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trickybiscuits
Jan 13, 2008

yospos

Bertrand Hustle posted:

Weird fuckers with no boundaries.
drat yeah.

One thing I've been doing recently is not take people up on their attempts to start conversations in public. I feel guilty about it when they seem sort of disappointed that I'm not interested. But I also feel really good to have boundaries and poo poo. Buddy, one of us is coming out of this attempted conversation unhappy, and this time it's not me.

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Maggie Fletcher
Jul 19, 2009
Getting brunch is more important to me than other peoples lives.
Today's peeve is brought to you by...me, really, as it is all my fault.

Speaking of no boundaries, there have been constant problems with our stakeholders at work. They plow into our offices regardless of if we're on the phone or with someone or have our door shut or are otherwise busy. I've been confronted in the bathroom with "WHERE'S MY CONTRACT?!" and hugged, literally full-on hugged, by a stakeholder in the cafeteria by someone who wanted to beg me to prioritize her work over others'.

My boss has put the kibosh on people doing stuff like this, going so far as to implement a policy wherein if they ask us to prioritize or rush something, we have to send it back to them and have their department head discuss it with ours to determine if it actually is high priority (hint: it never is, it's just people submit their poo poo too late). When they do this, it ends up taking them longer because department heads are hard to get to sometimes. This policy is starting to have positive effects, but there is one group of stakeholders who I swear think their work is most important (and honestly, their work IS what drives the company so they have to be handled with kid gloves). Here is a typical workday for me.

Assistant (ccing Person 1 and Person 2): Hey can you send this to Bob?
Me (reply all): Sure, just did
Person 1 (on the phone): hey, did you send that thing to Bob?
Me: yes
Person 2 (via email): Hey can you confirm that you sent this to Bob?

This happened three times last week, one of which was Friday, when I was sick and told them I wasn't going to be in that day.

And it's my own fault because I don't know how to say no to them. I email them back on my days off, I email them back late at night, I pick up the phone when they call me at 7 pm and I'm at work late trying to get something done because they've loving pestered me all day. Today I shut my door so they would leave me alone and not five minutes later I see one of them bobbing and waving to try to get my attention, and my stupid rear end opens the door.

So basically, my pet peeve is myself not drawing boundaries--and enforcing them--to people who have no respect for boundaries.

walrusman
Aug 4, 2006

Maggie Fletcher posted:

Assistant (ccing Person 1 and Person 2): Hey can you send this to Bob?
Me (reply all): Sure, just did
Person 1 (on the phone): hey, did you send that thing to Bob?
Me: yes
Person 2 (via email): Hey can you confirm that you sent this to Bob?


This gave me 'Nam-style flashbacks.

My boss is not in great health, stressed as hell, has too many people reporting to her, and too much scrutiny directed at her. The result is that she has these furious bouts of panic-managing.

Joe (cc boss): Hey walrusman, can you do X for me?
Me (reply all): Sure, done.

[an hour later]

Boss: OMG walrusman you need to do X for Joe.
Me: I know, I did.
Boss: It's just that X is a very important project and Joe is a critical resource so we need to keep him happy.
Me: I know. Like I said, it's done.
Boss: Okay well if you need help getting X done, let me know right away.
Me: But it's d...okay. I'll let you know.

Maggie Fletcher
Jul 19, 2009
Getting brunch is more important to me than other peoples lives.
I thought of another one. When people on Facebook say something like "oh my mom is sick again please keep her in your thoughts" and people answer "prayers." No thoughtful "I'll be thinking of her," or "please let me know if I can do anything," or "oh I'm so sorry, PM me if you need to talk." All of which are perfectly empty sentiments, but they at least take a little effort, and if the person took them up on the offer, I'm sure they'd oblige. But people just say "prayers." I'm not religious, but do any of these people actually sit down and say a prayer for the person? It's about as thoughtful as a "like." It's an irrational irritation, for sure, but it bugs me. I can't comment on the person doing the asking, because when you're going through a hard time you want support, but the laziness of a one-word comment (and almost never any kind of punctuation, even) without even an offer of help or sympathy is really annoying to me. If this person is close enough to you that you'll offer a prayer to them, at least send them a message of condolence/hope/offer of help, or if you say you're going to pray, at least do.

