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I dunno, I spent about 1.5k replacing half a dozen hundred year old double hung windows, and that was just for cheap(er) windows and vinyl trim. Seeing how it's all put together, I can see how poo poo would get expensive fast, especially as there's probably no standard measurements, so you've gotta reframe or custom build stuff. Though after seeing the horrible things water and carpenter ants will do if your sill wasn't installed properly (aka a painted piece of lumber that slopes back towards the house), I'd be putting in modern vinyl windows on the sly anyways. Wood as a trim material is a terrible idea, as far as I'm concerned. 
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But the historic value! *pops an aneurysm trying to screech a stuck window open*
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Nowadays cellular pvc comes in sheets and boards, while you can also buy all sorts of vinyl trim. Sills and other pieces could be made out of material that doesn't give a gently caress about water. And the modern wood windows are remarkably resistant to moisture and penetration, which is part of the reason why they cost so much. Also, I think it's best to point out, that most people buy ~$200 3x4' window at Home Depot and think that's what windows cost. In reality, anything outside standard box size, goes up in price dramatically. Non-vinyl materials increase that price as well. And bay and round top windows are in the league of their own. I've worked on a job site, where we installed 2 windows to the tune of 30k. It took 8 people and a small crane. And then some guy traveled from 2 states away to wrap it in copper
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Laminator posted:But the historic value! In that vein my aunt and uncle have a beautiful old Victorian home in an historic district. They built an addition to the house and used concrete shingle siding on the addition for its durability and cost savings over wood shingles. So they want to re-do the entire house using the concrete shingles, except the historical society will absolutely not budge on letting them even after a demonstration in which the historical society members all agreed that there is no way to tell the difference between the two. The head of the committee even went so far as to tell them "well if you can't afford wood shingles maybe you shouldn't have bought a house in the historic district!" So the front of their house is unpainted and looks more and more dilapidated every year as my uncles' personal form of protest against the whole bullshit situation, which I'm sure really drives up the housing market in the area.
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Not exactly crappy construction. My mom is having a fake stone wall and the crappy wood burning fireplace taken out and replaced with much nicer stuff. Not to mention legal, after we got the house my dad and grandpa closed off the chimney, and sawed it off internally. Then when the roof was redone some years after that he had the external bits removed too. So the fireplace just continued to sit there for 20 years in this state, maybe this is a crappy construction story after all... But anyway, all the old poo poo has been demoed out now. We found this in the wall:  For a can from 1978 it's in great condition, even cleaner than it looks.
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Casimir Radon posted:But anyway, all the old poo poo has been demoed out now. We found this in the wall: But how did it taste?
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Worth something to someone, you could probably flog it.
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Probably more than one person on youtube willing to drink it.
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It's actaully empty. There were a bunch of crushed ones back there too.
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New and exciting Chinese building material failure: extraordinarily flammable aluminum cladding.    http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1801571 quote:CSIRO scientists in Australia tested this building material. And the cheaply imported aluminium cladding from Melbourne’s fire-damaged Lacrosse tower was so flammable they had to abandon combustibility tests after only 93 seconds to avoid damaging their equipment Thankfully the class of materials has been largely banned for use in >3 story buildings in the US for quite some time.
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The building made from aluminum that had already caught on fire caught on fire again? Wow, who could have predicted that!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3Y3Rw773Ok
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packetmantis posted:The building made from aluminum that had already caught on fire caught on fire again? Wow, who could have predicted that! The issue isn't aluminum (which can technically burn in regular air but isn't exactly easy to get started unless you maximize its surface area:volume ratio), but that the aluminum cladding panels are two sheets of aluminum sandwiching a flammable plastic core. That's what's burning, the aluminum is just really hot falling debris. Phanatic fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Oct 8, 2015 |
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Calling bullshit on this Blade Runner screencap.
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Phanatic posted:The issue isn't aluminum (which can technically burn in regular air but isn't exactly easy to get started unless you maximize its surface area:volume ratio), but that the aluminum cladding panels are two sheets of aluminum sandwiching a flammable plastic core. That's what's burning, the aluminum is just really hot falling debris. So Aluminum and a polymer binder? Sounds like rocket fuel!
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TasogareNoKagi posted:So Aluminum and a polymer binder? Sounds like rocket fuel! Don't give them any ideas. Soon we'll get nu-luminum lightweight panels, made like those polymer + sawdust plasticwood products, just with polymer & powdered aluminum. 
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Boat posted:Don't give them any ideas. Soon we'll get nu-luminum lightweight panels, made like those polymer + sawdust plasticwood products, just with polymer & powdered aluminum. Better add some iron oxide for coloring.
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Boat posted:Don't give them any ideas. Soon we'll get nu-luminum lightweight panels, made like those polymer + sawdust plasticwood products, just with polymer & powdered aluminum. Could we add some titanium and/or magnesium as well?
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Better add some iron oxide for coloring. This guy knows what's up.
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CopperHound posted:This guy knows what's up. you should put a road flare on the top like a birthday candle! and maybe 400 or so pounds of concrete.
