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Oct 8, 2015 12:06
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I have to admit that my lovely layout that is all rep gear/non fleet bought junk can still get 3rd place/2nd place in most stfs it is kinda amazing how bad the pubs are at building poo poo.
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Oct 8, 2015 12:09
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Soviet Commubot posted:That depends on what you mean by necessary. A halfway decent T5U ship, properly equipped, will still out-DPS most pubbies using T6 ships. T6 or a top-end T5U with decent ship traits is probably necessary for elite space queues but for normal and advanced you can do just fine with almost any T5U. My tac guy out-DPSs most pubbies in a garbage T5U D'Kyr. It's not the ships in and of themselves, it's the traits. With the goon population in STO being what it is right now, anybody who joins up is going to need to pug if they want to actually get their rep poo poo done in a reasonable timeframe. And if you're pugging, your carrying the team, because this is STO. Which means you'll need all the serious game-changer ship traits to get anywhere. You don't need epic MK XIV AP beams to be effective, but you sure as hell need reciprocity, pedal to the metal, all that good poo poo. And since most of that is locked behind a 30 dollar paywall and grinding out the exp on what is likely a bad ship, it's kind of a sucky system.
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Oct 8, 2015 12:29
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Psycho Landlord posted:It's not the ships in and of themselves, it's the traits. With the goon population in STO being what it is right now, anybody who joins up is going to need to pug if they want to actually get their rep poo poo done in a reasonable timeframe. And if you're pugging, your carrying the team, because this is STO. Which means you'll need all the serious game-changer ship traits to get anywhere. You don't need epic MK XIV AP beams to be effective, but you sure as hell need reciprocity, pedal to the metal, all that good poo poo. And since most of that is locked behind a 30 dollar paywall and grinding out the exp on what is likely a bad ship, it's kind of a sucky system. Yeah, I am definitely not that invested in doing that, though I have a few thousand zen kicking around from playing the dil market that I could pick something up. As an eng captain with none of the new Intel or Command or Pilot officers, however, meh. The only T6 ship I have is the veteran one, the Chimera derivative? That, an old bugship, and my Excelsior Cstore edition are the ships I play most. It's been a little over a month since I started playing again, and I'm almost up to tier 5 in every rep except Iconian. The rest are easy to get.
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Oct 8, 2015 12:50
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Sneaky Kettle posted:
I thought Iconian requires the same amount of rep to reach T5? 100k?
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Oct 8, 2015 13:07
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Tai posted:I thought Iconian requires the same amount of rep to reach T5? 100k? Same amount of rep, but gently caress getting the marks. Sneaky Kettle, you know that the last two missions on the Kobali Adventure Zone let you pick Iconian Rep? Only 5 points, but if you're just wanting the daily bonus, there's usually a bunch of people doing the second-last one (At the Gates/Breaking the Wall) for that very reason. And it daily gets you a Datacore too. It's much less painful to do that once a day than actually try and pug the loving STFs. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Oct 8, 2015 |
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Oct 8, 2015 13:29
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Psycho Landlord posted:It's not the ships in and of themselves, it's the traits. With the goon population in STO being what it is right now, anybody who joins up is going to need to pug if they want to actually get their rep poo poo done in a reasonable timeframe. And if you're pugging, your carrying the team, because this is STO. Which means you'll need all the serious game-changer ship traits to get anywhere. You don't need epic MK XIV AP beams to be effective, but you sure as hell need reciprocity, pedal to the metal, all that good poo poo. And since most of that is locked behind a 30 dollar paywall and grinding out the exp on what is likely a bad ship, it's kind of a sucky system. I don't know, the only good starship trait I have is Pedal to the Metal and I do well enough for pug purposes. I haven't spent a dime since Delta Rising came out.
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Oct 8, 2015 13:32
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Yikes. We have conspiracy theories, Dental hate, and pubbie stupidity all in a few tight lines of text. Gooark can't seem to let anything go, is this all he talks about on zone? I've never seen him NOT talk about Dental.
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Oct 8, 2015 15:04
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Giveaways are real, I was there. The pwe and cryptic visits were real, I was there. THE GAME IS REAL, I AM THERE.
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Oct 8, 2015 16:23
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DancingShade posted:Hestia Class Advanced Escort [T6]: Upgraded this starship's Ensign Tactical seat to Ensign Universal. I saw one yesterday in an ISA. I out Deepsed it with my T5u Nova.
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Oct 8, 2015 16:50
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Soviet Commubot posted:That depends on what you mean by necessary. A halfway decent T5U ship, properly equipped, will still out-DPS most pubbies using T6 ships. T6 or a top-end T5U with decent ship traits is probably necessary for elite space queues but for normal and advanced you can do just fine with almost any T5U. My tac guy out-DPSs most pubbies in a garbage T5U D'Kyr.
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Oct 8, 2015 17:22
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According to the sto forum cryptic did a screw up and priced the new t6 romulan dread at 0 zen, free. Get one before they fix it if you want one.
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Oct 8, 2015 19:00
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In-game now, gone already :-/
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Oct 8, 2015 19:09
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Asimo posted:The trick is that, yes, a T5U ship can be just fine if you already have one. But it's insane to actually buy a T5 ship now if you're just starting out, since it lacks a trait to give you and will invariably be replaced by a superior T6 variant somewhere down the line, at which point you'll never touch the T5 ship again. Well yeah, if you're starting out right now you should just go right to T6 I'm just saying if you've got T5 ships from the before times you can get by with them just fine with an upgrade token from the exchange without having to actually spend real money.