And maybe they do, and I'm just cynical, but I doubt any of them put any thought into the person after they've made their comment.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

Maggie Fletcher posted:

Today I shut my door so they would leave me alone and not five minutes later I see one of them bobbing and waving to try to get my attention, and my stupid rear end opens the door.

Something like this happening to me was the only time I've ever become visibly enraged in a work environment. I was a property manager for a complex with 50 units, and I had a lot of work to do before the close of the month, so I stayed late one night to get caught up. It was probably 8:00 P.M. when I hear pounding on the front door. I ignored it for a while and it stopped, then immediately started again--on my office window. "I see you in there, hey, open up!" I recognized the voice as one of my new tenants. "We're closed. If it's an emergency, call the police," I yelled through the closed window like a goober. He wouldn't relent, so (mainly to make him stop bugging me) I unlocked the front door to see what was so urgent. It couldn't have been a maintenance emergency, because there was a separate line straight to our maintenance staff that you could call 24/7. He runs around to the front, pokes his head in the front door and says:

"Hey, what was my monthly rent again?"

Another peeve: When journalists leave out the location on the dateline of an online story, or leave out the loving dateline completely. I read a lot of news online for both work and fun, and it drives me nuts when an article reads something like this:

quote:

STUDENT ARRESTED FOR HAVING INTERCOURSE WITH A COW

[dateline should loving go here but where is it???]

Authorities say 21-year-old resident Joe Smith was arrested on Saturday, following calls from concerned passers-by who saw what they believed to be someone having sex with a cow. Sheriff Nick Jones says Smith is a student at a local community college...

Where did this happen? WHO THE gently caress KNOWS?

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


MORE COMPLAIN? MORE COMPLAIN

1) Coming up to me, gesturing to me to remove my earphones and then telling me to, "Smile, honey" is 100x more likely to make me not smile. If you're really so concerned about my happiness, buy a King Charles Cavalier, put it in a hot dog costume and then we'll talk.

2) Baby boomer aged people who get really agitated and impatient in public, like in the line at the post office or at a restaurant, and then turn to you and start yelling about how lovely the employees there are, and keep talking as if they expect you to participate in their passive aggressive bullshit. Lady, baby boomers are the reason I have to work in lovely, low-end jobs to make ends meet, so believe me, I will not be engaging you in a conversation about how the lone, fifteen year old coffee shop employee is not living up to your loving standards.

3) BABY BOOMERS IN GENERAL

4) You know when you're walking down the street and someone is walking right towards you and instead of moving to the side, or even doing that little dance where you both figure out where to go? Some people stop dead in their tracks and stare at some unfixed point in the distance and just stand there. This happens like four times a day and I don't understand it, but it gets to me.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this

cash crab posted:

2) Baby boomer aged people who get really agitated and impatient in public, like in the line at the post office or at a restaurant, and then turn to you and start yelling about how lovely the employees there are, and keep talking as if they expect you to participate in their passive aggressive bullshit. Lady, baby boomers are the reason I have to work in lovely, low-end jobs to make ends meet, so believe me, I will not be engaging you in a conversation about how the lone, fifteen year old coffee shop employee is not living up to your loving standards.

I work at a long-stay cancer home, and our clientele is like, 90% baby boomers. Some of them are really nice, and a lot of the non-baby-boomers are crabby shitpots too, but there's something really special about the way a baby boomer gets nitpicky and grumpy that totally rubs me the wrong way. They might as well be wearing a big sign that says "WARNING: ENTITLED", which would at least allow me to be prepared for the inevitable tantrum about limited parking.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I hate stupid questions in response to doing something unusual. I went to see The Marriage of Figaro last night at my local cinema (being streamed worldwide from the Royal Opera House :3:) and was telling my colleagues how good it was, and some were interested because it was unusual, but one of them couldn't help but ask the loving million-dollar question. Say it With Me Now:

What did you do that for?

