted:Today I learned:   Ran around for a bit trying to find poo poo at first and recruited some dudes. Once we found some gear we started to gently caress poo poo up.   With my super-badass rep I recruited a larger gang and made a push for it. Everything got kind of hosed up at the gate. While some ran straight for the escape, others hung around the gate fighting Guards.This causes a bunch of them to get tased but from the massive murderfest on the way out most of the Guards were still busy (or lack of them) that all but one recovered and ran off.  Here is Kallens murdering the poor Guard that was hanging around in his cell. Grabbed the keys and just ran off.  Pro Escape tip: Drill with Deadly is OP as gently caress.
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Oct 7, 2015 09:18
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CapnAndy posted:
"We really wanted to make it uncomfortable to use death row. To really contemplate taking another's life" *Scores you more for massacring everyone you can*
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Oct 7, 2015 09:45
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GameDevs.txt
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Redczar posted:"We really wanted to make it uncomfortable to use death row. To really contemplate taking another's life" The Good Fight.
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Oct 7, 2015 14:58
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CapnAndy posted:Today I learned:   e: Sprinklers aren't just for kitchen and power generator anymore and you can no longer use buildings on the edge of the map to save space/slow down tunneling. DeepQantas fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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Oct 7, 2015 16:09
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CapnAndy posted:Yeah, I had way more victims than that. The greatest oversight is no scrollbar on the victims section.
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Oct 7, 2015 16:12
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Away all Goats posted:-You can steal lighters from the psychologist's office
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Oct 7, 2015 16:27
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 The drill might be a little overpowered.
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Oct 7, 2015 21:27
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Nah it's meant to be able to pierce the heavens(Or at least send a ton of guards there)
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Oct 7, 2015 21:36
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Showerheads are OP. 2 rep for one punch and showers often don't have guards. Almost as good as setting things on fire through the wall. e. So what's the best digging tool? Seems like most important number is total digging done before breaking, since smuggling items is the real hassle, not the speed. DeepQantas fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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I need to try to escape via a method that isn't "Murder my way to the door". I didn't even remember digging was an option. Is there any way to sleep in your bed or anything to get through the "sleep" portion of the regime?
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