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@dick_nixon is pretty on ball about the speaker election: quote:The fellow who until not long ago was majority whip -- who should know about every boyfriend, whore, and buried body -- can't get the votes.
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Welp eventually Boehner will kill himself either in a deliberate suicide or by prolonged excessive drinking/smoking so they'll have to figure something out
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Please tell me McCarthy is dropping out because he cannot string together a coherent English sentence.
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Im listening to CNN in the car and the scene they're reporting on is hilarious. "Bewildered" has been thrown around quite a bit
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So if McCarthy can't get 218, can anyone?
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Fifteen of Many posted:Jake Sherman just tweeted that McCarthy has dropped out of the speaker race. Given some of the recent rumblings I heard, it seems like there might have been some dirt that the Freedom Caucus or some other group was going to drop on him to ruin his chances anyway.
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Holy gently caress. Crazy Train is coming. Oh god, please Louie Gohmert, please toss your name into the ring
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Oct 8, 2015 17:42
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Q: Can the GOP govern? A: lol
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AhhYes posted:So if McCarthy can't get 218, can anyone? Probably not, unless everyone decides to throw their lot in with the Freedom Caucus in an election year. Seems about as likely as getting a mystical unicorn as speaker.
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AhhYes posted:So if McCarthy can't get 218, can anyone? Benghazi? Satan? Unborn Fetus #320409?
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Nancy Pelosi is gonna be speaker again.
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What about me? I'd be a pretty good speaker.
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zoux posted:Nancy Pelosi is gonna be speaker again. lol we could only hope
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:lol we could only hope If I was Joe Moderate who was interested in governance and you offered me a choice between Pelosi and whatever talking point hate golem the Tea Party offers up, it'd give me pause.
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zoux posted:If I was Joe Moderate who was interested in governance and you offered me a choice between Pelosi and whatever talking point hate golem the Tea Party offers up, it'd give me pause. There aren't, clearly, enough Joe Moderate Republicans who would be willing to commit political suicide. Like, can you imagine how /moist/ the far right would get at the idea of being able to primary a bunch of Republicans?
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AhhYes posted:So if McCarthy can't get 218, can anyone? No. Though he didn't help himself with the establishment wing by blowing the cover off the benghazi 'investigation'.
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zoux posted:If I was Joe Moderate who was interested in governance and you offered me a choice between Pelosi and whatever talking point hate golem the Tea Party offers up, it'd give me pause. How many of those guys are left in the GOP now, particularly in the House?
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What if they just re-elected Boehner again? He doesn't technically have to be running to be re-elected, does he? Which is not to say he would take the job but it would certainly be a referendum that the Republican's need him to get anything done and might embolden him to be a stronger leader and stand up to the tea party crowd.
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Does business get done without a speaker? Is everything else on hold (likr a CR to avoid the debt limit) until this gets figured out?
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nachos posted:These deep red state freedom caucus members need some sort of victory. They may eventually agree on a speaker but I'm betting it won't be McCarthy. They've staked their position and if they back out now they'll get primaried. 
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I imagine he's going to look a lot better to the bomb throwers in a week's time.
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Three Olives posted:What if they just re-elected Boehner again? He doesn't technically have to be running to be re-elected, does he? Which is not to say he would take the job but it would certainly be a referendum that the Republican's need him to get anything done and might embolden him to be a stronger leader and stand up to the tea party crowd. I think if they can't elect a Speaker he just stays Speaker.
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Monkey Fracas posted:How many of those guys are left in the GOP now, particularly in the House? Just need 30. I don't know if they have that many, though.
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zoux posted:Just need 30. I don't know if they have that many, though. Yeah I suppose the real question is how many moderates there are that are also not in deep-red districts ripe for some psychopath to step in and primary them.
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The freedom caucus just toppled McCarthy's bid and they weren't sane about the limits of their power before getting two scalps in a week. There's no path forward for the rest of the Republican I can see short of conceding to the freedom caucus or begging the Democrats to get their speaker nominee over 218. And both of those are devastating to the party.
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Monkey Fracas posted:I think if they can't elect a Speaker he just stays Speaker. That'll be hard to do if he resigns. I mean, yes, technically you could elect Blake Bortles as speaker of the house, but it'd be a really bad idea if he's not even going to show up.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Say this to literally anyone in the Army. They'll die laughing. If said with regards to most things, yeah, probably.
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Good thing there's no important work that the House needs to get done or we'd really be in a pickle!
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Ron Jeremy posted:Does business get done without a speaker? Is everything else on hold (likr a CR to avoid the debt limit) until this gets figured out? Boehner is still speaker and intends to be until the 30th. He could just jam through bills to fix the debt limit if he felt like it before then. Doubt he will, but he could.
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Good job putting these people in power America.
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There's virtually no president for this sort of situation. the last time there was a contested speakership inside a party was like the 1920's when there were very, very different rules on the process. they could, of course, change the rules so that you only need a plurality, but that could be Pyrrhic
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Monkey Fracas posted:Yeah I suppose the real question is how many moderates there are that are also not in deep-red districts ripe for some psychopath to step in and primary them. I don't actually think it'll happen, it's just kind of funny. evilweasel posted:The freedom caucus just toppled McCarthy's bid and they weren't sane about the limits of their power before getting two scalps in a week. There's no path forward for the rest of the Republican I can see short of conceding to the freedom caucus or begging the Democrats to get their speaker nominee over 218. And both of those are devastating to the party. The only thing I can think is that McCarthy gets back in once it becomes clear to the freedom caucus what they just did, I don't see how they build a consensus around Gowdy, Webster or Gohmert.
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zoux posted:The only thing I can think is that McCarthy gets back in once it becomes clear to the freedom caucus what they just did, I don't see how they build a consensus around Gowdy, Webster or Gohmert. Something bad has to happen to them for them to realize they made a mistake, and the House unable to do anything at all is sort of what they want. I can't see them being displeased with any of the potential results from this. Even though they should be, but if they had the ability to realize that they wouldn't be the freedom caucus.
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This year in politics is better than I could ever possibly have imagined, and much, much better than I deserve.
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Does the strict letter of the law prevent them from electing Reagan speaker?
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evilweasel posted:Something bad has to happen to them for them to realize they made a mistake, and the House unable to do anything at all is sort of what they want. I can't see them being displeased with any of the potential results from this. Even though they should be, but if they had the ability to realize that they wouldn't be the freedom caucus. Yeah. I honestly don't know what's gonna happen.
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James Garfield posted:Does the strict letter of the law prevent them from electing Reagan speaker? It does not.
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