Not "Why that particular opera?". Nothing intelligent. Just the most retarded, anti-intellectual standby he could think of. I just said "Because I wanted to, duh" but I internally was like "Well a mugger strapped a timebomb to my right testicle and was told that it would go off in 5 hours if I didn't go watch and opera RIGHT NOW! Why do you think, jackass?"

Such an annoying question...

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


BioEnchanted posted:

I hate stupid questions in response to doing something unusual. I went to see The Marriage of Figaro last night at my local cinema (being streamed worldwide from the Royal Opera House :3:) and was telling my colleagues how good it was, and some were interested because it was unusual, but one of them couldn't help but ask the loving million-dollar question. Say it With Me Now:

What did you do that for?

Not "Why that particular opera?". Nothing intelligent. Just the most retarded, anti-intellectual standby he could think of. I just said "Because I wanted to, duh" but I internally was like "Well a mugger strapped a timebomb to my right testicle and was told that it would go off in 5 hours if I didn't go watch and opera RIGHT NOW! Why do you think, jackass?"

Such an annoying question...

Wait, so it was a live feed of an opera? That's neat!

ANOTHER: When you say or do anything out of the ordinary and some gently caress goes, "Ha, whatever you're on, I want two," or some variation of that.

I am very crabby and I have endless fodder for this thread, I am sorry.

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer

cash crab posted:

ANOTHER: When you say or do anything out of the ordinary and some gently caress goes, "Ha, whatever you're on, I want two," or some variation of that.
This same response, only it's whinier and said when you've said or done something that implies you're in a good mood when they're not.

I am also chronically cranky.

trickybiscuits
Jan 13, 2008

yospos

cash crab posted:

MORE COMPLAIN? MORE COMPLAIN

1) Coming up to me, gesturing to me to remove my earphones and then telling me to, "Smile, honey" is 100x more likely to make me not smile. If you're really so concerned about my happiness, buy a King Charles Cavalier, put it in a hot dog costume and then we'll talk.

2) Baby boomer aged people who get really agitated and impatient in public, like in the line at the post office or at a restaurant, and then turn to you and start yelling about how lovely the employees there are, and keep talking as if they expect you to participate in their passive aggressive bullshit. Lady, baby boomers are the reason I have to work in lovely, low-end jobs to make ends meet, so believe me, I will not be engaging you in a conversation about how the lone, fifteen year old coffee shop employee is not living up to your loving standards.
I'm female but have never gotten much of the "Smile!" stuff, maybe because I'm not that attractive. I don't understand why people do that. Do they think it makes others feel better? Brightens other people's day? If they want to make others feel better, why don't they do something funny or nice instead of basically just saying "Appear happier"?

I spent a couple of hours at the DMV recently ,which was weird because the DMV near me is usually really good, but there was something wrong with the system and it wasn't bringing up a certain type of ticket. A woman who was a little ahead of me was really upset about it, was complaining to other people (and nobody), and walked out about thirty seconds before her number was called. I found that amusing. I am an rear end in a top hat.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money
"Just get a job!"
I have a job, but I've been looking for a second and it's been surprisingly hard to find one that has hours I can work with, and people who find out I'm looking for a job assume that means I'm unemployed. Older people always give me the amazing sagelike advice of "Just get a job" "Just put an application in". I really, really want to tell them to gently caress off and that just because they've had a job for over ten years and that's how easy it was to get a job when they were looking for one, or because a friend got them their job doesn't mean I can just walk up to someone and go "Hey give me a job" and get one now. Literally nowhere within a four hour trip is hiring right now.

Rabbit Hill
Mar 11, 2009

God knows what lives in me in place of me.
Grimey Drawer
This is how my aunt initiates a text conversation with me:

quote:

Rabbit!!!