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Oct 8, 2015 19:14
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hakimashou posted:According to the sto forum cryptic did a screw up and priced the new t6 romulan dread at 0 zen, free. You lied to me which means you owe me a free ship.
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Oct 8, 2015 19:21
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Morglon posted:Acceptable DPS two years ago is very low compared to acceptable DPS these days. Hate to break it to you but you're doing gently caress all damage now, especially if you're still using old builds and cannons. Also I'm stunned anybody actually likes the story content, I mean it's stuff to do and it sort of guides you but the story is so loving bad it's not even funny. I actually liked the story content. It wasn't great, but neither was STO. It was sort of like playing a mediocre star trek rpg which there really isn't anything like that. Delta Rising kind of killed that though since you arbitrarily had to grind just to get to the next ten minute long mission. Even some of the DR stuff was neat, but I have no idea how the quality kept up after the Iconians showed up and stuff since I stopped playing by then.
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Oct 8, 2015 19:59
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hakimashou posted:According to the sto forum cryptic did a screw up and priced the new t6 romulan dread at 0 zen, free. It was for sale from the ship vendor for 0 EC. Someone probably selected the wrong currency for it.
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Oct 8, 2015 20:07
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Wait is it already fixed?
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Oct 8, 2015 20:26
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MikeJF posted:Same amount of rep, but gently caress getting the marks. I did not know that, and that is exactly the kind of pro-click insider trading poo poo I was looking for. Thanks, buddy. 
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Oct 9, 2015 03:07
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Sneaky Kettle posted:I did not know that, and that is exactly the kind of pro-click insider trading poo poo I was looking for. Thanks, buddy. It also let's you choose Delta marks and will give a ancient core. So you can choose iconian marks for the first mission and delta on the second and get your dailies for both done in a shirt period of time.
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Oct 9, 2015 04:39
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 they made this freakish person an sto forum mod
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Oct 9, 2015 05:09
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hakimashou posted:
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Oct 9, 2015 05:24
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hakimashou posted:According to the sto forum cryptic did a screw up and priced the new t6 romulan dread at 0 zen, free. I still don't want it even if it's free 
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Oct 9, 2015 05:56
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hakimashou posted:
Oh man I remember this guy. He won some doff contest with his dumb Mary Sue doff that was his forum signature for quite a while before the contest and he used to get mad at the fact that you can't ignore space combat in favor of just pure ground combat all the time.
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Oct 9, 2015 06:14
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Soviet Commubot posted:he used to get mad at the fact that you can't ignore space combat in favor of just pure ground combat all the time. No wonder Cryptic picked him, they totally agree.
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Oct 9, 2015 06:17
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Soviet Commubot posted:Oh man I remember this guy. He won some doff contest with his dumb Mary Sue doff that was his forum signature for quite a while before the contest and he used to get mad at the fact that you can't ignore space combat in favor of just pure ground combat all the time. yup but the real winner of the doffing contest was this  and the real prize was a cell ship, which was 80m at the time and is now like 300m!
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Oct 9, 2015 06:19
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hakimashou posted:
As Jan [female toon... no im serious!] is a friend of mine, This simply means that it's one less person we have to buy off with candy. Still only 4 to go...
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Oct 9, 2015 14:37
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In other news I've been trying out the new borg cube on the admin server and it's pretty drat good, could use a bit more work on the hud though: e: poo poo, wrong board.
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Oct 9, 2015 15:47
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Well, cat's out of the bag now. I'm fuckin ashamed of you though, you get a Borg Cube and you didn't even name it with some geometry puns? You're terrible.
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Oct 9, 2015 18:36
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I was thinking my Dental provided Cube was going to be called the U.S.S. Platonicsolid
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Oct 9, 2015 18:50
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 I kind of like that, other then the lower nacelle's position.
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Oct 9, 2015 19:58
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Tuskin38 posted:
Looks like a mash up of a Nebula and star cruiser, but it isn't bad looking really, minus the lower nacelles being weird.
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Oct 9, 2015 20:53
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Technical Analysis posted:Well, cat's out of the bag now. I'm fuckin ashamed of you though, you get a Borg Cube and you didn't even name it with some geometry puns? You're terrible. Lucubus of Borg.
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Oct 9, 2015 21:12
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Aleth posted:In other news I've been trying out the new borg cube on the admin server and it's pretty drat good, could use a bit more work on the hud though: I like how every weapon I equip gets a 360° firing arc. Thanks for pulling through on this one, devs. e: oops Mogomra fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Oct 9, 2015 |
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Oct 9, 2015 21:22
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 It's almost worth reinstalling now, If I still had my sacrificial computer to play it on (I'm not going to put it on a "valuable" computer).
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Oct 9, 2015 21:49
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Mogomra posted:I like how every weapon I equip gets a 360° firing arc. Thanks for pulling through on this one, devs. On the other hand, having all universal BOFF stations open up so much potential.
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Oct 9, 2015 21:53
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Morglon posted:Lucubus of Borg. Loquacious of Bore!  I guess it's not a cube pun. But it is a pun. And borg related.
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Oct 9, 2015 22:12
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g0del posted:Yeah, it's really too bad that DHCs still suck, even at 360°. Personally, I like how it can assimilate other players in PvP and npc ships in PvE.
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Oct 9, 2015 22:13
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AotC posted:Personally, I like how it can assimilate other players in PvP and npc ships in PvE. I thought it also assimilated players in PvE for a team buff
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Oct 9, 2015 22:40
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DonDoodles posted:I thought it also assimilated players in PvE for a team buff Yeah but most pubbies aren't worth it to assimilate. I'd rather get the gate in infected conduit.
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Oct 9, 2015 22:44
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