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zen death robot posted:So when was the last time a major party couldn't get its poo poo together to pick a position like speaker of the house? It took nine ballots in 1923.
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OH! Kevin McCarthy isn't someone we truuuuuuuuust! OH! These liberals keeping us all on our tooooooeeeees! OH! Let's show all these moderates just what they're up against! OH! Southern MOTHERFUCKING Tortilla Coast Republicans!
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I don't think it's just tactics. I think the Tea and Tortilla people reject compromise on both tactical and ideological grounds. And the establishment people disagree on that.
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Oct 8, 2015 18:27
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zen death robot posted:So when was the last time a major party couldn't get its poo poo together to pick a position like speaker of the house? 1923 took 9 ballots, 1855 took 133.
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Bob Ojeda posted:I don't think it's just tactics. I think the Tea and Tortilla people reject compromise on both tactical and ideological grounds. And the establishment people disagree on that. They absolutely do. I was listening to an NPR interview with an out going senator, I think it was Dan Coats, where he said that the Tea Party cannot find a path to yes. There's no horse trading, no concessions you can make to get them to hold their nose and vote yes, they simply cannot be negotiated with.
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Oct 8, 2015 18:29
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I was sitting in the base ID office getting a new CAC card when this popped up on CNN, and I nearly flipped my poo poo. I literally said "Holy poo poo, McCarthy is dropping out of the Speaker race?! This isn't good." and a dude in the waiting room heard me, and locked eyes with me with a "I feel ya, brother" look on his face. This is going to be...uhhhhgg, I don't want to think about it. 
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Oct 8, 2015 18:36
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quote:Rep. Tom Rooney, R-Fla., said the meeting opened, Republicans said the Pledge and then McCarthy stood up and took himself out of the race. The prohibitive favorite said he didn't want members to take arrows for voting for him and that he was taking himself out of contention.
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Oct 8, 2015 18:36
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I'm glad "Dick Cheney to endorse Kevin McCarthy" is the #3 story on Politico while this poo poo is blowing up.
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evilweasel posted:http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/10/08/446889538/mccarthy-drops-out-of-speaker-race-throwing-gop-leadership-into-chaos God help me, I love this. I love it so.
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Oct 8, 2015 18:37
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If we're stooping to people not actually in Congress I'll throw Eric Cantor's name into the ring.
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evilweasel posted:http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/10/08/446889538/mccarthy-drops-out-of-speaker-race-throwing-gop-leadership-into-chaos gently caress you beat me to it - where did we get this crop of politicians who loving cry. THERE'S NO CRYING IN INSIDE BASEBALL
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No Exit II: Hell is Other Republicans
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evilweasel posted:http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/10/08/446889538/mccarthy-drops-out-of-speaker-race-throwing-gop-leadership-into-chaos Was John? This is important.
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Oct 8, 2015 18:40
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evilweasel posted:No, the mainstream GOP is pretty into the idea of shredding the Federal Government and they're much more in line with the Tea Party than the Democrats. They're just aware shutdowns don't get them where they want to be, and that default is a problem even for them. If they thought shutdowns would work, they'd be all for them. It's just they recognize they don't, not a moral aversion to shutdowns. I have to disagree, for the most part the mainstream GOP talks about shredding the federal government only as a way to sell their pro-business agenda. The tea party morons are actually motivated by that idea.
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QuoProQuid posted:Boehner is trapped in hell. The pope works fast.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Was John? This is important. I think he visibly cries more than audibly cries. Tears but no actual sobbing.
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Jarmak posted:I have to disagree, for the most part the mainstream GOP talks about shredding the federal government only as a way to sell their pro-business agenda. The tea party morons are actually motivated by that idea. And defunding government organizations that monitor business is not beneficial to people who are stakeholders with said businesses?
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Oct 8, 2015 18:42
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Just saw the news. Oh man this is so so bad. Boehner and McCarthy were both bad news but whoever emerges to fill that gap is going to be so much worse.