Like she's yelling my name down the street to get me to come in for dinner, or she's on fire and crying for help. Like a text with just my name and three exclamation marks is more effective at getting me to hear it and respond than just saying whatever it is she wants to say.

It's never an emergency. It's always something trivial or even nice, like, "We're making pizza -- want to come over?" Or "Hey, those apples you like are back in stock at the grocery store." She just wants to put me through the paces of responding to her before she'll actually tell me what's going on.

She also tries to make me the middleman all the goddamn time, for no reason. Like, "text your brother and tell him we'll be late." WTF NO YOU TEXT HIM. YOU HAVE HIS NUMBER. YOU ARE ON SPEAKING TERMS. WHY DON'T YOU DO IT.

Parasol Prophet
Aug 31, 2012

We Are Best Friends Now.

Nuebot posted:

"Just get a job!"
I have a job, but I've been looking for a second and it's been surprisingly hard to find one that has hours I can work with, and people who find out I'm looking for a job assume that means I'm unemployed. Older people always give me the amazing sagelike advice of "Just get a job" "Just put an application in". I really, really want to tell them to gently caress off and that just because they've had a job for over ten years and that's how easy it was to get a job when they were looking for one, or because a friend got them their job doesn't mean I can just walk up to someone and go "Hey give me a job" and get one now. Literally nowhere within a four hour trip is hiring right now.

Oh god, I hate getting job-hunting advice from older people because it's always something like "Why don't you just go to the store/office and ask to speak to the manager?" Because okay, that may be a sound strategy in 1975, but if I go into a business now and do that, I'm going to (a) be directed to the Careers page on their website, or (b) be informed that they're not really hiring right now, but here's a paper application that I can fill out and bring back for them to ignore.

And then the weeks of "Well, did you put an application in? Have you heard back yet? Did you call them back? I can't believe they're just ignoring you...."

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
The idea that because I am a woman, if I disagree with a man, it's because I'm on the rag, I hate all men, I'm a bulldyke, I need to get hosed into a good mood, or I'm some fat worthless girl who henpecks her husband to spinelessness.

It can't just be a debate. It can't be that you're wrong. It's because I am a woman and you are a man and I just only act on emotion and can't understand logic.

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

People (and things) who utterly refuse to say anything bad for any reason. This pops up a fair bit but the most recent example is the WiFi on my phone. There are four levels, I think "excellent", "very good", "good" and "fair", but "fair" is so loving bad the phone can't even maintain the connection for more than a second. That shouldn't even be showing up on the list, let alone be called fair. Who the gently caress are you going to offend by calling the connection to the free WiFi in the cafe across the road "poor"?

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

AlphaKretin posted:

People (and things) who utterly refuse to say anything bad for any reason. This pops up a fair bit but the most recent example is the WiFi on my phone. There are four levels, I think "excellent", "very good", "good" and "fair", but "fair" is so loving bad the phone can't even maintain the connection for more than a second. That shouldn't even be showing up on the list, let alone be called fair. Who the gently caress are you going to offend by calling the connection to the free WiFi in the cafe across the road "poor"?

Probably not the same thing but this crops up a lot in artist circles, people tend to be very anti-criticism so even the kindest most well intentioned advice to help someone who just asked "Anyone have any advice to help me get better" will be met with rage, tears and drama while the person who suggested something as simple as "practice drawing real life figures to work on your anatomy and shading to avoid characters looking flat and wrongly proportioned" gets characterized as a nazi-like villain and banned or, as I've seen in some real life situations, kicked out and ostracized by people who usually pat themselves on the back over how professional and accepting they are.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

AlphaKretin posted:

People (and things) who utterly refuse to say anything bad for any reason. This pops up a fair bit but the most recent example is the WiFi on my phone. There are four levels, I think "excellent", "very good", "good" and "fair", but "fair" is so loving bad the phone can't even maintain the connection for more than a second. That shouldn't even be showing up on the list, let alone be called fair. Who the gently caress are you going to offend by calling the connection to the free WiFi in the cafe across the road "poor"?