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My buddy messaged me the other day about a house he was renovating after a fire damaged part of it. They were pulling out parts of the ceiling in a room and were greeted with a rain of dildos falling out. I'm assuming they were under a bedroom and that there weren't just a dozen dildos stashed away between floors.
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killhamster posted:My buddy messaged me the other day about a house he was renovating after a fire damaged part of it. They were pulling out parts of the ceiling in a room and were greeted with a rain of dildos falling out. I'm assuming they were under a bedroom and that there weren't just a dozen dildos stashed away between floors. You know what happens when you assume, friend. I think ceiling fan dildos are more likely, honestly.
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NancyPants posted:You know what happens when you assume, friend. Those free range dildos are the worst.
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killhamster posted:My buddy messaged me the other day about a house he was renovating after a fire damaged part of it. They were pulling out parts of the ceiling in a room and were greeted with a rain of dildos falling out. I'm assuming they were under a bedroom and that there weren't just a dozen dildos stashed away between floors.  Once they compromise the structural integrity like that, you're hosed.
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oldskool posted:
I'm visualizing earthquake-absorbent footers made entirely of old dildos... 
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oldskool posted:
Huge black carpenter dildos will chew through wood like a plague...
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Pigsfeet on Rye posted:Huge black carpenter dildos will chew through wood like a plague... They're attracted to all the knots in the wood
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killhamster posted:My buddy messaged me the other day about a house he was renovating after a fire damaged part of it. They were pulling out parts of the ceiling in a room and were greeted with a rain of dildos falling out. I'm assuming they were under a bedroom and that there weren't just a dozen dildos stashed away between floors. It's raining members! 
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I recently became the Tenant of a 8400Sq. Ft. office building that served as the Headquarters of a Local NE Ohio Newspaper from the late 1870's to September of 2012. The oldest part of the building was built in 1858, by a Farrier that leased horses and wagons to the federal government for the Cleveland-Ravenna and Mentor-Ravenna mail routes. It did a short stint as a mortuary/funeral parlor in the early 1870's. The Ravenna Republican newspaper moved in the the late 1870's. Already I've found Stab-Lok subpanels everywhere, a mystery light switch in the basement that cuts the lights in the break room upstairs, A secret Trap Door in the floor of one of the offices, Staircases to nowhere, twistlok 240V outlets on the second floor for an NCR Mainframe Computer + "Hard Disk Unit," two big rear end Anemostats in the first floor ceiling that blow no air, and a creepy rear end boiler room that flooded last year. (the boiler was above the water line, thank god)    I'll keep the thread updated as I uncover the crazy that lies within these walls. Or, would it be better if I started a dedicated thread? MullardEL34 fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Oct 11, 2015 |
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Well you are in Alliance/Ravenna or whatever shithole town that building is in , based on the 44 sign I assume its not Kent  But I'm not far away from where that is probably, so I guess I can't complain.
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Sylink posted:Well you are in Alliance/Ravenna or whatever shithole town that building is in , based on the 44 sign I assume its not Kent Ravenna. We're trying to make things better. The town has good bones but far too many problem people renting downtown and idiots in city government. Your city's best downtown rental properties probably shouldn't be rented to habitual drug offenders with no incentive to get treatment/help, even though there is a city statute prohibiting such behavior and supposedly offering free treatment/rehab. Our roof was covered with spent Tracfones and broken crack pipes from the apartment buildings/literal bed-in-a-room flop houses on either side when we moved in. This is going to change mighty quick. I guess you could call it rust belt gentrification. We're turning this place into a Recording Studio, Coffee Shop/Bookstore, incubator office space, and an apartment for my business partner, his Fiance, and our other Partner on the second floor. MullardEL34 fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Oct 11, 2015 |
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Good luck; I hope the financials work out.
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One good thing about the building. It came with a dog!
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LeJackal posted:One good thing about the building. It came with a dog! loving owns.
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Since this is the de facto concrete thread, I'm just gonna cross-post this here since it didn't get covered in the fix it fast thread:Bad Munki posted:I recently pressure washed my porch, steps, and driveway. It's concrete. Do I need to do any followup? Reapply some sort of sealant or something? Winter's coming, I don't want my driveway to explode or burn down or whatever happens if I don't do what I'm supposed to.
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MullardEL34 posted:Ravenna. We're trying to make things better. The town has good bones but far too many problem people renting downtown and idiots in city government. Your city's best downtown rental properties probably shouldn't be rented to habitual drug offenders with no incentive to get treatment/help, even though there is a city statute prohibiting such behavior and supposedly offering free treatment/rehab. NE Ohio loves having drug dens right next to its court house districts - see Canton.
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Owns owns owns owns MullardEL34 posted:I'll keep the thread updated as I uncover the crazy that lies within these walls. You're totally welcome to post in here of course but I would certainly subscribe if you started a dedicated thread. Not just for old building fuckery but also whatever work you do there, and maybe show that old computer stuff too because it's cool as heck.
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