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Oct 8, 2015 18:42
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Calling it now, they're going to all beg, absolutely beg Paul Ryan to run even though he's said he won't. He's the only one who could get those votes.
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Oct 8, 2015 18:43
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pathetic little tramp posted:
Next thread title please.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Calling it now, they're going to all beg, absolutely beg Paul Ryan to run even though he's said he won't. He's the only one who could get those votes. He has already refused: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul-ryan-mccarthy-out-speaker quote:"Kevin McCarthy is the best person to lead the House, and so I'm disappointed in this decision. Now it is important that we, as a Conference, take time to deliberate and seek new candidates for the speakership," he said in a statement. "While I am grateful for the encouragement I've received, I will not be a candidate. I continue to believe I can best serve the country and this conference as Chairman of the Ways and Means Committee." Which makes sense as he doesn't want to deal with that poo poo and he probably still wants to be President and there's no way this would help.
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Oct 8, 2015 18:44
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This is the weirdest Lovecraft short story I've ever read.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Calling it now, they're going to all beg, absolutely beg Paul Ryan to run even though he's said he won't. He's the only one who could get those votes. Paul Ryan wants to be President, not chained to this pile of poo poo problem.
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Oct 8, 2015 18:45
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evilweasel posted:He has already refused: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul-ryan-mccarthy-out-speaker But he's the only one left on this book cover of the next crop of up and coming republicans:  He's not satisfying the tontine, that sonuvabitch. (Seriously though drat that was a quick refusal)
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Oct 8, 2015 18:46
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I want Boehner to be conducting this meeting in a straw hat, hawaiian shirt with a couple plane tickets marked Oct. 31 in the pocket. Then he hears the news, the ciggy drops out of his mouth and he mutters "oh, gently caress".
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pathetic little tramp posted:But he's the only one left on this book cover of the next crop of up and coming republicans: I will never get over the fact that a guy with gray hair was called a "young gun".
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Oct 8, 2015 18:48
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So Boehner can just do away with the pretense of the Hastert rule now, right? Just start laying all the straight bills on the line now that there is clearly no majority of the majority to be had? Come on, John.
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Oct 8, 2015 18:48
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Speaker of the House Louie Gohmert is all I want for Christmas this year.
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Fix posted:So Boehner can just do away with the pretense of the Hastert rule now, right? Just start laying all the straight bills on the line now that there is clearly no majority of the majority to be had?
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Oct 8, 2015 18:49
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Boehner has announced he is going to stay until a new speaker is elected. So January 2017 is his new retirement date?
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Oct 8, 2015 18:49
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This was a really great read, thanks for providing the link.
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smg77 posted:Speaker of the House Louie Gohmert is all I want for Christmas this year. That would be loving awful for America, Jesus dude.
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Oct 8, 2015 18:50
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Man this was REALLY bad timing for Clinton to announce her financial reform plan. No one will pay attention to it. https://www.hillaryclinton.com/p/briefing/factsheets/2015/10/08/wall-street-work-for-main-street/
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Oct 8, 2015 18:51
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evilweasel posted:a majority of the majority demands...a unicorn I'm not talking about agreeing on lunch.
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Bob Ojeda posted:That would be loving awful for America, Jesus dude. Spoiler: there isn't a good choice for America.
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Oct 8, 2015 18:51
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They should just draft Paul Ryan. You can vote for whoever the gently caress you want you don't need their permission. He wants to spend time with his family? Boohoo so do millions of people working the minimum wage. You take this lovely job Paul Ryan.
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Oct 8, 2015 18:51
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What's the word for the feeling that's the same as the guy who was hootin and hollerin on the bomb as it was dropped in Dr Strangelove?
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zoux posted:What's the word for the feeling that's the same as the guy who was hootin and hollerin on the bomb as it was dropped in Dr Strangelove? 'yeeaaahhhoooooooooo'
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Can an inanimate object be elected to speaker? I bet an AR-15 could get 218 votes...
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