Same but for corporate work. "Ah, this is an opportunity to succeed!". Bitch, no, we just lost $1000 in sales because of a system issue. Being honest about the terrible problem we had isnt' being "negative", its being real and giving a serious problem the gravity that is due. I swear, so many things go unfixed, unmodified, or otherwise fester in a negative way because people refuse to be objective about how good or bad something is.

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

Man I'm just full of dumb ones. It really bothers me when people talking about plagiarism mention "cutting and pasting" from Wikipedia or whatever. It's not cutting unless it deletes the original text and you can't do that to web pages, goddamnit. The entire problem you're talking about is copying other people's work, what makes so many people default to cut? Are people thinking about physically cutting information out of books? Is that a thing that ever actually happened?

AlphaKretin has a new favorite as of 02:33 on Oct 8, 2015

artsy fartsy
May 10, 2014

You'll be ahead instead of behind. Hello!

AlphaKretin posted:

Man I'm just full of dumb ones. It really bothers me when people talking about plagiarism mention "cutting and pasting" from Wikipedia or whatever. It's not cutting unless it deletes the original text and you can't do that to web pages, goddamnit. The entire problem you're talking about is copying other people's work, what makes so many people default to cut? Are people thinking about physically cutting information out of books? Is that a thing that ever every happened?

It probably came from the older newsletter industry, where you would literally cut articles and headlines out and paste them down with wax.

But yeah, that still doesn't work in the context of plagairism.

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer
Academic infighting about whether STEM or humanities is more valuable or intrinsically more good. It's the dumbest loving argument on both sides.

lidnsya
Nov 14, 2007
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-lidnsya.jpg"><br>All aboard the sleepy train!
This is a really weird one I remembered today.

I can't stand people eating apples in public. Some guy on the bus was eating one today and it really pissed me off.
If I see that someone has an apple sitting on their desk or whatever or eating one at lunch, it grosses me out.
It's only apples, no other fruit bothers me like that.
It doesn't bother me if the apple is cut up and they are eating it in segments.

I personally love apples and would have no problem eating one in public myself, though I don't think I ever have.

gentle pete
Feb 21, 2015

by Nyc_Tattoo

lidnsya posted:

This is a really weird one I remembered today.

I can't stand people eating apples in public. Some guy on the bus was eating one today and it really pissed me off.
If I see that someone has an apple sitting on their desk or whatever or eating one at lunch, it grosses me out.
It's only apples, no other fruit bothers me like that.
It doesn't bother me if the apple is cut up and they are eating it in segments.

I personally love apples and would have no problem eating one in public myself, though I don't think I ever have.

I don't mind apples, but I feel the same way when I see someone eating cup noodles or canned soup in public. I often see college students doing this on the bus or while walking around, it just seems horribly inconvenient and messy.

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

People who hammer the buttons at road crossings if the little man doesn't immediately turn green. I've seen someone do it as cars were driving immediately in front of him, even. Of course the light hasn't turned green, you impatient moron, the entire loving point is that it tells you when it's safe to cross ie when there aren't any goddamn cars passing! At least he wasn't just jaywalking I suppose.

Actually just chalk me up for impatience in general.

Thin Privilege
Jul 8, 2009
IM A STUPID MORON WITH AN UGLY FACE AND A BIG BUTT AND MY BUTT SMELLS AND I LIKE TO KISS MY OWN BUTT
Gravy Boat 2k

lidnsya posted:

This is a really weird one I remembered today.

I can't stand people eating apples in public. Some guy on the bus was eating one today and it really pissed me off.
If I see that someone has an apple sitting on their desk or whatever or eating one at lunch, it grosses me out.
It's only apples, no other fruit bothers me like that.
It doesn't bother me if the apple is cut up and they are eating it in segments.

I personally love apples and would have no problem eating one in public myself, though I don't think I ever have.

I have this exact same issue with apples, but even more so I can't eat an apple unless I cut it up, I can't bite into it because if I do I get nauseous. It makes no sense. Maybe it's the slimy crunch sound, and how all the juice goes all over the person's face, and they're crunching away all obliviously.

gently caress apples. (Except apple pie)


Not related, but how in every sporting event people have to clap/slap their knees to the intro to We Will Rock You by Queen. Like every 5 minutes 5 seconds and especially when the team is losing or whatever it's boom boom CLAP! Boom boom CLAP! I doubt most of these people even know what the actual song is.

And obviously ~we are the championssssss~ whenever a team wins. Bonus hatred if it's some drunk assholes sing-talking about their team's win.

E: I've had We are the champions stuck in my head since I posted this. Goddamnit.

Thin Privilege has a new favorite as of 05:22 on Oct 8, 2015

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


lidnsya posted:

This is a really weird one I remembered today.

I can't stand people eating apples in public. Some guy on the bus was eating one today and it really pissed me off.
If I see that someone has an apple sitting on their desk or whatever or eating one at lunch, it grosses me out.
It's only apples, no other fruit bothers me like that.
It doesn't bother me if the apple is cut up and they are eating it in segments.

I personally love apples and would have no problem eating one in public myself, though I don't think I ever have.

I'm sorry, but this made me laugh really hard.

"lidnsya, what really gets your goat?"
"<:mad:> APPLES"

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

cash crab posted:

I'm sorry, but this made me laugh really hard.

"lidnsya, what really gets your goat?"
"<:mad:> APPLES"

It seems to be a reoccurring trigger on SA.

I brought my Drake
Jul 10, 2014

These high-G injections have some serious side effects after pulling so many jumps.

AlphaKretin posted:

Are people thinking about physically cutting information out of books? Is that a thing that ever actually happened?

Happens to library materials sometimes, not as often as it used to. Mostly people removing images. Some magazines live behind the desk at my library because people used to steal them, now people borrow them for in-house use and tear out what they want. End of the month, they look kinda skeletal.

My related pet peeve: people cannibalizing old books for art projects. You wouldn't slap a coat of paint on antique furniture--why would you want to take apart an antique book?

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

queserasera posted:

My related pet peeve: people cannibalizing old books for art projects. You wouldn't slap a coat of paint on antique furniture--why would you want to take apart an antique book?

Augh I can't even think about losing something irreplaceable. Be it a house burning down, a careless shithead ruining an antique or even just losing hours of save data in a video game with some level of randomisation, the thought makes me feel ill.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


AlphaKretin posted:

Man I'm just full of dumb ones. It really bothers me when people talking about plagiarism mention "cutting and pasting" from Wikipedia or whatever. It's not cutting unless it deletes the original text and you can't do that to web pages, goddamnit. The entire problem you're talking about is copying other people's work, what makes so many people default to cut? Are people thinking about physically cutting information out of books? Is that a thing that ever actually happened?
Physically cutting things out and gluing them onto something else is where the term comes from. Why do you think we use "cut" to mean "send to clipboard"?

AlphaKretin posted:

People who hammer the buttons at road crossings if the little man doesn't immediately turn green. I've seen someone do it as cars were driving immediately in front of him, even. Of course the light hasn't turned green, you impatient moron, the entire loving point is that it tells you when it's safe to cross ie when there aren't any goddamn cars passing! At least he wasn't just jaywalking I suppose.

Actually just chalk me up for impatience in general.
I do that, but not out of impatience. It's just something to do. It also amuses me that people find it so annoying.

queserasera posted:

people cannibalizing old books for art projects. You wouldn't slap a coat of paint on antique furniture--why would you want to take apart an antique book?
Sure I would, if it would better suit my needs that way. If it was worth money I'd actually probably sell it to whatever idiot thinks paying ridiculous prices for old stuff is a good idea and get something cheaper, but if it's not worth selling and I can get some use out of it I'll do whatever will make it worth something to me.

And people being all precious about books irritates me. They're just containers for words, they're not magic. If I don't have a bookmark, I'll tear off a bit of a page. I'll leave books lying around, I'll throw them across the room. I'll read a book and get rid of it. If I know someone who wants it, I'll give it to them. If not, I'll give it to an op shop. I know tons of people who have massive shelves of books they'll never read, and I don't get it. You are storing garbage.

AlphaKretin posted:

Augh I can't even think about losing something irreplaceable. Be it a house burning down, a careless shithead ruining an antique or even just losing hours of save data in a video game with some level of randomisation, the thought makes me feel ill.
Books aren't irreplaceable. Nor are houses. Or furniture. Your house burning down would be terrible, but not because the house was intrinsically valuable. It's bad because you've got nowhere to live and have to move or rebuild or whatever.

Parasol Prophet
Aug 31, 2012

We Are Best Friends Now.
I don't get people who freak out about art projects using books, either. If it's an antique I understand-- I'm the weird kind of person who likes having old things around even if they're not much use. Old stuff is neat, old books are cool. But I remember once there was some video where somebody cut up the Series of Unfortunate Events books and used the spines to make a shelf or something, and people just lost it like "Oh my god those poor books! How could you ever do that to BOOKS, I'm going to cry, why wouldn't you just donate them or something if you're not going to read them YOU ARE DESTROYING KNOWLEDGE!"

Which, firstly, those books are not rare. It's not like we live in the 1600s and there's only one copy of each book in the entire state and if it gets destroyed we'll forever lose the knowledge that was written there. These books are still in print. I have the whole set in my room at home collecting dust. We have plenty of books.

Secondly, donating books is a great idea as long as you're in an area where your bookstores/libraries/thrift stores aren't already drowning in unsold books. The local used bookstore where I live has stopped accepting sales because they simply have too many and aren't selling enough to keep up. Libraries are having to throw away old, unrented books to make room for new ones-- and when they do, there's usually a few people who turn up to express their shock and horror at the idea that someone would throw books away even if they're just ragged, falling-apart old copies of Judy Blume novels and airport fiction no one reads anymore. Again, we have plenty of books.

Books are great, but they're not sacred. It annoys me to no end when people act like they are, probably because it's always younger people and so it seems to carry an overtone of "See everybody, I care about this because I read, so you can tell I'm super mature-- unlike the rest of my generation--because I still like reading books in the digital age!" (Or maybe I'm just cynical.)

Khazar-khum
Oct 22, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
2nd Battalion
People who don't understand that books are your friends, precious and meant to be loved.

Unless it's 50 Shades of Gray or Twilight.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.
Why do we have so many books? We need to get a few people to memorize them, and then burn as many copies as we can to keep the knowledge from falling into the hands of the dirty proletariat. loving Gutenberg and his loving "movable type" bullshit.

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


Screaming Idiot posted:

Why do we have so many books? We need to get a few people to memorize them, and then burn as many copies as we can to keep the knowledge from falling into the hands of the dirty proletariat. loving Gutenberg and his loving "movable type" bullshit.

No, idiot. We make one really big library, and put it in like... Egypt or something. One copy of everything. That way we only have one of everything, and what's the worst that could happen? It's gonna [burn down? Not likely.

Seriously though, I agree with Parasol. People get antsy about the destruction of books because they associate it with the destruction of knowledge. In some cases this is true, but to metaphorically assign importance to every book unnecessarily elevates a material object to an inappropriate cultural place wherein books as an object become resistant to criticism. Being unable to parse out an object's cultural significance from its significance as an object is what leads people to become obsessed with material things over ideas, which was what people are trying to protect in the first place.

I brought my Drake
Jul 10, 2014

These high-G injections have some serious side effects after pulling so many jumps.

As a librarian trained in book repair, I can tell you that popular fiction and nonfiction have poo poo for production. When I talk about keeping books out of craft time, I'm talking old books, with sewn gatherings, hand-marbled endpapers, plates with rice paper protectors, text printed from moveable type. Making 3D ornaments from a Reader's Digest condensed book? Neat. Hollowing out and laquering up an antique book for a coffee table conversation piece? You make this book mender grumpy.

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer

queserasera posted:

As a librarian trained in book repair, I can tell you that popular fiction and nonfiction have poo poo for production. When I talk about keeping books out of craft time, I'm talking old books, with sewn gatherings, hand-marbled endpapers, plates with rice paper protectors, text printed from moveable type. Making 3D ornaments from a Reader's Digest condensed book? Neat. Hollowing out and laquering up an antique book for a coffee table conversation piece? You make this book mender grumpy.
Yeah this fits my line of thought too. If it has some historical value then don't destroy it you loving Pinterest-addicted craft witch. If it's some mass-produced thing, it's still not something I'd be comfortable doing for whatever reason, but it's not like that Tom Clancy is irreplaceable.

Dr Scoofles
Dec 6, 2004

This modern craft poo poo is weak. In the Middle Ages they saw no real value in classical, pagan, texts - so super valuable one of a kind works just got wiped out, written over, cut up, used as bindings etc. A lot of what we have of the worlds most famous Latin and Greek writers came to us by sheer loving luck mostly. I'm probably wrong about the author, but I recall reading we have some work of Ovid(?) today because some medieval guy used it to glue the hosed spine on another, Christian, book.

Pet peeve. Having to think up what to cook for dinner every.loving.night. I wish humans could just live on space food capsules, or, I wish I was rich and had my own chef to cook for me.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

lidnsya posted:

This is a really weird one I remembered today.

I can't stand people eating apples in public. Some guy on the bus was eating one today and it really pissed me off.
If I see that someone has an apple sitting on their desk or whatever or eating one at lunch, it grosses me out.
It's only apples, no other fruit bothers me like that.
It doesn't bother me if the apple is cut up and they are eating it in segments.

I personally love apples and would have no problem eating one in public myself, though I don't think I ever have.

Lidnsya, how come you always cut up your apples?

Our platoon was stuck in a trench outside New Kasmir during the winter campaign...More'n'a week, completely cut off and the Alliance entrenched not ten yards away. We even got to talking with 'em, yelling across insults and jokes and such, 'cause no ammo to speak of, no orders, what are you gonna do? We mentioned we were out of rations and ten minutes later a bunch 'a apples rained into the trench.
Captain said wait, but they were so hungry. Don't make much noise, just little pops and there's three guys kinda just end at the ribcage.

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

Goons who are too lazy or scared of being banned/probated for posting a thread. Just make your loving thread, the rules are hardly enforced anymore.

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Horrible Smutbeast
Sep 2, 2011

Nuebot posted:

"Just get a job!"
I have a job, but I've been looking for a second and it's been surprisingly hard to find one that has hours I can work with, and people who find out I'm looking for a job assume that means I'm unemployed. Older people always give me the amazing sagelike advice of "Just get a job" "Just put an application in". I really, really want to tell them to gently caress off and that just because they've had a job for over ten years and that's how easy it was to get a job when they were looking for one, or because a friend got them their job doesn't mean I can just walk up to someone and go "Hey give me a job" and get one now. Literally nowhere within a four hour trip is hiring right now.

In creative fields it's amazing because 99% of the time they have HR sort through all the applications to be passed on to the art director... Which means some dumb rear end in a top hat who went to college for HR is going through applications and portfolios, having never studied art, and becoming the gatekeeper based on absurd things like whether your cover letter has all the right buzzwords they want to read in it.

On the otherhand, indie startups and studios will ask for the stupidest loving poo poo in their applications. "What board games do you like playing!?" "Please note we make humour a huge part of our workplace which actually means we're all racist and sexist and if you call us out on it we'll fire you" "What do you think about gamergate?!"

It can't ever just be that sweetspot between personal and professional.

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